On Kashmir

4th time.

I have not ignored any of your question deliberately or on purpose. Please re post the question and I will answer it.

Your Akhlaaq are a reflection of your depth in Islamic knowledge and your personality and your training so I will leave the matter between you and Allah Ta'ala to defend.

"Napotism": No idea what this word means and I genuinely do not know where you have asked a question about this in this thread but I apologies and point it out.

So you are referring to questions which are outside this thread and have absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand. Accusing me of not answering when it has nothing to do with the present discussion.

All your questions about this thread have been answered.

I will get to your irrelevant questions when I have time, it has NOTHING to do with this discussion.

Next time, write in a manner which is clear and precise for everyone to understand, try to avoid:

• Sarcasm
  
• Emotional Outbursts
• Emojis
• Rants and moans

And focus on the discussions or you can hang around with 5 years old and use plenty of emojis

You could have said

"I have asked you about nepotism at other times which you have not responded to, instead of going on and on about me not answering in the context of the present conversation."

I understand that your Nafs will not let you see your error.

5th time

W-H-I-C-H question of yours in T-H-I-S thread about Kashmir has N-O-T been answered?

Your Napotism question as you have indicated is O-L-D and nothing to do with this thread.

You keep disagreeing but you will not come clean as to which question relevant to this discussion has N-O-T been answered.

Question: show me one example where Prophet Muhammad SAWS instructed his Sahaba RA while in Makkah to gain worldly skills which will later on help build khiafah in Madina. In Makkah what was his main focus?

First Response

Posted on 4th September 2019 05:10

www.muftisays.com/forums/14-peoples-say/10194-on-kashmir....

Response dumbed down for you to understand

You are making several severe errors of judgement in multiple way and it is not surprising you are neither aware of Arabic, now much knowledgeable about the Qur'aan and Sunnah.

Error 1: Future

You are assuming that Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam)KNEW what will happen in the future and KNEW that he will be migrating toMadina and STILL chose not to prepare.

Only Allah Ta'ala knew the future

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Error 2: Revelation vs Desires

You are assuming that Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) was a worldly leader (like Mao etc), but he was a Nabi who relied on revelation.

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When Hijrah became a commandment then Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) made the following worldly efforts B-E-F-O-R-E going to Madina Munawwara under the guidance of Allah Ta'ala (as directed).

• First Hijrah happened to Abyssinia
• 1st Bay't at Aqabah

• Dispatching of Mus'ab ibn 'Umair (RA)
• 2nd Ba'yt at Aqabah
• Migration of some companions to Yathirb
• Migration of Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) to Madina
  

There is a difference of opinion on the order of these events but this is by and large sufficient to make my point.

Do 1-6 sound like spiritual matters to you? These are all preparations to E-S-T-A-B-L-I-S-H Islamic state.

P.S: If there is anyone else who does not know Islamic history and does not realize what happened B-E-F-O-R-E Madina Munawwara, I will be happy to actually quote the Abyssinian migration, the two pledges etc in detail.

Does anyone here of the same opinion that Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) sat around in Makkah and did SPIRITUAL REFORMATION O-N-L-Y?

P.S: If you are looking for power point presentations and 5 point plans (Mao style) OR whoever you follow as a guide then I don't have any. My G-U-I-D-E Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) N-E-V-E-R concentrated on spiritual reformation alone (in Makkah or Madina).

Whatever your personal hatred is towards me, DO NOT take it out on Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam), it is not preferred or valid to use SAW

Learn B-A-S-I-C-S of Islam first, before you start throwing Muslims out of their Deen and making Takfeer.

1. You do not know basics of Arabic
2. You do not know the basics on how to address Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam)
3. You do not understand that Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) A-C-T-E-D as Allah Ta'ala commanded him!
   

You claimed that he did N-O-T-H-I-N-G in Makkah except spiritual reformation and I have said:

1. First Hijrah happened to Abyssinia
2. 1st Bay't at Aqabah
3. Dispatching of Mus'ab ibn 'Umair (RA)
4. 2nd Ba'yt at Aqabah
5. Migration of some companions to Yathirb
6. Migration of Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) to Madina

These are N-O-T actions of spiritual reformation! Your Nafs is so bloated with insinuations from Shaytaan that instead of admitting that these are actions and all occurred in Makkah you changed tracks and are now classifying them as "Hijrah" and proposing that I am advocating Hijrah.

I am merely stating that these are A-C-T-I-O-N-S during Makkah and they are N-O-T- spiritual but physical! I don't care if they are for preparation of Hijrah or Jihad or Khilafah, they are N-O-T- spiritual but physical!

Lets see what the Shaytaan blows into you to misguide you and to satisfy your bloated, inflated ego.

Remember that you are denying the actions of Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam)in your pure hatred and rage for me! Allah Ta'ala will deal with you.

Sipraomer's Assertion:

It is your right to disagree. However, I strongly believe that once the spiritual problem is solved, other problems will be sorted out automatically. (Not saying that we will not have to work for it but am saying that we will need less effort due to state resources at our disposal and barakah due to our amaal). So maximum effort must be exerted on the ideological and spiritual side of things.

Let me give an example from our recent past.

Without having authority over state did Mao focus on the ideology of his party or did he focus on producing scientists. Yes he trained guerrillas. He was a guerrilla himself. However, did he focus on scientific inventions before he attained power.

And what course did Lenin take? Didn't he focus on the ideology of his party first and after coming to power focused on Industrializing Soviet Union?

You may say that we don't need to follow Mao and Lenin?

Fine!

In Makkah! Did Prophet Muhammad SAWS focus on learning military skills and technology or did he focus on formation and tazkiyah of his jamaat? Did he not instruct his companions to adopt military strategy after khilafah was established in Madina?

Response:

I can challenge his nonfactual knowledge on Mao and Lenin but those are his leaders and he can love them. My leader and example is Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) so I will address the part which is relevant to me.

Formation = Formation

Tazkiyah = Reformation (Islah)

Who apart from one who cannot escape the clutches of an ego inflated Nafs, thinks that these are spiritual steps? OR that they did not happen in Makkah?

1. First Hijrah happened to Abyssinia
2. 1st Bay't at Aqabah
3. Dispatching of Mus'ab ibn 'Umair (RA)
4. 2nd Ba'yt at Aqabah
5. Migration of some companions to Yathirb
6. Migration of Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) to Madina