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#1036 [Permalink] Posted on 28th November 2021 07:41
Dr Muhammed Umar Gautam


Dr Muhammed Umar Gautam's daughter says that after her father's arrest they have become very lonely.
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#1037 [Permalink] Posted on 28th November 2021 08:00
Why was partition such a disaster for Indian Muslims?


Muslim League, under Muhammed Ali Jinnah, wanted assurance that Muslims would not become subservient to Hindus in independent India.

The Indian National Congress rejected all League proposals to prevent this possibility of Muslims becoming subservient to Hindus.

The League was established in 1906 in Dhaka.

Till 1940, that is for 34 years, they kept struggling for safety of Muslims in independent India.

In 1940 the League introduced the Pakistan resolution.

India was divided.

This did not solve the problems of Muslims.

The Hindus, not merely the Saffronite, have been punishing Muslims for partition.

Partition did not help Indian Muslims because both the Lib-Dems and the Saffronite kept punishing Muslims of divided India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Clearly even before partition Muslims lost the grip over their future.

When?

At the time of partition the Hindu-Muslim population ration of undivided India was 25:9.

At the present moment that ration is about : 110:60

This is a vast improvement over the 1947 case.

Yet the advantage to the Saffronite is vastly improved in their favour due to Saffronite unity.

In other words, in spite of the partition, the situation of Muslims has become worse.

So when did Muslims' grip slip?

MK Gandhi's arrival in 1914 in India from South Africa changed the dynamics. (In my earlier posts I might have given the wrong date.)

By 1919 MK Gandhi managed to push Muhammed Ali Jinnah out of both the Congress and the Hind Swaraj League.

And though the Saffronites murdered MK Gandhi in 1948 for being Muslim friendly but the fact remains that Gandhi's actions are responsible for the sorry state that Muslims find themselves in.
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#1038 [Permalink] Posted on 28th November 2021 08:25
Maulana and Maulana


I feel that slowly Indian Muslims are sorting out their political confusions.

Sadly Maulana Arshad Madani says, in a video that I am finding difficult to share, that we shall not vote for any candidate for whom Hindus do not vote.

Maulana Salman Husaini Nadvi, on the other hand, admits that if there is no other leader than we have to accept Owaisi as the leader.
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#1039 [Permalink] Posted on 28th November 2021 11:30
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Don't you think Owaisi will split Muslim votes in UP which will lead to muslim destruction as it will lead way to bjp again?

Muslims should be united and their sole aim should be to not bring bjp again. May Allah guide and protect the Muslims all over the world. The rope is tightening for Muslims.
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#1040 [Permalink] Posted on 28th November 2021 12:38
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Sister we are living in fear of BJP.
We have get over this fear.
Even if Muslim votes were not split BJP came to power.
BJP still may come to power if we vote for Asaduddin Owaisi.
That way we will have Owaisi in parliament with more strength.
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#1041 [Permalink] Posted on 28th November 2021 13:19
***Muslim Reaction to Asaduddin Owaisi***


A leader who goes AWOL during such a seminal moment as anti CAA protests, who threw Sharjeel Imam under the bus,who has whitewashed the crimes of Indian state in Kashmir valley has no moral/legal authority to be called the leader of Muslims. Muslims must be very cautious in accepting him.

***Hindu Reaction to Asaduddin Owaisi***

He is a normal politician. Speaks very nice English and Urdu, can do drama in the Parliament, and is a multi-millionaire...there is nothing to suggest only a Muslim can be a leader of Muslims...time to think out of the box.
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#1042 [Permalink] Posted on 28th November 2021 13:53
The Zakia Jafri case in Supreme Court of India.
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#1043 [Permalink] Posted on 28th November 2021 14:37
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We are too politically fractured to be able to vote tactically on a large scale to defeat the BJP.

The idea of voting is to have our representative in the corridors of power, someone who will raise our issues to the people in charge. This person should be someone who has a proven track record of positive work in the community.

Our local constituency is a very peculiar case. We have a long time RSS man as our representative. He has had relations with Muslims in the constituency for a long time, and he has a track record of getting work done. He is not averse to taking up development work in Muslim areas and he has (obviously) never been vitriolic in his public addresses.

He gets the Muslim vote not because of his party affiliation, but because of the work he has done in the constituency.

Fellow Muslims from other constituencies balk at our voting preferences, but such is life.
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#1044 [Permalink] Posted on 28th November 2021 15:43
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Bismillah
Well I heard the Muslims vote will be determining factor this time to choose the ruling party in UP as many hindu votes will get split because of oppression of farmers that includes UP farmers, pathetic dealing with covid situation etc. For all the atrocities that is being carried by yogi who is no less than Pharoah, I can't imagine the fate of Muslims if he comes again. The atrocities will be unimaginable.

How do you think Owaisi can help? Alhamdulillah he speaks our heart out but how can just one man help this community? And how will he bring change to the fate of the Muslims? I don't know but very much worried about Muslim in North India.

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#1045 [Permalink] Posted on 28th November 2021 16:24
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There are two main issues in your post.

Muslim votes will be deciding whether BJP comes back or not.

What can Owaisi do?

Let me take these one at a time.

Please understand that none of the factors that people are counting against Modi will go against him.
A number of Hindus have become his blind followers, Bhakts, and they will remain so even if he commits a murder.
Hence let us not be under any illusion that he will come back.

He is coming back.

Let us accept the reality.

Coming to the second question - what can Owaisi do?

Whatever he does will be more than what Congress has been doing for Muslims, whatever Samajwadi Party has been doing for Muslims and whatever BSP has done for Muslims.

The power of Muslim masses will for the first time be with a Muslim. Forget about the Saffronite - even the so called secular Hindus do not want that.

In view of this my view is that we Muslims should get over the fear of Saffronite and vote for our own parties.
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#1046 [Permalink] Posted on 28th November 2021 16:58
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Good to see that in the angle which I never saw. Instead of relying on non-Muslim parties to resist the saffronites, your point is to strengthen us by choosing someone within us. If that's the case, won't all the parties stand against us or won't help our progress unless we ally with them and as a minority we will be left alone without any support?

Also how can one underestimate the factor of farmers when Modi had to take back his steps?
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#1047 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2021 03:27
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The non BJP parties will all vie for Muslim votes, no matter what. They do not have the ideological support base to cause all Hindus to unite and vote for them. No party can match the BJP at consolidating the Hindu vote. We do not need to worry about Hindu votes consolidating under any other party than the BJP.

Muslims voting for AIMIM will force the other non BJP parties to up their game at courting Muslims.
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#1048 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2021 17:19
Respected Indian brothers and sisters, how accurate is this news from India?

NO VAX, NO FOOD/FUEL IN INDIA - FOOD WITHHELD TO FORCE VACCINATIONS
www.bitchute.com/video/tNVbu7zEXlfb/
The video is new but the news is from 10th November 2021
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#1049 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2021 03:06
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The district collector of Aurangabad district (the equivalent of a county in the US) has given orders to local shops and businesses to only sell to people who show documentary proof of having received at least one shot of the COVID19 vaccine. If the order is violated, the shop owners will be punished under the National Disaster Management Act and Epidemic Diseases Act.

People have already found workarounds to this arm-twisting. Vaccination certificates are easily available for between $2 to $10.
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#1050 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2021 13:13
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Bismillah
Good to see that in the angle which I never saw. Instead of relying on non-Muslim parties to resist the saffronites, your point is to strengthen us by choosing someone within us. If that's the case, won't all the parties stand against us or won't help our progress unless we ally with them and as a minority we will be left alone without any support?

Practically all parties are standing against us but we are not sure about it.

By telling the majority community that now onwards our votes are at the disposal of Muslim political parties we shall be reducing their power over us.
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Also how can one underestimate the factor of farmers when Modi had to take back his steps?

In past we have been behaving as if Congress remaining strong will prevent BJP from gaining strength.
We also assumed that if BSP and Mayawati gain strength then it will solve our problems.
Same goes for SP and AAP.

We have been wrong on all of these counts.

We are also wrong to assume that farmers' victory will help Muslims in some way.

In our obsession to defeat BJP and the Saffronites we have been trivializing our electoral power.

The secular parties make some secular nose, take our votes and then stop giving a damn about us.
In particular empowering Muslims has never been on the agenda of secular parties.
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The non BJP parties will all vie for Muslim votes, no matter what. They do not have the ideological support base to cause all Hindus to unite and vote for them. No party can match the BJP at consolidating the Hindu vote. We do not need to worry about Hindu votes consolidating under any other party than the BJP.

Initially that will not happen.
But when we start voting for Muslim political parties then it will.
And that will be very empowering for Muslims.
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Muslims voting for AIMIM will force the other non BJP parties to up their game at courting Muslims.

In other words Muslims will be empowered.

Thanks you sister Ummi Khadeejah for asking these questions and brother Sharjan for being part of the clarification.
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