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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd April 2015 19:39
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brother thank you for this informative post. however i have another question since that purdah must be observed when working but what if this lady doesnt observe it? what if she only wears hijab? also what if she basically doesnt want to observe at all? Does this mean she shouldnt work?
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd April 2015 22:35
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I delayed my answer in hope for someone more sharp, wise and thoughtful to respond for me. I can offer only a very straight-forward and unsophisticated action plan:

If some people managed to set a bad example, then sincere Muslims should also be able to set a good example.

You might also like to work on point #1 of my initial post in this topic.
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Please refer to 'Ulema and try to obtain a scholarly reply to these questions. All I can say is: Maybe the sister should be more concerned about fulfilling Allah ta'ala's commandments first before taking a path which is not compulsory on her.
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd April 2015 08:11
Men and women are equal but different.
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd April 2015 13:05
"AishaZaynap wrote:
also what if she basically doesnt want to observe at all? Does this mean she shouldnt work?


"If" she doesn't want to observe at all then she shouldn't be worried about whether she can work or not

Indulging in one sin doesn't make another Halal. I've heard all my life (with disgust) "O what difference does it make (on committing or earning Haram), we don't even pray properly (regularly)."

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Please refer to 'Ulema and try to obtain a scholarly reply to these questions. All I can say is: Maybe the sister should be more concerned about fulfilling Allah ta'ala's commandments first before taking a path which is not compulsory on her.
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd April 2015 19:43
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Respected Maulana i couldnt understand the part you said ""If" she doesn't want to observe at all then she shouldn't be worried about whether she can work or not " forgive me as im simply a lay person.

im very sad to hear the above statement. May Allah protect us. İ wonder your answer when someone says something like this?
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd April 2015 20:17
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It's basically the following:

True Life wrote:
Maybe the sister should be more concerned about fulfilling Allah ta'ala's commandments first before taking a path which is not compulsory on her
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd April 2015 20:22
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Oo i see..i know i ask alot but what if that this sister has no idea about being not compulsory on her? What if all her life, by the influence of her family society told that you need a job in order to survive otherwise you will be weak. You seen it as a sign of strength? Then i think everything changes
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 24th April 2015 08:10
Maybe the belief that feminism is 100% correct and trying to conform Islam to its ideals is where the confusion lies.
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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 24th April 2015 08:30
"Should she work?" and feminism are separate issues. Try to separate the discussions of necessity and feminism. What exactly about feminism is it that we are talking about? Same pay rates? Or something else.

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 24th April 2015 09:43
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You have totally misunderstood my question. This question is the root of feminism. Where i grew up if a women didnt work it was seen as that she is depended to husband. Normally its seems okay but think of this represented in bad light as in. You will be depended to your husband! You must stand in your feet! Femisimn doesnt specificly mean equallity, it means not being depended to your husband.
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 24th April 2015 10:00
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Sometimes I don't understand why women feel this way. Of course if the Husband is not a good Muslim, then yes, these questions will rise.

But at the end of the day, the woman MUST be looked after by the husban as that is his duty. This is a major benefit for the woman, in the sense that the husband MUST provide for her and at the same time, if she is working in a suitable environment and not breaking any rules of Shariah (which I understand is not going to be easy in the Western World) and ALL the money she earns is ALL hers, she doesn't have to give anything to her husband at all, and if she does, this is Sadaqah from the wife to the husband. Its a win win situation for the women, as long as the couple are God fearing and practising people.

If on the other hand there is lack of knowledge and customary beliefs then the fault is not with the religion is it? Its lack of education and misguidance.

Some wife's live a life of luxury because it is their husbands duty to provide for them but this luxury comes when the deen is practised. Just take a look at laws of inheritance, on the outset it looks like it unfair, but in reality it is brilliant and the women gain more (all depends on how you look at it)
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 24th April 2015 10:22
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 24th April 2015 11:06
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 24th April 2015 11:29
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Brother abu muhammad i agree with you but its not only lack of education and misguidence its about how people represent islam as well. I live in Turkey and i can tell you my country recently allowed hijab. Dont think only west does this. Many companies in turkey to this day wouldnt allow it as well.


As for inheritance inshallah i will look at this. JazakAllahu Khayran for the video
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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 24th April 2015 11:32
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Brother i understand what you mean but even if a women is a feminist some point she will he pressured from her parents about marriage. It is very intresting that only brothers are seem to be more intrested in this topic. Its more intresting that i dont see a reply from any sisters.
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