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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 7th April 2015 11:11

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Who told you to do 500+ on odd nights of Ramadhan? Why not read the Qur'aan???

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 7th April 2015 11:50
  1. Started reciting 100 times based on Hadeeth
  2. When I skipped I read 200 times the next day
  3. I read it 500 times during odd night of Ramadhan

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I dont think i have derived it though

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 7th April 2015 12:44
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hmm.. may be its my view of thinking.. not arguing with you but you know Praising the creator is not something which comes under "derived" or "innovation"

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 7th April 2015 12:48

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I think that you are looking at the principle and I am looking at numbers and thats why we are disagreeing.

The most superior form of Dhik'r is the Qur'aan with no side-effects and no need to consult anyone so why not give that a go?

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 7th April 2015 12:54
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I agree with you on the Tilawat of Quran and i will do that In Sha Allah
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 7th April 2015 16:50
I agree with Muadh.

Mufti Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf would tell us in Ramadhan that instead of struggling with the completion of the Quran (if we found it difficult or completed it already) we should learn the small Surah's by heart or correct ourselves because the rewards are the same in the sense that each letter (from the Qur'an) holds the reward of 10 letters and if we repeatedly recite the same verses of the Quran, we would get the normal reward of 10 plus the multiplication of ramadhan for every time we read the Quran. supreme benefit, Alhumdulillah.

It works out better in so many ways.

If we improve on our memorized Surah's then that too will benefit us when Allah asks us to recite the Quran as much as we know by heart and this in turn will elevate our status in Jannah too. The positives are far greater than any other adhkaar.
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 11:32
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Why are you talking with Noor Zaman on Skype?
He's a fraud and has heavily been refuted on this forum.


Also what other zikr are you doing and who gave it to you? I find it hard to believe that you are doing 3rd kalima by itself, on a side note stay away from amils as they are full of guesswork and most are cons and each one you go to will tell you a different story.

Try reading abundant darood, get a copy of dalail ul Khairat and read that, hizbul Azzam and munjaatay maqbool are also good. Next time you feel heat have a cold shower.

If noor Zaman gave you any zikr stop it at once and never contact him again.


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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 11:39
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Topic for another thread really


I asked someone and he said it is accepted whether done silently it not. Someone said to me if you recite in your heart then your just imagining it, he said so people standing in Salah are just imagining it?

Just imagine all those people who silently recite Quran in Ramadan, so they're recital is not accepted? Plus only so much one can recite audibly.


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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 12:04
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i talked with him 7 months before when i saw him on youtube , did a search on google and found out some good posts about him in sunniforum .. told him my issue and i posted his response before.. he told me bismillah wazaif and i did completed it and after that i got into contact with one his khalifa and stuff went one. later i found blogspot of the guy who is exposing him and found out that he is one who is calling him good in SF forum...asked his khalifa about that he said "just rumors" but left following silsilah, but the khalifa was a good man and after one month he also left the silsilah..

3rd kalima contains the praise which ALLAH loves much so i did it.. HEAT is only sometimes when i am praying namaz and once i am out of namaz everything gone.

the thing which i am really bothered now are the lights i see .. its kinda of distrubing me when i am praying and i am not able to find the cause and fix it..

anyway what you think of ubqari shaikh? i see that there dhikr also starts with third kalima
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 12:21
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Yes Maulana taliban made a big error.

They're amal contains sifli amal whosoever does it they're matters get better and later all later everything gets worser. Even though to the layman he may just think that all I'm doing is praising Allah... Whoever gives the zikr their niyyah plays a part too.. I just hope the sifli amal hasn't been activated in your case.



Which city are you from? You need to contact a kamil shaykh not an amil. Do plenty of Istigfar.

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 12:32
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hmm.. anyway i haven't done any of there wazaif except the bismillah one... bcoz i haven't seen a match between the tasawwuf which is taught by others and this gang.. some tasawwuf books which i have read helped me there

"Whoever gives the zikr their niyyah plays a part too"

agree.. read it somewhere

I am from kadapa (Andhra Pradesh)
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 12:32
Also another thing I'd like to point out is, maybe your imagining things/hallucinating, this can actually happen and I wouldn't be surprised if it did. When you do a dodgy shaykhs zikr then something gets activated and then he controls your senses and makes you feel/hear/see things that he want's to, why ? well there could be a variety of reasons, and all along it could be just a mere illusion in your own mind. The Auliya Allah of old spoke about this and these dodgy shaykhs use their tawajjuh and said zikr to control when all along its just a feeling. However not many people of today know about this as its not the norm

I remember maulana saying that in his presence he could make ones whole lataif to start jumping up and down. So I won't be surprised..

Walahu'Alam

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 12:38
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this stuff happening to me before i met them.. and they say "your shazli so it was happening to you" i was what ?? but i kept calm thinking that they may be right :D... its like first they praise you .. make your nafs happy..
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 12:42
This is too much for me, It's a whole new dimension :(

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 12:43

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Noor Zaman:

I also spoke to him 2-3 times on Skype and I posed a number of questions to him (summary) as follows (from memory):

  1. How can a beginner in Tassawuff get anywhere if he/she seeks advice from multiple Mashaykh at the same time? This person is a beginner so he/she has no clue on determining the Aqeedah of the Shaykh or his methodology according to the Sunnah? AND if you say that this beginner should ask you for advice (exclusively) then aren’t you calling for Wahdatul-Mashrab (standard Tassawuff) for yourself?
  2. How does your method of Tassawuff work for those who don’t follow Hanafi Madhab or don’t follow any Madhab at all? Is there a link between your Tassawuff and Taqleed (of Madhabs)?
  3. You are clearly using Jinns to remove Jinns from other people, would you highlight the correct position of our Akabir on this matter and from Fiqh?

It was clear as daylight that this guy doesn’t even understand the questions let alone answer them!

Hakeem Tariq Mehmood of Ubqari:

I was the first one who translated some of the documents sent to me (about Wudhu) etc and then I read the magazine. When you read the actual magazine it is basically like Readers Digest i.e. readers sent their anecdotal experience (i.e. I had eczema I tried this and I was cured miraculously etc etc etc). In Pakistan this may be impressive but in the world of science it is NON-NENSE!

If you have a cure for something put it through a proper scientific experimental process and I am not saying that Medical science has all the answers but all those bold claims from “Aunties of Pakistan” in the magazine are unproven hotch-potch! I have never met these people who are miraculously cured, I have no idea about the background of their illness or the cure or resurgence of their disease! Do you want a patient to throw away his heart medication based on letters in a magazine?

STUPIDTY!

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