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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 24th September 2013 11:43
Dancing n singing on happy or special occasions is proven in ahadis but they've nothing to do with the dancing of sufism.
When somebody has his soul purified (''Qad aflaha man zakkaha'') he's included among special slaves of Allah swt. He sees or feels paranormal happenings e.g. Watching the Noor, clairvoyance pertaining to angles etc.
We've some instances from some awlia ikram rh.a regarding dancing at zikrullah. So these fake modern sufis try to prove it as an Islamic tradition n quote those ahadis which've nothing to do with sufi dancing.
Reality of those incidences of awlia ikram rh.a is that they didn't do dancing deliberately rather, being overwhelmed in love of Allah swt their body began to move n sometimes they're made to dance e.g. When RasulAllah s.a.w appealed all Muslims to help Islam to fight Ghazwa e Tabuk. Hz Abubakar Siddiq rz.a donated all his money, clothes,pots etc all things fi sabilillah n covered his lower part with thorn-buckled-hessian. Allah swt liked his sacrifice n sent his Salam n asked him how he was. When RasulAllah s.a.w informed him about this happy news he was overwhelmed n his body began to move effortlessly (it was not dancing)
Hz awlia ikram rh.a were sincere in their love of Allah swt. They're strict followers of sharia. They didn't like this pomp n show. Even their act was good only for them. Their actions can't be taken as the proof.
Now ulama e ikram strictly forbid us to involve in sufi dancing.
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 24th September 2013 12:04

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Deen is not what Auliya-Allah (SWT) do but what Sayyidina Rasul-ullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam), Sahaba (RA), Taba'een (RA) & Taba'een (RA) did and there is NOT ONE example where the Sahaba (RA) danced or got out of control.

The only evidence in Islam is as follows:

Aisha (RA) reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, came to my house when two girls were beside me singing songs of Bu’ath. He laid down and turned his face to the other side. Then, Abu Bakr came and spoke to me harshly, saying, “Musical instruments of Satan near the Prophet?” The Messenger of Allah turned his face toward him and said, “Leave them.” When Abu Bakr became inattentive, I signaled the girls and they left. It was the day of celebration and the Abyssinians were playing with shields and spears; either I asked the Prophet or he asked me whether I would like to watch. I said yes. Then the Prophet made me stand behind him while my cheek was touching his cheek and he was saying, “Carry on, O Banu Arfida,” until I became tired. The Prophet asked me, “Are you satisfied?” I said yes, so I left. [Source: Sahih Bukhari 907]

How does this justify Sufi dancing?

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 24th September 2013 12:22
What about Hadra ? Haven't ulema deemed this form of Sufi dancing permissible ?

The only narrations I've seen is of a Sahabi r.a hopping around the Prophet :saw: in joy, if someone's knows what I'm referring to then maybe they can post up the narration.



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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 24th September 2013 12:54

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Sufees produce the following Hadeeth as evidence as it is the only one which fits the bill:

عن أنس قال: «كانت الحبشة يزفنون بين يدي رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلّم ويرقصون ويقولون: محمد عبد صالح ، فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلّم: ما يقولون؟ قالوا: يقولون: محمد عبد صالح

Sufi translation: Sayyidina Anas (RA) that the Habashis were presenting their art in front of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) and “THEY WERE DANCING (Yarqasun)” while saying: Muhammadun Abdun Salih (i.e. Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم the righteous slave). The Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) asked: What are they saying? They said: Muhammadun Abdun Salih [Musnad Ahmed bin Hanbal, Volume No.3, Page no. 152]

Three explainations:

  1. These are the actions of african slaves and not the action of Sahab-e-Kiraam (RA)
  2. There are some dissagrements over the chain of the narration above
  3. This Hadeeth corresponds to the Authentic Hadeeth below, consider the following points in the complete authentic narration of Saheeh Bukhari:

    1. These Africans had weapons so they were showing weapons on the day of Eid (it was a celebration). Imam Bukhari (RA) has produced the Hadeeth underباب الحراب والدَّرَق يوم العيد  and this is also explained clealry by Allamah Badruddin Aini Hanafi (RA)
    2. Imam Nawawi (RA) writes that this is evidence for showing weapons (of Jihad) and related exercises in the Masjid فيه جواز اللعب بالسلاح ، ونحوه من آلات الحرب ، في المسجد ، ويلتحق به ما في معناه من الأسباب المعينة على الجهاد

So how did the Sufees get from displaying weapons (of Jihad) and Mastery over them to Sufi-dancing? It shows that Muslims were in the habit of displaying weaponry and techniques even on Eid i.e. that their Eid joy was not about aimless celebrations but Jihad. 

Hadeeth is produced above and reproduced as follows:

Aisha (RA) reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, came to my house when two girls were beside me singing songs of Bu’ath. He laid down and turned his face to the other side. Then, Abu Bakr came and spoke to me harshly, saying, “Musical instruments of Satan near the Prophet?” The Messenger of Allah turned his face toward him and said, “Leave them.” When Abu Bakr became inattentive, I signaled the girls and they left. It was the day of celebration and the Abyssinians were playing with shields and spears; either I asked the Prophet or he asked me whether I would like to watch. I said yes. Then the Prophet made me stand behind him while my cheek was touching his cheek and he was saying, “Carry on, O Banu Arfida,” until I became tired. The Prophet asked me, “Are you satisfied?” I said yes, so I left. [Source: Sahih Bukhari 907]

  1. Do the Sufees have any involvement in Jihad in our times?
  2. Do they dance with weapons?
  3. Most importantly, did the Sahaba (RA) do this or the slaves?
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 24th September 2013 16:18
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What is the ruling regarding the Sufi hadra in the Shafi'i school?





Preliminaries



[m: The hadra is a form of group dhikr where the attendees most often stand in a circle. Depending on the particular Sufi order, it can contain elements such as singing, dancing, and music.]







Answer



The ruling on an issue derives from its conceptualization.[1]

Whatever has been decisively proven as impermissible is not permitted, and whatever has been decisively proven as permissible is permitted.

If the hadra contains something impermissible, like the free-mixing of marriageable men and women in way that is conducive to temptation or unrestrained looking at the unlawful, then attending it is forbidden.

Similarly, if [m: the hadra] includes the playing of musical instruments like the kubah (a drum that is wide at each end and narrow in the middle), mizmar ([m: a wood wind instrument similar to the flute]), lute (Ar. 'ud), and similar musical instruments, then attending it is forbidden.

As for the duff ([m: a shallow drum, like a tambourine but without the metal jingles]) and drum that is wide at both ends and the middle, they are permissible in our school for men and women, during weddings and at other times.

If the hadra is free from forbidden elements and combines the remembrance of Allah Most High, praising Him as He deserves, and lauding the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace), then all of this is fundamentally recommended in Islamic law according to the consensus of Muslims, as is clear.

If movement is added to this, as some Sufis do, there is no harm in it, because dancing is permissible for men and women in our school as long it doesn't contain effeminate or licentious movements as wicked and shameless people do. Otherwise, [m: if it contains such prohibited movements], it is forbidden.

Imam Ibn Hajar Al-Haytami, the last muharrir [2] imam of our school, was asked about Sufis dancing during their ecstasy and he upheld their practice. In part, he says, "it is permissible to stand and dance during gatherings of remembrance [m: of Allah] and audition according to a group of great scholars, among them being Shaykh Al-Islam Ibn Abdussalam." (Fatawa Hadithiyya, p. 298)



Al-Jalal As-Suyuti, the imam and hadith master, was asked about the Sufi dance: is it permissible to repudiate those who do it? He replied that it was not permissible to repudiate them and that the one who repudiates is mistaken. He narrated this from a group of scholars (al-Hawi li’l-Fatawi).



The upshot is that if one wishes to do this [m: (i.e., attend a hadra)] while observing the above-mentioned rules, it is not permissible to repudiate him because, at worst, this matter is differed upon. It is not permissible to repudiate one who does [m: an act that is differed upon], as Imam Al-Ghazali (Ihya), An-Nawawi (Sharh Sahih Muslim), Al-'Izz Ibn Abdussalam (Shajarah Al-Ahwal Wa Al-Ma'arif), other others point out [m: in the parenthesized texts].





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[m:



[1] The ruling on an issue derives from its conceptualization is a maxim of classical logic. It means that before one can pass judgment on an issue, one has to properly understand it.

[2] A muharrir imam is one who authoritatively identifies the strong and weak positions within the school.



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Amjad Rasheed

(Translated by Moustafa Elqabbany and Hamza Karamali)



Sallamu Alaikum

This was explained before in another thread:

Ali said: I visited the Prophet with Ja`far ibn Abi Talib and Zayd ibn Haritha. The Prophet said to Zayd: "You are my freedman" (anta mawlay), whereupon Zayd began to hop on one leg around the prophet (hajala). The Prophet then said to Ja`far: "You resemble me in my creation and my manners" (anta ashbahta khalqi wa khuluqi), whereupon Ja`far began to hop behind Zayd. The Prophet then said to me: "You pertain to me and I pertain to you" (anta minni wa ana minka) whereupon I began to hop behind Ja`far.

Musnad Imam Ahmad

Shaikhul Islam Ibn Hajar Haytami mentions in his fatwa Hadithoyya that some scholars have seen in this evidence for the permissibility of dancing upon hearing a recital (sama`) that lifts the spirit.

Probably one of the best examples is that of Shaikh Izz Addin ibn Abd Salam nicknamed Sultan Al Awliya, who was known to go to Dhikr gatherings and dance in states od ecstacy. At the same time we should note that his criteria was very strict. He has 2 fatwas on this issue. ONe allowing it for certain people if certain conditions were met and another Fatwa prohibiting dancing when it was of the "wordly kind."

The word Hajala means "To leap or Hop"

leap

تَوَثَّبَ , حَجَلَ , طَفَرَ , قَفَزَ , نَزَا , نَطَّ , نَقزَ , وَثَبَ

The definition of dancing is:

1. To move rhythmically usually to music, using prescribed or improvised steps and gestures.

2.
A.To leap or skip about excitedly.
B.To appear to flash or twinkle: eyes that danced with merriment.

The word Hajala doesnt signify "swaying of the body".

This is why some of the Ulema, although they maybe a minority have seen this as evidence to allow such an action (based on certain strict criterias).

Regarding Shaikh Izz Ad din it states:

"kana yahduru al sama` wa yarqusu wa yatawajadu"

meaning:

" (He) attended the sama` and danced in states of ecstasy"

This is reported by Nabahani in his Jami Karamat Al Awliya, Ibn Imad in his Shadharat and others.

The word Yarqusu is formed from the word رَقَصَ which means dancing.

Note that my teachers who are hanafi do not allow this while doing Dhikr and so forth.

Wallahu A'lam

The Sufi Hadra
www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?164-The-sufi-hadr...

The origins of Hadra
www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?68167-The-origins...



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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 24th September 2013 16:36
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 24th September 2013 16:46
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according to discussion on SF's thread, this issue may be considered as disputive one though but I see my akabrin rh.a n I dont find even a single clue of its permission. Alhamdulillah I've studied malfuzat e hakimul ummat rh.a, compiled by his several khulafa rh.a
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