Marriage - Issues
13th January 2013
Assalamoalaikum, my last question ID is 4192 and asking the same question but Just wanted to add few more things to explain the situation better.
1.The husband i referred in last question(4192) is my husband and he said to me in fight and anger that 'If you want me I will sign the divorce papers' and then I stopped him to say anything further then he said with anger ' Na its finished' about 2 times. Later I asked his intention he said he meant to say that he wont accept my apology after that fight means he did not want to talk to me that night. He said he did not have any intention of divorce. My husband said that he never knew that divorce can be given verbally. He thought it can be only given by mutual consent and signing the divorce papers. He only came to know about it when I told him after that fight mentioned above.
2. Ater that fight I was going through lots of reasearching regarding divorce telling about direct and indirect words so i was getting stressed out that he has said things to me in past in anger like get out, find another husband etc but me and my husband never knew and notice cause we did not know that these kinds of statements/words can constitute divorce. But i don't remember exactly what else he had said . But if the intention is required my husband said he never knew that verbally divorce can be given. Therefore, whatever he said he never had any intention of divorce or ending marriage.
3.What i remember from the past he never said direct words of divorce except the one "if you want me i will go to the court and sign divorce papers." ( mentioned above). I asked him whether he can put his hand on Quran pak saying he had no intention of divorce. He said yes he can put his hand on Quran pak. He is very sure that he never had any intentions by whatever he has or may have said to me even in the past because he never knew divorce can be done verbally.
Is our marriage valid?
Sorry for repeating my question but actually I thought I did not add all the information.
JazakAllah Khair
Marriage - Issues
22nd December 2012
Asalaamu alaikum.
I am confused as to whether or not these talaaqs are valid. My husband has said it 3 times at 3 different occasions, he argues they are not valid as they were in anger.
The first one was in an argument where we both verbally abused each other & i swore at him & told him to divorce me & he said talaaq this took place over the phone, he then took me back.
The second time was in an argument on facebook and he also said talaaq again & then took me back.
The third time was also over facebook in a heated argument which again involved us being abusive to one another & me telling him to divorce me, this time he said ur taaliqa taaliqa taaliqa...is this translation valid? After he said it he sent a message saying the divorce isnt for me or for Allah, its for your sake & Allah knows what is in my heart.
I would be greatful if you could assist me in this as he argues that the first 2 are not valid. I havent spoken to him since he said it the third time as i would like the matter to be cleared first. We also have 2 children involved.
JazakhaAllah khair sister umm esa.
Marriage - Issues
22nd December 2012
Assalamoalaikum ,
I have a question regarding divorce.
A husband said to his wife during fight and anger that ' If you want I will go to the court and sign the divorce papers'. After that his wife stopped him to not say anything further. The husband then said about 2 times that 'its finished'.
Later when the intention of husband was asked behind saying 'its finished' he said that he just intended to say that no reconcilation will take place ( means he won't speak to his wife that night). He said he did not think about either marriage or divorce when he said the words its finished.
What about if a husband says at other occasion to his wife in anger " Go find another husband" but had no intention of divorce. The husband was asked by wife whether he can put his hand on Quran and say that he had no intentions of divorce or ending marriage by the words he said (mentioned above). He then said 'yes' he can put his hand on Quran that whatever he said he never intended for divorce or ending the marriage.
Please answer this question as soon as possible. Is this marriage still valid according to hanafis?
JazakAllah khair
Marriage - Issues
25th October 2012
Should i tell my future husband that i am not a virgin?
EXTRAS:
please could you also tell me a dua that can lessen the burden of guilt and disgust from my heart and a dua that i can ask for forgiveness.
Marriage - Issues
24th October 2012
Assalamualaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
I pray to Allah, this email reaches you in the best of health and imaan.
First of all I would like to say Ramadhan Mubarak.
I have emailed you today, as I wish to require some advice.
I am 21 years of age, studying in my final year university. I come from a gujratti background.
Many years ago, when i was at the age of 14 I got involved with a boy which was the biggest mistake I have ever made. After this incident I promised myself and swore on Allah I would not become emotionally attached to another male. Alhamdulillah with the help of Allah, I managed to change my life around taking small steps changing myself and my ways. mashAllah throughout sixth form I managed to build the barrier with the brother in my class. Alhamdulillah this allowed the brothers to build some respect for me where they would not speak in the wrong context with myself.
My first two years at university were the same, where in I had no contact with brothers. However earlier this year in March, I came across an online forum. i joined up ( I do admit it wasnt the best online forum to join) initially when I joined, I thought it was a forum where people would discuss islamic issues and give advice. There was alot of this occuring which was Alhamdulillah good. However if we needed help with something we could post and someone would reply if they were happy to assist. At this time i was preparing a presentation for a university project, I needed help in converting a recording to mp3 format. I posted on the forum as I was desperate for help, and a brother replied with assistance. He asked for me to send him the file and he would convert it for me. I shouldn't have gone ahead with this decision but I did. After this assitance the brother of pakistani background and I began to speak online.
After speaking to him , I became aware, he was very involved in the dawah scene and he had a genuine passion for deen. we would speak alot about islam. slowly unfortunately, astagfirullah I began to feel some kind of attachement and feeling towards him. The passion for deen was just amazing, he spends alot of time in the company of his local Imam. He helped me improve my life, encouraging me to pray five times a day.. alhamdulillah which I now am. I am in full hijab for a couple of years, yet I found it difficult with my family to practice wearing the hijab on a full time basis. I now with this brothers encouragement wear full black attire, my parents and brother don't approve as they remark 'where are you going in the hardcore hijab style'.
However the brother requested we stop talking as it is not halal, which I totally agree and the times we did talk, I continue to repent.
We discussed marriage, he has asked for my fathers phone number, as he wishes for his father to contact mine after he comes back from hajj, I would approve, but I do not wish to hurt my parents, as they wouldnt approve of a 'pakistani son in law'.
I would like some advice how to solve this situation? what do I do? I have considered isthikara but im not 100% sure on the rulings and methods.
I would llike your advice in regards to what you believe is the correct route to take?
Jazakamullah Kayrun
Marriage - Issues
24th October 2012
Assalamualaikum, I used to work with a girl almost two years ago and I used to like her then but never asked her what she feels about me. After waiting for two years, I have not found a girl and I also found out that she has also not been married(I texted her and asked her indirectly).In recent nights(after texting her) ,I say a dream in night as if I and her are having pleasant conversation. This happened before I woke up for fajar. I am very confused since the girl is good but there are lots of hindrances and I also don't know whether she likes me or not. I am also thinking of moving back to my country of origin to support my parents and this makes the whole thing even more complicated. I seek assistance on how to take matter further in this issue. Shall I text her and ask her how she feels about me or shall I let her go completely?I request you to guide me with your knowledge.
Marriage - Issues
26th August 2012
salams
i am a busy mother to six children,wear full niqaab
i have a ever sex demanding husband,which is very hard at times to make his need fulfil
he usually needs fulfilling around 2-3 times a week,sometimes more & sometimes less
when i come on my periods it becomes a nightmare for him to deal with,all he wants to do is get in there,my period lasts up to 7 to 10 days.
i do come to him & try my best to comfort him but that's not enough,he needs more & wants more,he undresses me & then ends up nearly doing it which in turn i feel very very upset & angry,as i know it is a sin & haram
i too get very tired with waking up early morning,sending kids off to school,doing rounds for school & madrassah while he his all day at work,when i come on my period it like a week off for me,but it doesn,t end there,his like wants to caress me all the time and im so not in the mood
recently i have avoided him during this period & sleeping away from him i.e not next to him,but he has now found another way to full fill him from his internet mobile where he sees nude photos,he says he has only done it once but i have seen recent dates where he had been on this
he is a very decent man i would say & usually i am very aware of him being on the internet ect.i know he can get carried away with his sexual desires & i do ground him very badly when i do find out his been looking at nude stuff over the internet,meaning not talk to him or threaten him to leave because i have alot of hate for people watching nude stuff when you have a wife that gives you everything!
i dress up many times at night for him & wear the most skimpiest underwear i can find to please him & look beautiful for him,then why the complain?
and now this nude viewing!
why i ask?
i have asked from allah many times to make his desire a bit less so i can cope with,as i too am a human being & believe it or not all busy mothers sometimes just want a good night sleep after a tiring day
please advise
Marriage - Issues
29th June 2012
asalamalaikum brother,I would like to ask you regarding divorce.
If a man says to his wife 'do not do a certain act or I have divorced you Three times.[if you do the act]'.Then later he says I didnt mean it ,its ok now if you do the act.So his wife does the act thinking its ok .Is she divorced or not and if so is she divorced three times ?
I would like to add that the man does not follow any mazhab in particular and says the divorce is not valid,according to his beliefs.I will be grateful for your help.jazakAllah
Marriage - Issues
17th May 2012
Assalaamu Alaykum
Question regarding actual divorce statement and metaphors:
1) I would like to know, if a person WRITES e-mail to find out the ruling and on the e-mail its written that they said or wrote a metaphor with intention, but in reality they didn't say it or write it with intention or the metaphor was never spoken, would that count just because they wrote in the email that they said it or wrote it with intention, when really there was no intention at the time of saying or writing or it was not spoken ?
2) If someone is in doubt and confused about saying a statment or a metaphor to his wife and says 'I said the statement.....etc' and then after some thinking he says I didn't say it and it was all doubt and confusion, would that count just because he said that he said it?
3) If someone says Withdraw/s or return or returned, or (Turja'oon which means returned, would that count? Nothing else is uttered.
4) If someone says Waladaaleen in Surah Fatiha and the intention is on the 'went' word (those who went astray ), would that count? Nothing else is uttered.
5) If someone says location or a name of a place, would that count? Nothing else is uttered.
Marriage - Issues
15th May 2012
Salaam,
I have a question,
I gave a freind some advice which was very bais, Will I get sin for that, although I made it very clear that it was just my advice.
I was very young wen I gave this advice (only 18), I told some one they should get a divorce, I had my reasons to give this advice.
But I was scared wen I found out that divorce is one of the most disliked of halal things in ALLAH's creation.
The couple didnt get a divorce, so that proves they didnt take my advice.
But the fact remains that I still gave some1 that advice.
W/Salaam
Marriage - Issues
15th May 2012
Aslaam Alaikum I have some questions relating to the same topic. I firstly like to apologise about the length of the question. Please reply.
1) I am suffering from very bad waswasa of divorce thoughts lately, which come to me without my will or intention. Because i am suffering from waswasa everything i say becomes a real struggle of the mind. If i say something to anyone or read quran or a book, something in my head makes me believe that i am saying these things to my wife. For example i might be getting angry towards my brother but something in my mind makes me believe that i am saying these words to my wife. Or if I have a book or papers or clothes in my hand and something in my head makes me feel that there is a metaphor on there and makes me feel there is intention. What do I do? please tell me how to solve this problem of unintentional thoughts? Everytime I talk or write, something makes me feel that there is intention, but in reality I have no intention. I am struggling. BECAUSE OF THIS CONDITION I FEEL THERE IS A LACK OF SELF CONTROL IN ME AND I AM SCARED THAT BECAUSE OF THIS I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO CONTRO!L MY INTENTIONS AND MY THOUGHTS, WHAT DO I DO?
2) At one point I was at my in-laws and I was standing by the door waiting for my wife. My sister in law asked me if I was going, it was just a general/normal question. At first I didn't reply because of these thoughts, because they make me feel that I am aiming it towards my wife, but really I have no intention. So she asked me again and I said 'yes/yeah'. At that moment something in my head made me feel that I am saying 'yes/yeah' to divorce. But really I have no intention and I don't intend to. I would like to know what the ruling would be IF there was intention in saying of 'yes/yeah' to a normal general question as explained, would that count?
3)If someone writes just their signature with intention (in their mind) on plain paper or a business contract or a document or a general printed paper sitting on a table with possible metaphors printed on, would that count? No verbal speech is spoken or anything written by them self or given except the writing of the signature
Marriage - Issues
15th May 2012
Assalamu alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh
Do the following statements when said with the intention of talak constitute a Kinayah breaking the bond of marriage? If not, please can you explain why as they appear to mean Talak?
Please can you provide a brief explanation of Kinayah which breaks the marriage bond?
"I take an oath that you are not my wife",
"you are not my wife",
"I am not your husband", "
"There is no Nikaah between the two of us..."
" I have not married you",
"There is no Nikah between us",
"I have no need for you".
May ALLAH in his extreme munificence reward you according to HIS SHAAN for your Khidmaat to the Deen.
Jazakallahu Kharian Wa Ahsanul Jaza
Wa Alaykum Salaam Warah Matullahi Wabarakatuh
Marriage - Issues
15th May 2012
Asalamalikum,
My question is related to question ID#4152 as I keep gettting the feeling that I did not paint the correct picture and I might still be committing a sin as I feel I was a bit unclear in my question before and it has come to a point where I am unable to do anything properly now and my family life is being affected due to the thoughts that I get.
I am not sure if it's relevant but I would like to give a little bit of a background on this please.This is to let you know that I never ever contemplated or even toyed with the idea of divorce until all this happened.About a year and a half ago I was doing extensive research on divorce for personal reasons because I used to say to my wife that she could go to her parents ' house etc (but as far as I can remember I did not have the intention and no allusive words came to mind ever) when saying that.Then after doing research on the internet and reading different scenarios and Q&A's I started to get waswasas and doubts about divorce thinking that what if god forbid I had meant it but I was never certain as I kept applying those on myself.As I read more and more I got more confused and what also started happening was that whenever I would get even a little bit tired or even into a minor argument with my wife or sometimes even a normal conversation I would get this hammering thought of divorce through my head.It was like somebody saying like the proper words of divorce ( I am not sure what it is actually and how it starts but it just started and wouldn't go away until I yelled at myself or did something to talk myself out of it etc).This thought would hammer through my head saying words like I .... you and just kept repeating until I yell at myself down or talk myself out of it.Usually I would be telling myself that it was nothing and that it would go away but it got to a point where sometimes I would be scared to get into a very simple conversation or argument with my wife due to this and it has been like that since.Needless to say I started becoming extra extra careful with everything.
A few examples of the above would be when I read somewhere that if my wife performs an action and if a thought comes to my mind then divorce happens so I asked my wife to stop drinking tea because I couldnt control this feeling(without any reason) and while she was drinking tea I started getting this feeling (no fights between us or anything) but later on a mufti sahib told me that unless I specifically mention my niyah in words it does not count.Another thing that I started doing was that every chat that I had with my wife I would later go over it again and again to see if I had accidentally said something god forbid in that regard.Another one is when initially when my wife asked me to put some medicine on her forehead at night and I would be tired while Id be applying the medicine I would keep getting this voice/feeling.Once it happens I cant have a conversation with my wife at all as then I focus all my energies on countering this.Sometimes this gets so frustrating for me that I have to stop doing everything that I am doing and step back to get rid of this feeling.
I am not sure if the above is related to this but I am seeking a fatwa on the following when I was talking to my wife on the internet (chat) and we started talking about her visit to her parent's house. I do tend to get a bit angry when this topic is touched as she keeps saying to me that I never let her go to her parents’ house etc but I believe I don't really stop her from doing that..Now I am seeking a fatwa for the following that I said to my wife on chat" you have been wanting to go for such a long long time.i mean you know as well as i do you should go to your hearts content".
But in the above case I just remember that I had started getting this hammering voice and feeling out of nowhere saying the divorce word to my wife going through my head numerous times and something like another feeling like I dont care (I think I got this feeling not sure as I can't remember much about the incident) and that was repeating as well.I would like to remember what happened after that but all I remember is all these thoughts going through my head and then I think I kind of blanked out as I usually do when I get this kind of feeling as mentioned above.I don't even remember when I typed these statements.I keep thinking it was either once or after twice but I am not very sure about it so it could have been more or less than that as well. I had no control over my thoughts.I am not sure when it started and when it ended.I dont remember atleast having any intention and then suddenly this happened.I roughly remember that right after the feeling ended I just realised I might have said something like that and suddenly I felt I kind of snapped out of it and tried to be normal.I saved the chat to look at it later (as I usually do and did not pay much attention to it as many times I would save the chat in the past and then nothing would come out of it) and It is only that when I later checked the saved chat that I realised I had said. I was surprised and extremely worried to see those exact words as I didnt even remember saying those words.
Now I am really confused as to what happened and would like your feedback on this please.Was this an intention please and does this count as a divorce (if yes how many as the voice keeps going only through my head?)
Another question that I have is that prevously (initially, prior to the incident mentioned above) when I was getting these very strong waswasas last year after reading up on this I was told by another mufti that one way to get rid of them was to perform the nikkah again this way there was no uncertainty left around these issues so I ended up doing that again with my wife but now after all this has happened I realise that it was just a waswasa as I never ever had any such allusive words or thoughts (as above) had come to me before when saying such a thing.In this case, does that nikkah hold any solid ground according to Shariah or is it regarded as null and void?
Please help.I have also attached the whole chat for your reference.
me: return will be around 22-23 jan or do you want to make it even later? i can do later
wife: Yeah I said end of jan I was thinking 28th/29th jan
me: okay ill ask her if tickets are available
wife: Cool
me: should i do first week of feb? i mean i dont mind you mihgt as well stay there for a month and a half atleast you have alwyas been wanting to go plus ali will spend time with nana nani?
me: so the further you go out the easier it will be to get tickets mid of feb easiest or end of feb even
wife: Noo.That's too late
me:you have been wanting to go for such a long long long long time.i mean you know as well as i do you should go to your hearts content
me: so that you never ever feel that i was the cause of not letting you go somewhere ill be here alone for a month and a half anywayno bigy there just enjoy this time you have been wanting to do this for ages i know let me see if mid to endFeb is available anyway ill give you the options
wife: Noo that's too late i am trying to see for a week or so inshALLAH coz when we fight we say wrong things sometimes and i am asking you myself if you would like to stay there for more time? as you always say to me that girls go to their parents house
me: yeah but in any case its not the wrong reason innit?
wife: Leave it for end of jan
me: trying to make you happy for any reason should be a good enough reason innit?
wife: I want u to go so u can get a break and relax. U want me to go so I don't say to u in a fight girls go to their parents houses. We have two extremely different reasons.
me: yup because i think people should not do unjust things in fights and they should realise what good things happened to them and that their spouses are not unjust
and if they lie or say things to hurt each other thats not fair so i alwyas try and prove that what you say in a fight is unjust if its unjust be it masALLAH your parents visitng you
or you visiting them we have it better than anybody else i know alhamdulillah so i want your comfort bhai you said you feel rested when you visit your parents
and that you have never ever had that time coz you couldnt spend time after the kids birth so now i am looking for you to make it upand i swear theres no malice there i just want you to not miss out on that that's all?
Marriage - Issues
14th March 2012
Assalam Alaikum Brother,
I am getting married in a few months. But my to be wife still has 3 years of her education left. She is pursing Bachelors in Architecture.
Is reversible contraception allowed in the above case as per Islamic Shariah only till the time so that she can complete her studies.
She has been really insistent to complete her studies. Also the marriage cannot be delayed any further.
Please advice in the light of Quran and Sunnah.
Jazakallah
Marriage - Issues
24th February 2012
Assalamu alaikum
I'm in big problem regarding some talaq conditions. Once my wife left my house without my permission and went to my uncle's house. I called her come back but she refused. Then I went to my uncle's house and asked her to come to house. During the conversation I said being my wife you can't stay here. come to the house or tell me if you want to go anywhere else and I'll take you there. But you can't stay here. I was saying all these to persuade her without the intention of ending the marriage. She still refused saying that my dad asked me to stay here. I tried to convince her more but then I said one talaq. Then I said now stay, you're so stubborn. Then I left that house and she spent the night over that house (my uncle's house). Now my question is how many talaq will be in this situation. would there be any conditional talaq because of me saying being my wife you can't stay in this wife. Please give me a clear explanation.
Syed
Marriage - Issues
29th November 2011
Dear Mufti Saheb,
Assalamu alaikum warah
Am in a very critical situaltion now.. Please help me and reply me @ the earliest,
My wife stays with her mom as we did secret marraige. She didnt pick up my call when I called her so I was angry and waited for her call. She called me and said she was not well so she went to hospital. I asked her why cant you just inform me, This talk went on and suddenly I got angry and said I dont like to live with you. If you wish I will give dash (Never uttered the word) so that you can go away. she did fight for some time and after some time even she said okay... give and go off...
Then I said tell me if is it confirm, Shall I give off she said yes give off... I said Ok I ll message you on this and hung up the call.
Then I was totally upset and sat for a while. At that time one heart was saying give her one (never uttered the word) so that she realise. Another heart said no please dont do that, because Allah never like that
for this another heart said No! Allah please forgive me I got to give her!! only then she will come in control (Even now I never uttered the word)
after this I accessed your site and went through all fatwas to get answer, However nothing satisfied me or I dont get exact answer which fits my issue. So please reply me at the earliest.
* Is this act considered one Talaq is given
* Is this act considered two Talaq is given
*Is she she still in my Nikah
*Do I have to perform Nikah again
Please reply at the earliest.
Wassalam
Mohammed Huzaifa
Marriage - Issues
29th November 2011
Salaam Shaykh
I have been a very frustrated and angry recently. I know this married couple who have been married for few years and they’ve got three little children. The couple have been having marriage problems ever since marriage and the women in concern use to live with her in-laws. Although the guys parents never wanted the couple to be married but ever since the marriage the in-laws as well as her sister in-laws have been very problematic and have caused major issues. The guy himself isn’t a good person as not only does he womanise but he has beaten his wife up many times. The guy also gave his wife one talaq during the initial stage of marriage. The girl has come back to her parents house numerous times and she goes back to her in-laws as many promises are made to her.
Recently after an argument the guy became violent again and her father in law suggested that they have a divorce and that his son will re marry and that her father in law is going to call her father and will make sure that she leaves. The women didn’t want her parents involved and didn’t want them to be humiliated like that and she called the police and consequently the police took her back to her parents with her children which really hit the pride of her husband and in laws.
The young women never blamed her husband for anything but instead diverted all the blame to her in laws although many have advised that he is the problem!
While I was at the women’s parents house with her family I received a call from her husband accusing and threatening me of allsorts and he mentioned that he is going to bring a few people and wants a divorce from his wife. I said ‘if you wanted a divorce you would of by now, he then said I gave her three talaqs last week and three talaqs half an hour ago over the phone, their were a few family members who listened to what he said as it was on loud speaker and the conversation was also recorded. We then asked the women who didn’t previously mention anything about any divorce and asked by number of people and she confirmed each time without any hesitation that she was given the 3 talaqs by him half an hour ago over the phone. Myself and the women’s brother then met three Scholars the very next day and explained everything and they confirmed that the marriage was over. I myself went to another 6 Scholars and again they confirmed that the divorce has taken place. The brother now has kind of changed his tone and is not really addressing the issue and what the scholars have said. The women herself does not agree that she has been divorced and keeps on saying that I don’t want a divorce and has changed her tone saying that she now thinks he might of gave two talaqs rather than three. She is also in regular conversation with her ex sister in laws who are advising that she is not divorced as three talaqs in anger constitutes as one. The guys uncle has got involved and is saying that these Maulanas make things up and if his nephew said talaq three times in anger then its not a divorce and that he thinks that the guy has got mental health problems although the guy has got no history of mental health issues. Her parents are not dealing with this issue at all and to clarify the issue they have not got any scholars involved and have allowed her to meet her ex husband through the guys uncle who is now pulling all the strings. This whole issue isn’t being challenged by anyone although she is still living with her parents she is in regular conversation and also meets her ex and as I understand that its been suggested that they move to their own house. I have mentioned to her that she is now divorced her older sister has also advised that she is now divorced but her parents are just ignoring what we are saying and isolating us from everything and are allowing her to do what ever she wishes and others to make judgement on this issue rather than scholars.
I’m frustrated, what do we do as they are living a life of sin and everyone’s in total denial.
Marriage - Issues
29th November 2011
Asalmalikum Imam Sahib,
I was talking to my wife a couple of months ago on the internet (chat) and we started talking about her regarding her visit to her parent's house.I do tend to get a bit angry when this topic is touched as she keeps saying to me that I never let her go to her parents house etc. I am now very scared that I might have said something that affects my marriage or god forbid invalidates it in this chat.When I said the text below I kept getting the thought of divorce word going through my thoughts.So I am not sure if that's a waswasa or intention as I had been getting such waswasas for the last year now.This has become a major problem for me and I would appreciate it if you can go through the following chat and let me know what's the fatwa on this? I have highlighted the major area of concern as I saved the chat .Please please please help inshALLAH.
JazakALLAH kher.
me: you have been wanting to go for such a long long long long time.i mean you know as well as i do you should go to ur hearts content
Wasalam,
Marriage - Issues
29th June 2011
Assalam-U-Alaikum,
I have had an intense verbal argument with my wife over phone and at one stage during the conversation, upon her uttering a provocative statement, I was about to utter the divorce words but didnt as I was in the state of anger. Later during the same conversation, things cooled down and I was calmed down too. After that conversation ended, I was just sitting by myself and for some reason (probably just to see how the words feel coming out of one's mouth), but certainly with no intention whatsoever to actually divorce my wife (or knowing uttering the words in this manner would mean anything), I uttered in a very low voice "my wife's name and that I divorce you" (to myself, with no one arround me). I believe I did it either once or twice. Its just that this happened about two weeks ago and I can hardly remember how many times I uttered this. I am inclined to think that I utterred it twice but there may be a chance that it may be just once and a very very very low probability that I uttered it thrice (I dont think/believe I did it thrice). But I had no intention whatsover of actually divorcing her and I did it all by myself with no one present arround and it was in a very low voice (a person standing may be a few feet away from me could not have heard it).
The questions is, do we stand divorced in this situation?
It may be noted that while we had Nikah but we havent done rukhsati yet, and my wife is not living with me.
May god bless you for the guidance you render.
Marriage - Issues
14th February 2011
is a unwilling unintentional written talak valid if it is not pronounced verbally being the first or last.valid or not .this to help with my question 2040.