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abu mohammed
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 Posted on 10th November 2010 11:35Muadh_Khan wrote:
Asslamo Allaikum, Our respected brother doesn't seem to be making any coherent points anymore.
I have been informed That Brother Sohael has been injured and for that reason he is unable to respond. We pray to Allah for his quick recovery. Then he can read all the posts and either accept or respond.
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abu mohammed
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Posted on 10th November 2010 12:12 Muadh_Khan wrote:
Asslamo Allaikum, Anyone who calls for ditching of the Madhabs and bases this opinion on Saudi Scholars is frankly a MORON!
www.ibnfarooq.com/seekingKnowledgeUthaymeen.html Shaykh Al-Albani (RA) on the other hand and his students are Anti-Madhab and that’s why the Ahl-e-Hadeeth lean towards Shaykh Al-Albani (RA). Shaykh Al-Albani (RA) on the other hand was the son of an Albanian Hanafi Scholar and it is possible that the excesses of his father turned him “Anti-Hanafi”. Shaykh Al-Albani (RA) also tried to tried to rewrite Fiqh rulings “independent of Madhabs”but his works were not completed. In short, it is wrong to put Saudi Scholars and Ahl-e-Hadeeth in the same bracket as overwhelming majority of Saudi Scholars were and are “Hanbali in Madhab”. To further prove this point of difference further Shaykh Al-Albani (RA) wrote his famous Salah book which is refuted by many Hanafees. A refutation of this very book was written by Sheikh Hamoud At-Tuwaijri (RA) who a student of Shaykh Ibn Baz (RA)...If Salafees and Ahl-e-Hadeeth were the same why did the Saudi Scholars had the need to refute Shaykh Al-Albani (RA)? Saudi Scholars have also refuted Shaykh Al-Albani (RA) on Niqab, on Tashahuud and other matters. It is a very strange mix. Each one of them denies any link with the other. When I speak to Salafis, they say we are not of them, they are Saudi Salafi, or Psuedo Salafi (Dont ask!). If I ask them are you Ahle Hadith, some times there is no response. They deny any link with a group. It is obvious now that these people go under the name of the Hanabila. My neighbours are Ahle Hadith, they only go to the Salafi mosque a few miles away which is/was under the imamat of Shaykh Shuaib Hassan (DB), and now their is a new mosque in StokeNewington where the Ahle Hadith and Salafis are all one. I have even been told that Shaykh Haitham al-Haddad (DB) spent a lot of time there during Ramadhan. The Imams of this mosque have studied in Madinah and are very young, therefore there is a sense of attraction towards them. (Like a Fashion trend). The most popular website used by them also affirms the Ahle Hadith statement of Imam Ahmed ibn Hanbal. this is another reason why they dont fully deny the connection. This, I think is proof that they are Salafi, Wahabi, Ahle Hadith all 3 in 1. (Trinity) Praise be to Allaah. The phrase Ahl al-Hadeeth (people of hadeeth) refers to a group who venerate the Sunnah and seek to propagate it. They adhere to the ‘aqeedah (beliefs) of the companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). In seeking to understand their religion, they refer to the Qur’aan and Sunnah and the interpretation of the best generations, unlike others who adhere to beliefs other than the ‘aqeedah of the righteous salaf and refer to human reasoning, tastes and what they see in dreams. This group is the saved group, the victorious party, which many imams have stated is the group referred to in the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “A group of my ummah will continue to prevail, following the truth. They will not be harmed by those who humiliate them until the decree of Allaah comes to pass when they are like that.” (Narrated by Muslim, 1920). The imams, in the past and more recently, have said a great deal describing this group. We may chose from among them the following: 1 – al-Haakim said: Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal did well when he commented on this report by saying that the victorious group who will prevail until the Hour begins is “ashaab al-hadeeth” (the people of hadeeth). Who is more deserving of this description than people who follow the way of the righteous and follow in the footsteps of the salaf who came before us, and exposed the falsehood of the people of bid’ah (innovation) by basing their arguments on the Sunnahs of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? Ma’rifat ‘Uloom al-Hadeeth, by al-Haakim al-Nisaboori, p. 2, 3 See the link for full details; www.islamqa.com/en/ref/12761/ahle%20hadith What happen with Shaykh Albani (in terms of his father being a Hanafi) is what the youngsters are doing today. They want to be different from their parents, they dont agree with their parents so they take up another way. At least (I guess) it is still Islam, there are many who renounce Islam just so that they can hurt their parents. It is a real mess. The sweet words of Shaytan are disguised to look like Haq and at the same time his words are going against the Ijma of the Ummah for the last 1400 years. Whoever opposes the Rasool after the guidance (the truth of Islam) has become manifest (clear) to him and follows a path other than that of the Mu'mineen, We shall allow him to do that thing which he is doing and then enter him into Jahannam. It is the worst of abodes. Surah Nisaa: Verse 115 O you who have Imaan! Obey Alllah, obey the Rasool and those in command among you (your leaders and authorities in all fields, such as the Imams of Jurisprudence in Fiqh). If you dispute regarding any matter, then refer it to Allah (find the solution in the Qur'an) and the Rasool (or find the solution in the sunnat) if you believe in Allah and the Last Day. This is best (for all) and gives the best results (because then you will not be basing your decisions on your personal opinions).
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ummi taalib
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Posted on 10th November 2010 19:58 the request of queeni for info on Spain is a good idea as it holds great lessons. I'm starting a new thread with the hope that others will add(and correct if the need arises) as i'm familiar with the begining of the story but not the end...i'm sure bro Muadh has plenty of info about the bit where a woman was the cause!
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Posted on 23rd November 2010 22:48 abu mohammed wrote:
When I saw your comment about you being an aerospace engineer, the first thoughts that came to me were, alHamduLillah, Khalid bin Waleed, and SubhanAllah.
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته Please elaborate أخي جزاك اللهُ خيراً
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abu mohammed
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Posted on 24th November 2010 21:34 The Prophet(SAW) had commented to Kalid bin Waleeds brother that, Allah Almighty would surely one day bring Khalid bin Waleed to the Prophet(SAW) to embrace Islam. It was not possible that his intelligent, perspective and able brother should be deprived of the blessings of Allah Almighty and Islam. This was just a thought that came to my mind instantly, it is not a comment for any one. Intelligence, able brother, deprived. Just a thought. May Allah have mercy on us all and guide us all to the Siratul Mustaqeem. Like I said, it was just a thought not an opinion on any one.
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abu mohammed
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Posted on 9th December 2010 12:09 Excellent book for study. Download the pdf. Please note, although the book is on this site, kalamullah, it does not mena that every book on there is correct. there are some dodgy ones too.
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abu mohammed
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Posted on 9th December 2010 12:37 www.kalamullah.com/Books/Fiqh%20Al-Imam.pdf www.kalamullah.com/Books/The%20Salah%20of%20a%20Believer.pdf
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abu mohammed
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Posted on 5th January 2011 21:25 Quote:
muslim wrote on 05/01/2011:
u people r playing with fire This is what one would say to a fireman. But what is the fireman really doing?
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Muadh_Khan
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Posted on 9th January 2011 08:40 QUOTE ----------- Issue 3: Was Shaykh Abdullah Ibn Abi Mubarak (RA) a Hanafi or a Maliki?
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?12869-Condemnation-of-Abu-Hanifa-by-Salafis-ANSWERED! ...that the statement of Abdullah bin Mubarak where he said: “Abu Haneefah is miskeen in hadith,” in no way implies that Imam Abu Haneefah had very little knowledge in the science of hadith. Rather, being miskeen in hadith refers to the fact that Imam Abu Haneefah's focus was not directed towards relating many turuq (chain of narrators) when narrating a hadith as is the habit of those muhadditheen who have devoted themselves solely for the transmitting of hadith. The one thing for sure is that Shaykh Abdullah Ibn Abi Mubarak (RA) had great opinion about Imam Al-Adham Abu Haneefa (RA) and he DID NOT retract his views until death came to him. Mujtahid Imams could disagree with Imam Al-Adham Abu Haneefa (RA) even his illustrious students like Imam Abu Yusuf (RA) or Imam Muhammad (RA) did but the points which are being highlighted are two:
Once you agree with points 1 & 2 then there is no problem with a layman following one of the greatest Salaf since he/she is incapable of Ijtehaad. Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) is not only Salaf but one of the greatest and Qur'aan & Sunnah command me to follow Salaf which I am doing. Salaf disagreed with each other (based on daleel) so I have no problems Imam Malik Ibn Anas (RA) and his opinions and his Madhab. In case of Raf Al-Yadain both of the greatest of the Salafs i.e. Imam Al-Adham Abu Haneefa (RA) & Imam Darul-Hijrah Malik Ibn Anas (RA) and their Madhabs agree on the matter, simply saying that these two great Salafs agree means that there are bound to be some from the Salaf who disagreed with them and again that’s fine. The fact of the matter is that this is an issue of disagreement amongst Salaf and we accept that and follow the Salaf and have our daleel but as per the history of the Muslim Ummah we neither censor nor disrespect the position of Imam Ash-Shaf’ae (RA) & Imam Ahmed Ibn Hanbal (RA)and we will discuss this later (if there is a need) on the specific issue. Jazakullah Khairun ---------------------- END QUOTE Asslamo Allaikum, I asked respected Ulama of South Africa to research this statement and find the original quote in Arabic and here it is and this works against Salafees and I will produce the original as-is: وتقريب المسالك - (ج 1 / ص 101)
Basically in this section of the book there is a small biography of the great Imam of Hadeeth Shaykh Abdullah Ibn Abi Mubarak (RA) and if the statement of Imam Shirazi (RA) is taken as Authentic then it would simply mean as we pointed out earlier that one of the greatest Imams of Hadeeth i.e. Shaykh Abdullah Ibn Abi Mubarak (RA) adopted the Fiqh (the word in Arabic is Tafaqahu) of Imam Malik & Sufyan At-Thawri (RA). So assuming that the historical account of Imam Shirazi is accurate it would mean:
This is a very serious and damning indictment of those who reject Madhabs because one of the greatest Imams of Hadeeth went from making Taqleed of one Imam to another Imam and he didn't go "free-lancing" and starting picking and choosing! Anyone with a basic understanding of Arabic language can tell what is clearly written by Imam Shirazi (RA) and the rest of the quote is about the high rank of this noble Imam in Hadeeth. Jazakullah Khairun for Ulama of South Africa in locating and providing the original text and may Allah (SWT) reward them for their efforts in this life and the next (Ameen).
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Muadh_Khan
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Posted on 10th January 2011 15:46 Issue 3: Was Shaykh Abdullah Ibn Abi Mubarak (RA) a Hanafi or a Maliki?
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?12869-Condemnation-of-Abu-Hanifa-by-Salafis-ANSWERED! ...that the statement of Abdullah bin Mubarak where he said: “Abu Haneefah is miskeen in hadith,” in no way implies that Imam Abu Haneefah had very little knowledge in the science of hadith. Rather, being miskeen in hadith refers to the fact that Imam Abu Haneefah's focus was not directed towards relating many turuq (chain of narrators) when narrating a hadith as is the habit of those muhadditheen who have devoted themselves solely for the transmitting of hadith. The one thing for sure is that Shaykh Abdullah Ibn Abi Mubarak (RA) had great opinion about Imam Al-Adham Abu Haneefa (RA) and he DID NOT retract his views until death came to him. Mujtahid Imams could disagree with Imam Al-Adham Abu Haneefa (RA) even his illustrious students like Imam Abu Yusuf (RA) or Imam Muhammad (RA) did but the points which are being highlighted are two:
Once you agree with points 1 & 2 then there is no problem with a layman following one of the greatest Salaf since he/she is incapable of Ijtehaad. Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) is not only Salaf but one of the greatest and Qur'aan & Sunnah command me to follow Salaf which I am doing. Salaf disagreed with each other (based on daleel) so I have no problems Imam Malik Ibn Anas (RA) and his opinions and his Madhab. In case of Raf Al-Yadain both of the greatest of the Salafs i.e. Imam Al-Adham Abu Haneefa (RA) & Imam Darul-Hijrah Malik Ibn Anas (RA) and their Madhabs agree on the matter, simply saying that these two great Salafs agree means that there are bound to be some from the Salaf who disagreed with them and again that’s fine. The fact of the matter is that this is an issue of disagreement amongst Salaf and we accept that and follow the Salaf and have our daleel but as per the history of the Muslim Ummah we neither censor nor disrespect the position of Imam Ash-Shaf’ae (RA) & Imam Ahmed Ibn Hanbal (RA)and we will discuss this later (if there is a need) on the specific issue. Jazakullah Khairun Asslamo Allaikum, I asked respected Ulama of South Africa to research this statement and find the original quote in Arabic and here it is and this works against Salafees and I will produce the original as-is: وتقريب المسالك - (ج 1 / ص 101)
Basically in this section of the book there is a small biography of the great Imam of Hadeeth Shaykh Abdullah Ibn Abi Mubarak (RA) and if the statement of Imam Shirazi (RA) is taken as Authentic then it would simply mean as we pointed out earlier that one of the greatest Imams of Hadeeth i.e. Shaykh Abdullah Ibn Abi Mubarak (RA) adopted the Fiqh (the word in Arabic is Tafaqahu) of Imam Malik & Sufyan At-Thawri (RA). So assuming that the historical account of Imam Shirazi is accurate it would mean:
This is a very serious and damning indictment of those who reject Madhabs because one of the greatest Imams of Hadeeth went from making Taqleed of one Imam to another Imam and he didn't go "free-lancing" and starting picking and choosing! Anyone with a basic understanding of Arabic language can tell what is clearly written by Imam Shirazi (RA) and the rest of the quote is about the high rank of this noble Imam in Hadeeth. Jazakullah Khairun for Ulama of South Africa in locating and providing the original text and may Allah (SWT) reward them for their efforts in this life and the next (Ameen).[/quote] Asslamo Allaikum All, In addition...I am pretty sure that the person posting this objection has NEVER read the book itself because in the same book there is a section called, "Akhbar Abi Haneefa (RA) Wa Ashaab (The news of Abu Haneefa (RA) and his companions" and it says in this section: قال سعيد بن منصور قال سمعت فضيل بن عياض يقول كان أبو حنيفة معروفا بكثرة الأفضال وقلة الكلام وإكرام العلم وأهله Saeed bin Mansoor (RA) says that he heard Fudhail bin Ayyadh (RA) say, "Abu Haneefa (RA) was well known for a great number of virtues, minimal speech and honouring of knowledge and those who are associated with it" Maulana Yasin Saheb (HA) is requested to correct my shody translation. Jazakullah Khairun
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abu mohammed
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Posted on 11th January 2011 19:02
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Posted on 18th January 2011 21:21
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