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#46 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2017 11:38

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These are members of the committee, not the witnesses who sighted the Moon. There are Masha’Allah committees operating around the world so what do we do as British Muslims…Random googling and take testimonies?

Let Muslims do whatever they do in their countries.

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#47 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2017 11:41
Eid on Monday in Australia because Moon has been sighted.

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#48 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2017 12:37
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i see. so basically they haven't provided enough information for it to be acceptable in the hanafi madhab for those who are in other countries?
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#49 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2017 12:56

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Two points:

  1. We have no information about the system of Moon Sigting in Nigeria. In the past they have made multiple errors where they were 2-3 days off the rest of the world.
  2. We have no information on the actual sighting of last night. No idea who sighted it, where and how.

We cannot simply google and pick up countries where sighting has occured, there has to be some reason for it.

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#50 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2017 13:06
Bismillah
I have question regarding moon sighting in India.
Every year I see people of Kerala sight the moon when rest of the states do not. May be people of Mangalore too see.
Do every state celebrate based on seeing the moon in its own state without considering the neighboring state? Or can it based on one state and the whole India celebrates? If so why we do not follow Muslims of Kerala? If anyone who has knowledge about this, kindly share.
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#51 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2017 13:24

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Traditionally, the office of Qadha (Court) in India was setup and run at various geographical locations throughout India.

A Qadhi (judge) made decisions for villages under his jurisdiction. Even after partition this practise has continued and that’s why you have Qadhees in Bihar, Gujarat, Bathkaal and so on.

In Pakistan this was abolished except for Peshawar where since 1830’s the office of Qadha (Court) has remained. This location (ONE MASJID) is the ONLY PLACE in Pakistan which causes enamours problems and it is a butt of jokes in Pakistani Media , rest of Pakistan has evolved and works under a single (National) Moon Sighting committee.

Most Muslim countries do and they fund their National committee.

India is not a Muslim country and there is no National funding or coordination so the regional Qadha (Court) system in operation for hundreds of years has simply continued.

In addition, India has a natural problem that it is much larger then Pakistan and Moon Sighting (visibility) naturally splits South and North (due to technical reasons) so Moon can be seen in the South and not in the North and vice-versa

Hence India continues on its path of multiple committees but I agree that they should cooperate.

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#52 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2017 14:49

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even 4 days difference! (though recent years they have improved somewhat...but still, imho, unreliable)....

allafrica.com/stories/201606030510.html

2005 : "In Nigeria, according to him the majority of the Muslims started their fasting on Monday Oct. 3 while some also started on Sunday, Oct. 2. While the Muslims in Saudi Arabia, Middle East started on Tuesday October 4; the Muslims in Australia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, Turkey, Africa, Europe, Americas started on Wednesday October, 5 and the Muslims in Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, Central Asia began the 2015 fast on Thursday Oct. 6.

 

2005: "Eid al-Fitr celebrated on the same pattern of four different days/dates across the globe; Nov. 2 Wed: Nigeria, Libya Nov. 3 Thurs.: S. Arabia, M East, Indonesia, EU, USA (ISNA) Nov. 4 Friday: S. Africa, UK, Canada, USA, India, Pakistan Nov. 5 Saturday: Northern India, etc.

 

 

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#53 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2017 15:41

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Patna was cloudy and Moon was not sighted so Qadha of Bihar (oldest and most established) made a statement that they will accept the Qadha of other Indian institutes and celebrate Eid tomorrow.

I have the statement so progress is being made.

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#54 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2017 15:41
Moon sighted in India so Eid on Monday

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#55 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2017 15:42
Moon sighted in Pakistan so Eid on Monday

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#56 [Permalink] Posted on 29th June 2017 08:12
Saudi Moon Sighting is FAKE!

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