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#151 [Permalink] Posted on 12th January 2019 18:29
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#152 [Permalink] Posted on 12th January 2019 18:35
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Moving in tablighi jamaath for men itself is Mubah umoor (desirable act), it is not even sunnah, then where is validity of ladies leaving their homes for mubah umoor.
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#153 [Permalink] Posted on 12th January 2019 18:42
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السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته

They can't travel anywhere else (apart from what you mentioned) at all? With a mahram of course.
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#154 [Permalink] Posted on 12th January 2019 18:52

Please only post relevant issues to the current topic, otherwise please start a new topic. Jazakumullah
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#155 [Permalink] Posted on 12th January 2019 23:29
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I kind of know what you mean about the repeats of reading a sabak, but there are a few advantages of this. For example, they pick up pace better yet maintain better quality of reciting, they are able to memorize parts of it making future reading easier and one of the most beautiful things is that by repeating their sabak 5 times, they are rewarded 5 times more per letter - so don't take that away from them.


This is my observation from listening to one child in haftee from the UK. Many more subjects need to be tested to draw a definite conclusion.

I learnt that she is never taught by a male teacher, where as I am accustomed to all children being taught by males until they finish Quran or reach 9/10 years old. They say women can't read as good as men so girls should finish Quran by males.

I learnt that they are all taught new sabak as a class in a group whereas I am accumstomed to each child being taught separately as each is at a different place.

In both maktabs sabaks is listened too individually.

I learnt that in the UK maktab they are also taught urdu while in haftee. They should be learning Arabic instead, or being connected to the explanation of the Quran in some way, and then feel free to teach Urdu if there is time.

She has to learn sabak 10 times at home, so yes she reads her past sabak extremely quickly. I suspect this is what leads to very quick recitation, as this becomes a habit. You read it very quickly as you want to finish reading it 10 times quickly so you aren't punished. Then you get accustomed reading very fast. While reading her previous sabak quickly she is making many carless mistakes. She also isn't really reading the old sabak, rather she is kinda saying parts of it from memory as she read it so many times.

When told to read from a juz she hasn't learnt yet, she said she can't read it she hasn't learnt it. That does not make sense as once you have read a couple juz , you should now be able to read from anywhere in the Quran, albeit slowly. Fluency insha Allah will come with each Quran completion.

She tries to read the new pages but she is trying to read too fast so she can't get it read.


Yes the child from the UK maktab can continue reading a few words by heart if the Quran is closed mid sentence, so perhaps there is some benefit in assisting with memorization. But she can't complete the ayah.

With regards to the extra blessings, it depends on if the child is seeing it as a chore to read it 10 times, and if they are rushing thought it and being careless.
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#156 [Permalink] Posted on 13th January 2019 06:48
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That is your personal experience.

But in general, we have positive experiences about these maktabs. The system is evolved after considering previous experiences over a period. We are satisfied with the output.
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#157 [Permalink] Posted on 13th January 2019 07:01
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This is my report for the similar method of teaching you have negative experience. My children read quran with best tajweed. They have memorized major surah and last juz, of course with tajweed. They know basic fiqh.

They were never taught urdu in the school education. But Alhamdulillah, thumma Alhamdulillah they read urdu deeni books fluently, which is a remarkable achievement for me. Because all our deeni books originally are in Urdu, There are limitations in translations in English.

Shaykh Ali Mian Nadvi RA had repeatedly emphasized on teaching urdu to our children in sub-continent and there are lengthy lectures on that.
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#158 [Permalink] Posted on 13th January 2019 07:03
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That is the fatwah by ulema, they can't even come out of their homes. Yes, you have the right to ignore that fatwah. But ulema are not withdrawing that fatwah.
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#159 [Permalink] Posted on 13th January 2019 17:32
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Because all our deeni books originally are in Urdu, There are limitations in translations in English.

Shaykh Ali Mian Nadvi RA had repeatedly emphasized on teaching urdu to our children in sub-continent and there are lengthy lectures on that.


I wouldn't expect those who plan to stay in the subcontinent to rely on English translations as opposed to Urdu. I would still like for them to be exposed to the Arabic language.
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#160 [Permalink] Posted on 13th January 2019 17:39
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Alhamdulilah. Once there is a good system and a proper syllabus is adhered too that is great. If possible, starting from young, I would like to see a system where 'school' and 'maktab' are combined, and equal emphasis is placed on all of the subjects.
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