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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2013 09:56


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The Halal Food Festival is the world's largest halal consumer food show, showcasing innovative halal products, high end restaurants, live demo kitchen, cooking school, with world renowned chefs, and halal mocktails! Come on Haloodies, let your taste buds go wild! Come visit us!


Wow, a MASSIVE Halal Food Festival in London's Excel Centre. Taste buds watering already?

Lets all go and eat Halal food,
They are accredited by the HFA


So now what?
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2013 10:16
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So now what?


BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT

Email them, phone them, write to them, tweet it, facebook it. Do what ever you can and tell them why you want to boycott the event even if you weren't going to attend.

Make it clear that the ONLY reason for the Boycott is that its HFA accredited.
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2013 10:39
Email sent by Hackney Muslims Group
Email sent by us (muftisays.com)
Email sent by rizmalek
Email sent by Abu Mohammed
Email sent by Muadh_Khan

Message included praise for work on Halal food and its importance
Showing that we won't support it and we will save others from it IF it's sponsored by the HFA.

Please use the contact details below to show your concerns and if they reply, please post it here.

HFA care about certification, they really care......... they just don't care about Halal



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Email: noman@halalfoodfestival.com
Telephone: +44 (0)203 475 5225
Mobile: +44 (0)7947 634 484


Registered Address
Halal Events Ltd
Suite 36
88-90 Hatton Garden
London
EC1N 8PG
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2013 10:49

Asslamo Allaikum,

When in DOUBT leave it OUT!

That's the Sunnah.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2013 11:17
This was an email reply to someone concerned about HFA. The initial email started with questions as to why HFA was not always Halal.

I replied to the email with some major points taken from the then HFA website. However, HFA have sinced changed their website and re worded it.

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Salaam,

The animal must be sacrificed by a Muslim.
The animal must be fit and healthy.
The animal must NOT be shown the knife it is about to be slaughtered by.
The blade must be kept sharp at all times for a swift cut.
Each animal is slaughtered with its individual Takbeer.
No animal must be slaughtered in front of another (i think). Confirmed at the end of the Video

HFA.
They also say the above, but:
they mass slaughter, i.e. they place all the animals in a row and pass them through the machines.
They also say that a man can pray the takbeer 1500 times an hour, so they get 2-3 muslim men to just stand there and say the takbeer, therefore covering all the animals and not praying over each individual animal. HARD TO BELIEVE. heres the proof www.halalfoodauthority.co.uk/zibah-definition.html copied & pasted below (point 6)
They also say that if an animal is missed, then these are slaughtered by the muslim men on site. This means that the animal gets cut by the machine but does not die and is badly injured.

According to the Ulama, in this case of mass slaughter, only the first animal is Halal because the takbeer was said to it as an individual.

People say that if mass slaughter techniques were available in the time of the Prophet, then he would use it. This is wrong because the Prophet never showed any cruelty to any animal, therefore the above mentioned methods are used.

www.halalfoodauthority.co.uk/zibah-definition.html they contradict point 4.
6. Whence slaughtering is carried out in a mechanised plant, say for, poultry slaughtering, because of expediency of machinery and fixed blade operation, licensed Muslim slaughterman/men should be present to do the rendition of shahada. Number of slaughtermen depends on the speed of the machine/line. Generally it is accepted that a healthy young male can recite shahada approximately fifteen hundred times per hour. It is therefore, suggested that we have 2-3 Muslim slaughtermen at the slaughtering station/s of medium abattoirs. These slaughtermen would also slaughter with full recitation of shahada any bird/animal that are missed by the machine.
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2013 11:30
Latest definition on thier newest website.

SubhanAllah www.halalfoodauthority.co.uk/definition-of-halal/

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Definition of Halal

The word 'halal' literally means permissible- and in translation it is usually used as lawful.

The Halal food Authority rules for halal are based on Islamic Shari'ah. Opposite to halal is haram, which means unlawful or forbidden.

It is well known in the meat trade that Muslims consume halal meat. However, at times questions are asked, what is halal? In Arabic it simply means permissible or allowed. Opposite to it is haram, which means forbidden or not allowed. Arabic is the language of Qur`an, a scripture revealed to the Holy Prophet of Islam by the Almighty Allah to be followed in its entirety by the Muslims.

Now to make meat halal or permissible, an animal or poultry has to be slaughtered in a ritual way known as Zibah or Zabihah. To make it readily comprehended halal is somewhat like Jewish kosher and, Zibah is with some exception similar to Shechita. The Qur`an gives following underlined injunctions in chapter al-Maida 5:3 that
Zabihah require animals to be alive and healthy at the time of slaughter, since carrion is forbidden and, jugular vein, carotid artery and windpipe have to be severed by a razor sharp knife by a single swipe, to incur as less a pain as possible. Here the only difference is that a rabbi will read what is required by his faith and, a Muslim will recite tasmiya or shahada, which fulfills the requirement of dedication. The question of how to overcome the issue of recitation of shahada on individual bird whence we now have poultry being slaughtered at a rate of six to nine thousand per hour, has already been addressed. A Muslim is commanded to commence all his deeds in the name of Allah.
All the flowing blood (al- An`am 6:145) must be drained out of the carcass, as blood is forbidden
Swine flesh is also forbidden, and it is repeated in few other places in the Qur`an
Forbidden is an animal that has been killed by strangling or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall


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The question of how to overcome the issue of recitation of shahada on individual bird whence we now have poultry being slaughtered at a rate of six to nine thousand per hour, has already been addressed. A Muslim is commanded to commence all his deeds in the name of Allah.

InshaAllah I will try and find out where this has already been addressed and how they can justify it.

Its not in here www.halalfoodauthority.co.uk/HFA%20Brief%20Guidlines%20fo...
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2013 11:52

 

Halal Food Authority (Press release some time ago)

Halal Food Foundation Ltd t/a Halal Food Authority | Company Registered in England & Wales. No: 6225876

109 Fulham Palace Rd, London W6 8JA | Tel: 020 8563 1994, Fax: 020 8563 1993

Email: info@halalfoodauthority.co.uk, Website: www.halalfoodauthority.com

Taking into consideration the growing trade of halal foods, the Ulemas’ also said that there was

no need for us to further investigate the word halal. They said that there was infact a dire need

for Muslims to establish manufacturing facilities for halal foodstuffs, abattoirs and cutting

plants so that Muslim entrepreneurs could benefit from the 85-90% of the halal trade that is

currently being served by non-Muslims. In doing so it would always be possible that any

foodstuff or meat or poultry items that are available would be of halal origin and permissible

from every point of view of Islamic Shari’ah and dietary rules.

Mufti Barakatullah

Maulana Mohammed Ovaisi

Dr. Abdul Wahhab

Allama Shahid Raza Naimi

 

So now we know who their Ulama are, well at least some of them because there are other contraversial names involved too.

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2013 12:23

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Halal Food Authority (Press release some time ago)

Halal Food Foundation Ltd t/a Halal Food Authority | Company Registered in England & Wales. No: 6225876

109 Fulham Palace Rd, London W6 8JA | Tel: 020 8563 1994, Fax: 020 8563 1993

Email: info@halalfoodauthority.co.uk, Website: www.halalfoodauthority.com

Taking into consideration the growing trade of halal foods, the Ulemas’ also said that there was

no need for us to further investigate the word halal. They said that there was infact a dire need

for Muslims to establish manufacturing facilities for halal foodstuffs, abattoirs and cutting

plants so that Muslim entrepreneurs could benefit from the 85-90% of the halal trade that is

currently being served by non-Muslims. In doing so it would always be possible that any

foodstuff or meat or poultry items that are available would be of halal origin and permissible

from every point of view of Islamic Shari’ah and dietary rules.

Mufti Barakatullah

Maulana Mohammed Ovaisi

Dr. Abdul Wahhab

Allama Shahid Raza Naimi

 

So now we know who their Ulama are, well at least some of them because there are other contraversial names involved too.

Is this a press release in English? Makes no sense can someone translate the following into English from the above press release?

  1. Ulemas’ also said that there wasno need for us to further investigate the word halal
  2. They said that there was infact a dire needfor Muslims to establish manufacturing facilities for halal foodstuffs...
  3. 85-90% of the halal trade that iscurrently being served by non-Muslims...
  4. any foodstuff or meat or poultry items that are available would be of halal origin and permissiblefrom every point of view of Islamic Shari’ah and dietary rules...

What in the world???

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2013 14:15
On the new website too...... (as mentioned above)

www.halalfoodauthority.com/definition-zibah/

6. Whence slaughtering is carried out in a mechanised plant, say for, poultry slaughtering, because of expediency of machinery and fixed blade operation, licensed Muslim slaughterman/men should be present to do the rendition of shahada. Number of slaughtermen depends on the speed of the machine/line. Generally it is accepted that a healthy young male can recite shahada approximately fifteen hundred times per hour. It is therefore, suggested that we have 2-3 Muslim slaughtermen at the slaughtering station/s of medium abattoirs. These slaughtermen would also slaughter with full recitation of shahada any bird/animal that are missed by the machine.

Now lets do the maths if, for arguments sake they, they protested.

Point 6 says 2 or 3 men. Lets take 3. Now 3 men can recite the tasbeeh 1500 times non stop. So that would make it 4500 tasbeehs. But here www.halalfoodauthority.co.uk/definition-of-halal/ they say 6000 to 9000 chickens an hour. So in their own words and definition of this pathetic method, half of their chickensa are HARAM by their own books.

(I cant stand LOL, but this calls for a huge one)
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 21st February 2013 16:42

MCB (Muslim Council of Britain) talks about Boycott.

 

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd February 2013 20:57
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We are demanding that the Food Standards Agency and all local authorities to adopt it's own 'Guidance note on halal food issues' as issued by Ms Sarah Appleby, Head of Enforcement and Local Authority Delivery Division.
The Food Standards Agency issued guidance for Local Authority enforcement officers in February 2003, and then reissued on 29 September 2010. Stating:

The mislabelling and misrepresentation of Halal foods is of great importance to the Muslim Community, and continues to be an issue of concern. For this reason we are re-issuing the advice drawn up in association with relevant Muslim organisations, LGR and Defra.
Food enforcement officers are requested to: Use this advice when planning inspections, food sampling and labelling checks relating to Halal foods Take appropriate enforcement action.

HFA president Khawaja Masood told MeatInfo.co.uk the media was making a "mountain out of a molehill" as it was only traces of pork DNA found in the products. He said: "It is not the case of an ingredient, rather a case of DNA being found.
PLEASE NOTE
As a result a boycott of all HFA certified products with immediate affect by various religious authorities has been announced.
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 5th March 2013 12:48
Has anyone received any replies from the these people.

It seems like they too are in it for the fame, name and money.
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 5th March 2013 13:05

"abu mohammed" wrote:
Has anyone received any replies from the these people. It seems like they too are in it for the fame, name and money.

No response.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 5th March 2013 15:22

"abu mohammed" wrote:
Has anyone received any replies from the these people. It seems like they too are in it for the fame, name and money.

No response here either

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 20th March 2013 12:40
Did you know that the Halal Food Festival is being organised by the son of Masood Khawaja president of the HFA. His full name is Noman Khawaja. And the event is being organised with the HFA?

This is all a mess. The rest you will have figured out!
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