The Road to Spiritual Reformation

#16 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2019 15:58

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Today spiritual status of Arabs is much much higher than ajams. True. But in general masses are on downward slope. And there is no general reformation process for masses.
Ajams are getting reformed through non-state independent self sponsored citizens. And results are visible. Slope is upward.

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2019 16:02

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An Arab scholar was requested to offer his services for reformation of masses around him.
He said "who will pay for that".
And in ajam; scholars poorly paid, 1/100th of what arab scholars are paid in their country, and masha Allah they volunteer to do additional service for deen without any compensation.

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2019 16:04

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ok, i believe you.

may allah grant us all that uplift we need to surrender to his shariah and practise living lives in accordance to this/His divine law as shown by his messenger (saw)

and preserved, taught and demonstrated as per the ulema of haq not cranked/cartoon/ scholars who make up stuff in the deen based on spurious and wacky interpretations of qur'anic verses regardless of the fact whether their niyah is sincere or not.

ameen

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2019 16:06

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hilarious

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2019 16:10

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Arab scholars have declared music to be halal, mixing of genders to be valid. And they are referring to quran to sunnah. Did the ajams do that.

You may not agree with sufism, but we know the results. It is not only about niyyah, we stand witness to results. Arabs reject results got through dhaeef ahadith. Then bring change in their places through saheeh ahadith.
If sufism or tabligh is wrong, then bring change through alternate authentic methods. Ajams will also follow them. Masses will force them to follow the arabs.

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2019 16:36

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i'm not against it, it's not end all and be all - that's the point.

deos and barelos are hell bent in echoing sentiments of the classical deo and barelo scholars and get butt hurt when you plant doubt in their minds. there plenty of muslims who're alien to this concept and alhamdulillah it's very apparent that their deen is on on a different plane of spirituality.

i do agree that arabis have abandoned the ways of the true salah saliheen, but in my opinion and limited observation when it comes to embracing the sunnah with two hands, they're as sincere as anyone else. what your referring to is more at the arab leaders in power. ultimately only Allah knows best

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2019 16:41

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I am requesting whether an equivalent reformation process available in arab world to sufism or tabligh. And it is through authentic sources. We feel absolute necessity in arab world for these type of movements.

It is not only arab leaders, news coming from general masses is also very bad. They are looking at the west to grow. Abandoning Islam, Islam is getting extra baggage for them.

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2019 16:55

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the formula, key, solution - call it whatever you want is in the words of Rasulullah himself.

- always remember your sins and blessings before you go to sleep, have you wronged anyone, what sins have you committed, have you asked for forgiveness? what optional ibadah did you miss out of laziness?
- always remember the akirah before you go to sleep
- always remember the sacrifice Rasulullah went through
- study the seerah of Rasulullah
- refrain all major and minor sins

and you'll be on your way, there will slips here and there as we're insaan, the deos and barelos seem to think all that's well and good, and place a bridge between the means and the end result (al-firdaus), this spiritual mechanism (tassawwuf), if you abandon this then you're at risk i.e. you may make it to Jannah or not. that's plainly and simply not true.

tassawwuf and tablighs are spirtual mechanism that can work and do work, has done for many, but one can and has found their way.

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2019 17:01

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You have the formula. But do the masses need that, do they feel the necessity. Who will sell this to them. Rather how is it sold to masses in arab world. Sell it through a mechanism authenticated through quran and sahih ahadith. I need feedback on that.

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2019 17:31

Let us prioritise:
Locals watching movies inside masjid nabvi
Or
Bidah of deobandees.

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 27th November 2019 03:28

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Deobandees say stop the downward slope, even if it requires using dhaeef ahadeeth or even bidah. Saving Imaan is the priority.

Arabs say (their body language), Authentic only.
then what about muslims leaving Imaan?
it is their business, we are not concerned about that.

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We are pleased your heart has become illuminated, and your heart is filled with noor free from defects.And you have reached the state of Ihsaan.

Others like us are not so fortunate therefore we may require the guidance of a Shaykh.

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 7th March 2020 08:09

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The author of this book passed away last Friday in the masjid immediately after jumuah salah while the imam was still making the dua. He just leaned to one side and was gone instantly. No difficulty at all. He used to make zikr every day from fajr to ishraq and asr to maghrib for over 30 years. He was the first Khalifa of our Shaykh. May Allah have mercy on him.

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