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#181 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2020 18:31
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They're suspicious of his motives behind pushing vaccines so aggressively. One of the points of contention is that Bill Gates has been known to publicly express the idea that the world's problems are due to overpopulation and that depopulation is the best solution to it. So why would a man who is in favor of depopulation actually push for vaccines? Vaccines would SAVE lives which wouldn't decrease the population.
On the other hand, those who aren't suspicious of his motives believe it would be near impossible to pull off an evil scheme like killing millions via vaccines without someone somewhere down the chain of command blowing the whole thing open.
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#182 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2020 18:34
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He hasn't said that, you are mistaken. You can give me links of YouTube in response but it is not what he is saying.
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#183 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2020 19:40
WHO official says she suspected human-to-human transmission 'right from the start' - but the WHO repeated China's lies for weeks saying the opposite

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14 April 2020

A World Heath Organization official said that she suspected human-to-human transmission of the coronavirus "right from the start," a claim that runs counter to the guidance that the organization was giving to the rest of the world during the early moments of the pandemic.

The WHO has been heavily criticized by the Trump administration and others for repeating China's lies since the start of the pandemic as the Chinese Communist Party attempted to cover up the extent of the outbreak.

"Right from the start, from the first notification we received on the 31st of December, given that this was a cluster of pneumonia — I'm a MERS specialist, so my background is in coronaviruses and influenza — so immediately thought, given that this is a respiratory pathogen, that of course there may be human-to-human transmission," Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove said Monday during a WHO press briefing.

That wasn't the WHO's story in January
If Dr. Kerkhove truly was confident that COVID-19 would spread through human-to-human transmission "right from the start" as she now claims, then the WHO had a funny way of disseminating that information.

On Jan. 12 — nearly two weeks after being notified about the outbreak — a WHO news release assured that "based on the preliminary information from the Chinese investigation team, no evidence of significant human-to-human transmission and no health care worker infections have been reported."

"At this stage, there is no infection among healthcare workers, and no clear evidence of human to human transmission," the news release added.

The day after, on Jan. 13, the WHO doubled down on the claim, and then on Jan. 14, they tripled down on it.

There were warning signs in December
Reports that the virus was spreading among Wuhan health care workers were already being circulated late last year. In December, doctors in Taiwan reportedly learned from colleagues in mainland China that medical workers were contracting the disease — which is a significant indicator of human-to-human transmission.

Additionally, an early study published in the Lancet on Jan. 2 found that only 27 of the 41 confirmed coronavirus cases in Wuhan had connections to the wet market where the virus purportedly started (though that claim is also highly dubious).

The Chinese Communist Party was attempting to control the information, however. Chinese citizen journalists and doctors, such as Li Wenliang and Ai Fen, who were attempting expose the truth about the highly contagious disease were reprimanded and silenced, and some even went missing.

Yet despite China's suspicious censorship activity and compounding evidence that human-to-human transmission had begun, the WHO joined China in misleading the global community for weeks about the virus. Taiwanese officials even alerted the WHO about the human-to-human spread, but they were ignored.

The Daily Caller notes that "by the time the WHO acknowledged evidence of human-to-human transmission, which they did on Jan. 22, the U.S. had already detected its first coronavirus case."

So why did the WHO "run interference" for China? Here's one possible reason.
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#184 [Permalink] Posted on 15th April 2020 04:32
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One of the points of contention is that Bill Gates has been known to publicly express the idea that the world's problems are due to overpopulation and that depopulation is the best solution to it.


This is blatant misrepresentation.
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#185 [Permalink] Posted on 15th April 2020 07:57
youtu.be/6Af6b_wyiwI

Bill Gates in 2015 promoting his idea for preparing for a global epidemic (of course not a place to mention population control if that is his idea)
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#186 [Permalink] Posted on 15th April 2020 10:21

Labour’s most senior elected official spread a conspiracy theory that Boris Johnson did not have coronavirus, The Independent can reveal.

Andi Fox, who chairs Labour’s powerful ruling body, retweeted a claim the prime minister had not been suffering from Covid-19 and that doctors had been forced to hush up his true condition.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-boris-...

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#187 [Permalink] Posted on 15th April 2020 11:17
My son's hospital appointments were cancelled. My other son's physiotherapy was cancelled. My daughter's hospital appointment was cancelled. Reason given was that hospitals are overwhelmed due to the virus. Even my son's physiotherapist was taken off her normal work and reassigned to the main hospital due to Covid 19.

I took a drive to our main hospital. It seemed more empty than normal. No extra activity. Ambulances were parked up when before the pandemic the ambulances were constantly in use. There were actually car parking spaces when before it would take up to half an hour to get parking space. I took a video.

People are reporting that hospitals in their areas are the same. Relatively empty. People

What's it like in your area?

People are tweeting.

mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/EmptyHospitals?src=hashtag_click

mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/filmyourhospital?src=hashtag_c...

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#188 [Permalink] Posted on 15th April 2020 11:29
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Because nobody is supposed to go to the Hospital unless it is an emergency.
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#189 [Permalink] Posted on 15th April 2020 11:54
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True. But point is at least in bradford the NHS doesn't seem overwhelmed, but they are acting like it is.

Also saw somewhere that Bradford have around 35 cases per 100,000 and the national average is around 70 per 100,000. I had a link to the figures, but can't seem to find it.

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#190 [Permalink] Posted on 15th April 2020 11:58
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NHS is nationally managed and funded and depending on how many ICU beds you have in your Hospital and ventilators it could be overwhelmed from that perspective but not in other departments etc

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274
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#191 [Permalink] Posted on 15th April 2020 12:36
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If they allowed normal patients in, they will be putting their lives as well as the lives of the medical staff in danger.

It's better for them.

Just look at what MRSA does when a visitor or patient is in the hospital for a short period. Covid-19 is worse than MRSA by a huge margin
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#192 [Permalink] Posted on 16th April 2020 00:51
Trump today "doubled down" on his claim that he can do whatever he wants in regards to state powers and the "opening" of the country. (He can't according to the US Constitution)

Today he also threatened to shut down the congress (emergency powers) to get some of his political appointees through. Using the argument that they are needed for the coronavirus threat and reopening of the economy. I think there might be one appointee held up in congress that is even remotely connected to the situation. (He possibly can do this)
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#193 [Permalink] Posted on 16th April 2020 14:16
Chinese Lab Coronavirus Theory: Virus Intentionally Created But Accidentally Released Says Report

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16 April 2020

Where does Coronavirus or SARS-CoV-2 come from? The United States of America (USA) has recently found an interesting theory of the real origin of the deadly virus.

Report of Fox News allegedly reveals that a particular lab in Wuhan, China was the first one to create the virus. Unfortunately, Patient Zero-- which was the first person to acquire Coronavirus-- turned out to be working on the same lab and started the spread in the region and the whole world. The U.S. now demands accountability from China.

U.S. demands an explanation from China after revealed Chinese lab COVID-19 theory

As first reported via Fox News, the Secretary of U.S. State Mike Pompeo said on Wednesday, Apr. 15, the country is now demanding China to 'come clean' and account for their real connection with the spread of the virus.

It turns out that China seemed to be the ones that created the virus, after all. Fox News revealed that SARS-CoV-2 initially came from a bat. However, a particular Chinese lab in Wuhan called Wuhan Institute of Virology allegedly studied to recreate the virus. Interestingly, Patient Zero-- which was the first case of Coronavirus in the world-- worked on the same lab and possibly got expose to the virus, resulting in him to spread out the virus, causing a pandemic unintentionally.

The news agency even called the Coronavirus outbreak as China's "costliest government cover up of all time."

Report: China's creation of the virus is not for bioweapon but only to compete with the U.S.
Unlike the original theories that China may have intentionally released the virus to be used as a bioweapon against rival countries, Fox News reiterated that the country did not aim to use the virus for this purpose.

It was found that China might create the deadly virus to compete against America's combating skills with viruses-- for them to be "equal or more than the U.S."

Associated Press also reported that China didn't warn the public about the virus within the first six days of its spread. Experts claim that if only the country announced the pandemic early in time, more lives would be saved during the first week.

"This is tremendous," said Zuo-Feng Zhang, an epidemiologist at the University of California, Los Angeles. "If they took action six days earlier, there would have been much fewer patients, and medical facilities would have been sufficient. We might have avoided the collapse of Wuhan's medical system."

U.S. wants China's explanation now!

As said, the U.S. State is now looking for an explanation from China regarding these allegations.

"The Chinese government needs to come clean and needs to be accountable," said Pompeo. "It needs to explain what happened and why it is the case that that information wasn't made more broadly available."

Pompeo also mentioned that his counterparts around the world share the same confusion and want China to explain everything regarding the issues.
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#194 [Permalink] Posted on 16th April 2020 15:27
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You are sourcing from fox news? Why?
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#195 [Permalink] Posted on 16th April 2020 15:30
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What is the title of the thread?
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