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#46 [Permalink] Posted on 24th May 2012 20:55

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Take a look at the 10th post on page 1 regarding the sun being directly above the Ka'bah at a ceratin time, then read below. I think I will set a reminder for these dates, as I and many others missed the chance seeing this phenomenon. Unfortunately, I had posted on the news thread a little too late to observe it. It has been observed for centuries and reported in many books by Muslims around the world that two times a year the sun comes overhead above Ka'bah. This is observational fact for centuries, and is used to set the correct Qibla direction in places far from Makkah by Muslims for last so many centuries. Those two dates and times are: May 28 at 9:18UT July 16 at 9:27UT When you observe the sun at these times (after converting it to your local time), you will be facing the Ka'bah giving you Qibla direction, because if there were a very high minaret over Ka'bah reaching up to the sky, then you will see it just like you are seeing the sun. Now, let us take a few examples. If you are in Islamabad, Pakistan (+5 hours time difference from Greenwich), the local time to observe the sun would be 2:18pm on May 28, and 2:27pm on July 16. Similarly, if you are in Nova Scotia, Canada (-3 hours time difference from Greenwich), the local time to observe the sun would be 6:18am on May 28, and 6:27am on July 16. If you are at a location that you cannot see the sun on the above mentioned two dates, then you can locate Qibla from the sun when it comes overhead at a point diametrically opposite of Makkah on the globe and look for the following two dates and times: November 28 at 21:09UT January 16 at 21:29UT Face toward the shadow from the sun at these times (after converting it to local time) and you will be facing Ka'bah. If you can see the sun but cannot see the shadow, put your back towards the sun and your face will be towards Qibla.

 

This is taking place this SUNDAY. See post below

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#47 [Permalink] Posted on 24th May 2012 20:55
Qibla from Sun

The sun will be above the Kaaba Sunday


فلكية جدة :الشمس تتعامد على الكعبة المشرفة الأحد المقبل
 


جدة-الوئام-محمد الحربي:
كشفت الجمعية الفلكية بجدة أن سماء مكة المكرمة تشهد ظهر الأحد المقبل 6 رجب الموافق 27 مايو واحدة من أهم الظواهر السماوية حيث تتعامد الشمس على الكعبة المشرفة وهو التعامد الأول خلال السنة الشمسية الكبيسة الحالية.وبين رئيس الجمعية المهندس ماجد ابوزاهرة: أن الشمس تشرق في سماء مكة المكرمة الساعة 5:38 صباحا وتستمر في حركتها ” الظاهرية ” إلى أن تتوسط السماء وتصبح على استقامة واحدة مع الكعبة المشرفة الساعة 12:18 توقيت أذان الظهر.حيث سيلاحظ المتواجدون في المسجد الحرام اختفاء ظل الكعبة المشرفة وظلال جميع الأجسام حيث يكون ظل الزوال صفرا وفي ذلك التوقيت ستكون الشمس مشاهدة في المناطق المجاورة للقطب الشمالي وقارة إفريقيا وأوروبا والصين وروسيا وشرق آسيا، والأجزاء الشرقية من لأمريكتين .

ويمكن الاستفادة من هذه الظاهرة للمناطق البعيدة جغرافيا عن مكة المكرمة وذلك من خلال غرس قطعة من الخشب أو غيرها بشكل عمودي على سطح الأرض وعند توقيت التعامد فان الاتجاه المعاكس للظل يشير إلى الكعبة المشرفة علما بان هذه الطريقة غير مفيدة بالنسبة للمناطق القريبة من مكة المكرمة مثل جدة والطائف.

ويرجع سبب حدوث هذه الظاهرة إلى أن الكعبة المشرفة تقع بين خط الاستواء ومدار السرطان ، حيث يحدث التعامد مرتين في كل العام أثناء حركه الشمس ” ظاهريا “ من خط الاستواء إلى السرطان خلال شهر مايو ، و عند عودة الشمس جنوبا إلى خط الاستواء قادمة من مدار السرطان في شهر يوليو من كل عام.

وحذرت الجمعية من النظر المباشر لقرص الشمس سواء في توقيت التعامد أو في باقي أيام السنة من خلال التلسكوبات والمناظير الغير مزودة بمرشحات ضوئية نظرا لان هذه الأجهزة تعمل على تركيز أشعة الشمس وأخطرها الأشعة ما فوق البنفسجية التي تتسبب في حرق شبكية العين .


http://alweeam.com/index.php/2012/05...4%D9%85%D8%B4/

 


 

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#48 [Permalink] Posted on 24th May 2012 20:56
Qibla from Sun

The sun will be above the Kaaba Sunday

فلكية جدة :الشمس تتعامد على الكعبة المشرفة الأحد المقبل




He said Makkah's direction can be set by placing a stick or any other object vertically on the ground at that time. "Its shadow will point accurately towards Makkah...this applies to distant areas not in areas close to Makkah like Jeddah," he said.

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#49 [Permalink] Posted on 25th May 2012 20:52
Since it was a leap year, the date has come forward one day to May 27.

Lookout on Sunday for the True Qiblah via the sun as mentioned above.
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#50 [Permalink] Posted on 26th May 2012 22:58
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Salam, I've edited the second post about the sun above Ka'bah as it's added to homepage..
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#51 [Permalink] Posted on 27th May 2012 00:51
The Arabic text says that the Sun will be directly above the kaabah in makkah at 12:18pm. So that would mean 10:18am here in the UK.

Can someone please confirm this is correctly understood.

Jazakallahu-khair.
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#52 [Permalink] Posted on 27th May 2012 10:45
We are 2 hours behind makkah, the sun is still almost above the kabah. It's still not too late to double check.

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#53 [Permalink] Posted on 27th May 2012 13:49
I was going to do the same thing. In fact, I did but it was off by 45 degrees only to realise that instead of 2 hours behind, I did it 2 hours later.
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#54 [Permalink] Posted on 28th May 2012 22:10
Sorry, wrong thread (again)
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#55 [Permalink] Posted on 19th November 2012 14:03
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#56 [Permalink] Posted on 21st November 2012 21:49
Roukaya19 wrote:
The 'Qiblah' inside the Prophet's Mosque faces the rainwater gutter of the Ka'ba and it was set by Angel Jibreel who told the Prophet (pbuh) about its right direction. The 'Mihrab' expansion during the era of Caliph Othman also faced the rainwater gutter of the Ka'ba
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#57 [Permalink] Posted on 30th April 2013 21:25
If you have a digital compass or an application on a device like a mobile phone, you can also enter the coordinates of The Ka'bah, they are:

21.4225░ N, 39.8261░ E
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#58 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2013 11:21

"abu mohammed" wrote:
Qibla from Sun The sun will be above the Kaaba Sunday فلكية جدة :الشمس تتعامد على الكعبة المشرفة الأحد المقبل
He said Makkah’s direction can be set by placing a stick or any other object vertically on the ground at that time. “Its shadow will point accurately towards Makkah…this applies to distant areas not in areas close to Makkah like Jeddah,” he said.

salaam

too late now, but couldnt this method have been used to put an end to the qibla of america debate?

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#59 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2013 12:21
Its never too late.

This happens every year on the same day.

I have done it myself in my garden in London. Perfect!
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#60 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2013 12:24

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salaam

too late now, but couldnt this method have been used to put an end to the qibla of america debate?

Asslamo Allaikum,

Mufti Sultan Alam (HA) has been asking for input and reminding people and sending emails about this for a long time and trying to get input from American Deobandees.

The issue doesn't involve Tassawuff or Tableegh or not instructed by a Shaykh, not crucial for Islah so of no interest to anyone.

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