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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 24th January 2018 08:48
Salaam brother,

You titled your thread, 'Imarat of Mol. Saad sahab. A perspective from shariat and seerah and mere facts', and this is what many are interested in.

Please answer the title of your own thread.
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 24th January 2018 11:02
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@Dr76: wa alaikum assalam

JazakAllau khairan for this detail.
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 24th January 2018 11:25

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Why dont you ask him for proof to substantiate his claims. Wow i mean you guys believe him without asking for proof??

Please let him substantiate his accusations with authenticated proof. 

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 24th January 2018 12:30
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I believe Dr76 has provided ample evidence in the form of audio clips etc on this thread.

www.muftisays.com/forums/55-members-research-group/11351-...

I'm sure you have read it and hence forth started this thread.

On a personal level, I am not a tablighi so I cannot and will not comment on such threads (as much as possible) but will monitor them to keep everything as calm as possible.

I hope we don't have to jump backwards and forwards between threads to find answers.

So far, a couple of simple questions have been asked, please respond to those.

JazakAllah.
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 24th January 2018 13:23
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He has already substantiated in another thread, it's you who failed to provide any solid evidence for your claim.
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 25th January 2018 20:39
op still hasn't answered what makes Ml. Saad an ameer of tablighi jamaat from Shari' and seerah perspective
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 25th January 2018 21:57
OP had already made one thing clear, so we should be patient. Let him answer the questions before more are asked. This way InshaAllah, questions won't be missed.

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Insha Allaah in this thread i will provide answers to accusations on Mol. Saad sahab. As when i get time, please allow me to do so.
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 1st February 2018 12:21
salaam samy,

any update regarding the imarat of moulana saad and proof from shariah/seerah?

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd January 2020 19:56
Been a year now.
Still waiting.

* crickets chirping.....again *
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd January 2020 10:04

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There is no evidence or proof of Maulana Saeed Saheb (HA) being an Ameer. However, in a typical Deobandi fashion things have moved on, Ulama are now talking about reconciliation between the two groups.

This reminds of Israel/Palestine situation:

  1. Zionists invade Palestine
  2. Slowly and surely they take over Palestinian lands, properties and establish themselves in a foreign land which was stolen
  3. Saudi Arabia and Arabs propose a two-state solution i.e. we now Israel and Palestine in the same region so might as well have 2 countries

Deobandi Akabir are beginning to send delegations to both groups and asking them to work together FORGETTING that one group usurped power, beat others up and (physically) kicked them out without any moral, ethical or Shariah authority.

Does everyone get the picture?

In English, the saying is:

Might is Right


 
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd January 2020 10:19
Images or videos (media) with people (eyes) is simply not permitted on muftisays.com public section to respect all opinions. If the video is beneficial, please convert it to audio format and repost. See this topic for help on video conversion to audio.

There is more than just an eye in that image
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd January 2020 12:55
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Remember the Darul uloom split, the mazahirul uloom split, the jamiat split? How or why would anyone assume things would be any different this time? In each of the cases above there was some alleged usurping.
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd January 2020 13:41

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When the rights of someone are usurped, we are commanded to STOP the oppression and not reconcile with the oppressor (without giving due rights to the oppressed). 

 
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd January 2020 13:44
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One of the reasons why tabligh jamaat has always been in the firing line is because they have always held themselves higher than any other effort or any other organisation that is involved in tabligh.

They never saw themselves or portrayed themselves as just another organisation that carries out the effort of tabligh, but as THE ONE AND ONLY organisation not just for tabligh, but for the WHOLE of islamdom.

I will go as far as to say that many members of tabligh jamaat viewed themselves as part of a divinely ordained organisation.

I am saying this as someone who gave up a big part of his life, wealth, and time for tabligh jamaat and as someone who was once considered an insider.

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd January 2020 15:12
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The former splits only concerned ulama and their students.

The latter involves laymen in the age of social media.
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