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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 9th February 2017 09:14
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Letter written by Hazrat Maulana Ibrahim sahab Dewla (db) on reasons why he returned from Markaz Nizamuddin..


The original was written in urdu and was followed by an audio message by Hazrat Maulana (db) authenticating that he wrote and signed it himself. this letter was read at the old workers jod (gathering) at Nerol, Mumbai last year by Hazrat Prof. sanaullah sahab (db) of Aligarh.. i shall later post that audio إن شاء الله. ( Pdf with original urdu with Arabic & English translations attached at the end)



Note: This is a translation of Hazrat Maulana Ibraheem sb’s (Dewla, Gujrat) clarification letter for
everyone doing the effort of tabligh. The original signed Urdu letter is attached here with for reference,


(bism1)



All kinds of rumours are going around regarding my return from Bangley wali Masjid, Nizamuddin to
Gujrat in the evening of August 12, 2016. All these rumours are entirely baseless and contrary to the
truth. Therefore, I think it is appropriate that I describe the truth myself.

1.The good image of this effort has taken a walloping and the sanctity that this effort enjoys over
the years is being shattered due to all what has happened in Bangley wali Masjid, Nizamuddin from the month of Ramadan till now in the year 2016.

A few days back, one such an ugly incident was witnessed by me in person too. All this has saddened and troubled the brothers all over the world, the Renowned Ulama and the spiritual elders. The current situation has affected the collectiveness of the effort badly.

On the other hand, in Bangley wali Masjid, Nizamuddin, such a group has taken control who is trying to push even the wrong things as right, thus proving as an obstacle in any worthy effort of setting things
right. This is a very serious and dangerous situation for the effort.

There is a dire need to solve this intense problem with all seriousness. All those who think that there is no problem in Markaz at all and everything is going on normally are grossly mistaken, as this is contrary to the existing conditions and facts.


2.Despite feeling clogged, I decided to go to Bangley wali Masjid, Nizamuddin after Eid-ul-Fitr this
year. Before going, I had a feeling that the problems will be solved amicably soon, In-Shaa-Allah. So,
while I was there, I talked to Molvi Saad Sahab many times directly with reference to the current
scenario.

But, sadly, no useful result came out. Instead, due to my stay in Nizamuddin and the participation in Mashwarah daily, it started getting propagated that I am in agreement with the current pattern (“Tarteeb”) and way ahead (“Manhaj”) of the effort. Not expressing my perspective and viewpoint vis-à-vis the current scenario of the effort would be taken as sycophancy in Deen.

Therefore, in the following, I express my viewpoint in clear words for the benefit of the brothers all
over the world.


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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 9th February 2017 09:15
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This Mubarak effort of Dawah has got its circle widened across the world. Millions of people are participating in the effort. People of different temperaments and different views are attached to this effort.

It is obvious that, to take up the burden of such a vast and extensive effort, such an authentic group is required which has learnt from the elders well. All the brothers must have no doubts about that jamat at all when it comes to their quality of fearing Allah, trustworthiness, sincerity and striving for Deen.

This group must carry the effort on with mutual consultation and collectiveness. Without this, it is very difficult to keep the effort off from disorientation and to keep the brothers united. That’s why only, in the lifetime of Maulana Zubairul Hasan Sahab R.A. itself, on the occurrence of some important Masael, I had suggested many times to add more persons from across the world to the Shoora made by Maulana Inamul Hasan Sahab R.A. I had presented the view that the solution to the emerging problems lies in this expansion of the Shoora only.

In the last years of his life, Hazrat Marhoom Maulana Zubairul Hasan Sahab R.A. had got ready also for that. But, suddenly his last time came, may Allah سبحانه وتعالى grant him forgiveness and enter him into Jannah. After the passing away of Hazrat Marhoom, with the Mashwara of old brothers, we had sent a detailed letter to Maulana Saad Sahab., in which we had expressed our apprehensions about the current Tarteeb and Nahaj of the effort, thereby requesting to give a shape to the Shoora as a step towards solving the problems. But, alas, nothing consequential came forth and the condition of the effort kept deteriorating.

Then, last year in November 2015, after the formation of Shoora in the congregation of the older brothers from across the world, I had requested Maulana Saad Sahab myself to accept this Shoora. All the problems will be solved In-Shaa-Allah. But, he refused to accept, because of which the effort got disturbed in the whole world and the situation became pretty alarming.

Even now, in my view, the solution to the problem is in the acceptance of this Shoora and then completing all the requirements of the effort with the collective wisdom of this Shoora. As regards to the Nahaj and Tarteeb of the effort, it should be maintained in accordance with the previous three tenures. If there is a need for any addition or modification in the same, it should be affected only after a collective decision of the Shoora. At this time, the reason for the collectiveness being hampered is only that new things and formats are being introduced without the Mashwara and confidence of the old brothers.

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 9th February 2017 09:16
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This jamat of tableegh is bound by the Maslak of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama’ah (Muslims in large with Sunnah and Deen in their life) with regards to the explanation and interpretation in the matters of Deen and Shariah. Similarly, they are bounded by the Legendary (Jamhoor) Mufassirin in pronouncing the Tafseer of any Ayah of Quran-e-Kareem, Legendary (Jamhoor) Muhaddisin in pronouncing the explanation (Tashreeh) of any Hadeeth and the opinion of Legendary (Jamhoor) Fuqaha in derivations from the lives of Rasool (saw) and Sahabah رضي الله عنهم.

Our elders in the previous three periods remained bounded to this principle, because without this, the doors to the alterations in Deen will open up. From the very beginning of the effort, extreme care has been taken in all the discourses. All efforts had been made to stay away from the non-authentic anecdotes and undue derivations and innovations.

For this only, we have ordained to confine ourselves within the six qualities during our discourse, to follow the authentic Ulama in pronouncing the explanation of any Ayah or Hadeeth. Our elders had been abstaining from contradictions, criticism, comparisons or judgements, discussions on Aqaaed, Masaael and current affairs.

It is one of the basic principles of this effort to abstain from criticizing or passing judgement on any religious organizations or person. However, nowadays, many of the elders are crossing these limits in their discourses, particularly in making wrongful derivations from the lives of Sahabah, excessive criticism and passing judgements on other religious organizations.

I have not been agreeing with this from before and had even been trying to divert the attention towards this. In my talks also, I had been trying to warn about it all, in a positive way though.

However, when the limits were exceeded and people started interpreting my stay in Nizamuddin wrongly that I approve of the current state and Tarteeb of the effort, thereby creating a feeling of suffocation for me in the current environment of Bangley wali Masjid, then after many days of Istikhara, I have decided to open my heart before the brothers in clear words.

When the situation will improve, I shall not have the slightest hesitation in coming back again. My return to Gujrat should not be taken as being party to anyone, rather it is for the sake of protection of the effort and to save myself from sycophancy. I am also answerable in the courts of Allah. May Allah سبحانه وتعالى only save the effort and its brothers, Ameen.

Banda Ibraheem Dewla

Currently at: Dewla, Gujrat

Monday August 15th, 2016


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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 9th February 2017 09:18
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This is the audio clip of Hazrat Maulana Ibrahim sahab Dewla (db) authenticating the Letter written by him on leaving Markaz Nizamuddin.

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Hazrat Prof. Sanaullah sahab (db) of Aligarh reading the letters written by Hazrat Maulana Ibrahim sahab Dewla (db) & Hazrat Maulana Yaqoub sahab saharanpuri (db) of Markaz Nizamuddin.(old workers Nerol Jod , Mumbai, 28/08/2016).

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 9th February 2017 09:25
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This is the letter written by the old workers at the jod in Chennai on 30/07/2016



The original urdu letter and English translation is attached at the end.


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AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR THE RESPONSIBLE BROTHERS OF DAWAT AND THE SYMPATHIZERS OF UMMAH

Assalam-o-Alaikum wa Rahamatullahi wa Barakatuh,



First of all, keeping in mind that we are accountable before Allah سبحانه وتعالى for each and every word that we utter, we wish to clarify before the whole world that, we find a rise in the intense love, connection and respect that we always had with the four-walls of Nizamuddin ever since we joined Tableegh.

We ask from Allah سبحانه وتعالى that we live and die with the same intensity of love and devotion. This is because Nizamuddin is such a place where loads of tears have been shed for Deen, hundreds of pious people have got their bones dissolved here. We respect it so that we could show our faces to Allah سبحانه وتعالى and be counted among these pious people on the Day of Judgment.

Secondly, we wish to clarify that we do not have any personal differences with any believer on the face of the earth. In our hearts, we have respect, love and regard for all believers according to their status. In addition to these clarifications, there are some realities that must be kept in mind in order not to be duped or misled –what are the foundations of the work in Nizamuddin and how these foundations has recently been shaken?

The foundations of the work laid out in Nizamuddin from the very first day are not the creation of someone’s mind, but rather they are laid out on the basis of Quran, Hadith and the life of Sahabah under the guidance and company of true Ulama, so that the complete Deen reaches to each and every human being in its true sense.

The effort of six qualities is meant to achieve this target; without this effort it is impossible to get complete Deen in one’slife and get the reality of virtuous acts. Moreover, these qualities cannot come in one’slife until he is made to go through the “Aamal-e-Nubuwwat”,which are “Dawat”,“Taleem”,“Ibadat”and “Akhlaaq”.

Now, there are two spheres of work that have been suggested in order to get the entire Ummah onto these “Aamal”,one is to move out in the path of Allah سبحانه وتعالى and the other is the local effort. These two engagements are very close to “Hijrat” and “Nusrat”,respectively. Also, for the acceptance of the effort in this direction, “Ikhlaas”is required along with “Mushwarah”and “Ijtimaaiyat”.

This effort and its foundation are very close to “Nahj-e-Nubuwwat”.Therefore, Maulana Ilyas (rah) used to say, “I regard this effort as the effort of Prophets, each and every one, common or elite, should be joined in this effort. Even a drunkard sinner must be welcomed with open arms. Every believer must be enjoined politely and affectionately to spend his life and wealth in this effort while valuing his merits and ignoring his weaknesses.

Specially, the Ulama, elders and people contributing into different areas of Deen may be requested most respectfully to take part in this effort as per their schedule while remaining active in their respective fields. In case it is difficult for them to participate actively, they may support this effort through their approval and prayers”.

These are the foundations of Nizamuddin and from the day one this effort has been raised in this direction. We have understood these foundations from the words of Maulana Ilyas Sahab (rah), from his letters, and also from the words & writings of his trained and trusted lifetime companions –Maulana Yusuf Sahab (rah) and Maulana Inamul Hasan Sahab (rah) , and also from the people who spent their lives in the company of these elders.

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How these foundations are shaken:

However, for the last few years, instead of spending energy in order to establish these foundations in the Ummah, distractive things have been introduced. At times, people have been confused on the premise of “Asbab”(means) that engaging in “Asbab”even with a belief on Allah سبحانه وتعالى is “Shirk”.It is because of this confusion, many sick people abandoned their medical treatment and many left their occupations thereby getting into financial difficulties.

Sometimes, confusion was created either on the basis of the book for Taleem and sometimes in the name of “Aabadi-e-Masjid”.The true meaning of “Gusht”has been confused by misinterpreting the stories of Sahabah. At times, the 30-year long period of Maulana Inamul Hasan Sahab (rah) was portrayed as a period of “ Tanzeem” in front of the masses, and it was conveyed that the real work was carried out only in the times of Maulana Ilyas Sahab. (rah) and Maulana Yusuf Sahab. (rah). As a consequence, people began to say that Maulana Inamul Hasan Sb. (rah) could not understand the effort of the earlier two “Buzurgs”and hence, wasted a long period of 30 years.

Besides this, the veterans have often been insulted in front of the new brothers. Even the active brothers were blamed and humiliated. The Professors have been accused to have turned the effort into an organization. The confidence of the old workers has been shattered in front of the new ones.

When as a result of the extreme efforts put in by the Arab and non-Arab elders a five member “Nizamuddin Shura” and a 13-member “Shura”of the three countries was created, it was outrightly rejected. A situation of conflict has been created. Despite all this chaos that led to a division among our brothers to such an extent that it resulted in fights and bloodshed in Nizamuddin many a time. A laid-back attitude was shown in response to these violent incidents and there has been a criminal silence as if to justify these incidents.

Likewise, the Ulama had been labelled as work-shy and corrupt in front of the masses. Their income was said to be worse than that of a prostitute.

All other Deeni activities and efforts have been termed as customary. Only the current form of Dawah is regarded as Sunnah and rest of the forms are called as customary that may spread only the customs and traditions and not the true Deen.

This is despite the fact that whatever Deeni benefit we see around the whole world is directly or indirectly to the credit of Islamic seminaries or Madrasas. Maulana Ilyas (rah), Maulana Yusuf (rah) and Maulana Inamul Hasan (rah) are also the products of these Madrasas. Whatever religious awakening that we see in the whole world is due to the different efforts of Deen including this universal effort of Dawah.

Every segment of Deen is focussed on its own work. As far as the weaknesses and shortcomings are concerned –no activity of our time is free from them due to the distance from the time of Nabi (saw).

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 9th February 2017 09:27
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A repeated assertion of these things from the platform of Nizamuddin has made the masses work with a typical mentality and due to lack of wisdom, they are thus moving away from truth and those who uphold the truth.

This situation has made the visionary people fear that this work may become a separate cult. Because of this, our crowd across the world has got divided into a few groups. A fairly large group is unable to comprehend the adverse effects of these things on the effort, and has been welcoming any sound or unsound things said to them. This group is intoxicated with the personality cult.

The second group is the one which understands that these things are harmful, but remains silent.

The third group is feeling suffocated by all these and has been restless.

The fourth group, oblivious to its fate, is simply sticking to the work without correcting the wrong.

The fifth group is not only sticking to it, but also advocating it, serving as its broker and trying to shove the masses into this. A dead body must only be buried; it cannot be revived by applying cream, powder, flowers and garlands.

The reasons for all these weaknesses are (a) the overrated awe of Nizamuddin and (b) the personality-cult. Doctrines and system don’t come from a specific place, not even from Makkah or Madinah and obviously not from Nizamuddin either. Elevating any place beyond its due status gives rise to misleading perceptions. Millions of people have been misled in this way, which can be witnessed at the tombs.

Doctrines and system are only from Allah سبحانه وتعالى and his messenger (saw) There is no place for personality-cult in Islam. History bears witness to the fact that the biggest reason for people going astray has been the personality-cult. Blind faith leads to the acceptance of right and wrong without distinction. Jews, Christians and all other misled groups are the products of this personality-cult.

We are allowed to accept only what is right even from a person we respect and revere the most because no mortal can claim to be free from desires and being infallible, except the Prophets who, by virtue of the divine protection and guidance from Allah سبحانه وتعالى, spoke only the truth.

Similarly, Allah made the Sahabah the standard of truth by conferring upon them the seal of acceptance. Therefore, no other human being has the right to proclaim that the truth is only what he is saying. It is the need of hour that we come out of the influence of overrated awe of places and personalities and unite to understand, follow and spread the truth in the whole world.

There is also a need to avoid the schism because division is the biggest punishment for this Ummah. Carrying out every work in the right manner brings Allah’s pleasure and leads to Jannah.

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Carrying out the right work in a wrong way, however, invites Allah’s wrath and leads to Jahannum, which is the worst destination. The excuse that our words and actions were at someone else’sinsistence will never be accepted on the day of judgement.

Therefore every worker must spend his health, wealth, and time on the right way till his last breath always keeping in mind the Hadith of Abu Hurairah (r.a.) –Jahannum will be inflamed first by those who have spent their lives in the service of knowledge, those who spent their wealth for the noble causes without any hesitation, each and every moment of their lives and every drop of their blood was for Tableegh, but having carried out all these noble works in a wrong way would lead them to such a fate.

We must ensure that we safeguard our own capabilities, and that of our families and the entire Ummah from going into the hands of people pursuing their selfish interests. We must try hard to make our Akhirat better by following the path of the sincere ones, so that we may attain the pleasure of Allah سبحانه وتعالى, the Barakah in our final meeting with Him, and the intercession of Rasoolullah (saw) on the day of judgement followed by the access to Hauz-e-Kausar and declaration of Rasoolullah (saw) that these are my people who have carried out my work.

The sixth and the last group is trying to correct this wrong trend by exerting all their capabilities and energies, even at the cost of their lives. Every possible effort has been made to rectify this whole situation and to protect the foundations of Nizamuddin.

But, there has been a complete failure in this front and there is no hope of success in future as well. Now, there was an option to continue with this wrong trend, thereby supporting the wrong in place of the right just to avoid “Fitnah”.However, this hypocritical approach would have all our capabilities, time and wealth spent for the cause of establishment of wrong things rather than the right things in the world.

Therefore, being left with no alternative, our friends have decided to find out the ways and means of utilizing our capabilities, life and wealth and that of the entire Ummah in the right way. However, we have no intention to establish a new Markaz, or to induce fights between the workers, or to deceive the Ummah, or to start a new Jamaat altogether.

Having said that, It is just not possible to bring alive the true foundations of Nizamuddin in its present setting. Thus, keeping in mind that we are accountable before Allah سبحانه وتعالى, we have decided to keep ourselves and our brothers away from distracting words, actions, and places. We shall never give away the people and the work of our area to confusion and chaos.

Even an ordinary vehicle is not handed to an incompetent driver, as he may put the vehicle and the passengers lives in danger. Obviously, the matter of Deen and the Aakhirat of the whole Ummah is much more critical. Therefore, it is decided that we shall steer ourselves and our people into the right direction and spirit of the work. InshaAllah.

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 9th February 2017 09:29
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Correct Foundations of the Work:

Engage yourselves and the masses in the local effort with its true spirit. Avoid making the work a routine custom. Similarly, the outside work must be done by sending Jamaats from our masjids to the areas where the work is required. These Jamaats must spend their time sticking to only the foundations of the effort. Clear work instructions must be given to these Jamaats in their respective masjids and proper ‘Karguzari’ be taken when they return. This is because, despite dispatching of numerous jamaats, 80% of areas in India are still barren.

Foundations for local and external efforts are as follows: The First foundation is that everyone joining the effort must be properly groomed and trained, which means that his heart should be turned towards Allah, His commandments and the Aakhirat.

The entire life should be moulded into the ways of Rasoolullah (saw) Everyone in the effort should develop the concern for Dawah. For this, all the individual and collective aamals should be explained. All the prohibited actions should also be explained because doing the good and abstaining from bad are the pre-requisites for self-correction.

The second foundation is to bring every Muslim brother into the environment of masjid from the evil atmosphere of outside after explaining “Tauheed”,“Risaalat”and “Aakhirat”and encourage him to go out in jamaat. Without this movement and thereby seeing one’sface in the mirror of Sahabah, it is not possible to realize and remove one’ s spiritual weaknesses.

The third foundation is that every member of this Ummah should be connected to the “Aamal-e-Dawat”in masjids. In order to establish these foundations, one must exert all his energy and toil away so much so that Allah سبحانه وتعالى endears him.

The fourth foundation is that nothing will happen by our efforts without the will and intent of Allah سبحانه وتعالى. This can only be attained through crying and shedding tears. Therefore, every jamaat as well as the local brothers should spend a substantial portion of their nights in Namaaz, dua, crying and shedding tears because the very foundation of this effort is Dawat and Dua, but not with ignorance, forgetfulness, bad behaviour and arrogance, rather with the knowledge from Nubuwwat, remembrance and attachment with Allah and sacrifices.

Sacrifice is not about being reclusive and leaving out the house and job. Instead, it is to leave one’sown wishes for the sake of completing the commandments of Allah and the requirements of Dawah and also, to leave the material possessions and occupations in favour of the demands of Deen and Dawah.

This is called “Mujahadah”or sacrifice that guarantees the guidance from Allah, Halal provisions from His treasures, the easing up of tight situations and the acceptance of prayers. This will solve our problems and the problems of the entire Ummah, just as the problems of “Sahabah”were solved.

That is why we should spend all our efforts in understanding and explaining these foundations to all our people. Movements are just like containers and a container is valued by what is contained in it, just as a human being is valued by his belief and actions and not by his physique.

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 9th February 2017 09:30
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The last thing is that we shall continue to work independently in this direction until:

(a) You and your companions attain enough integrity, capability, maturity, and accountability that this great effort demands. These qualities cannot be attained without engaging in the conventional effort at the grassroots level for a substantial period of time.

(b) Those with the true pain, worry and concern of this work find a viable mutual solution to the current situation and settle on a clear effective work setup along the lines of our three founding elders who had established the effort in the light of Quran, Hadith, lives of Sahabah and the guidance of true Ulama.

From:

(1) Maulvi Ismail, Godhra (2) Maulvi Usman Kakosi (3) Maulvi Abdul Rehman Mumbai

(4) Farooque Bhai, Bangalore (5) Prof. Khalid Siddiqui, Aligarh (6) Muhammad Muhsin Sahab, Lucknow

(7) Prof. Sanaullah Sahab, Aligarh (8) Prof. Abdul Rehman Sahab, Madras




C.C. to:

Maulana Yaqoob Sahab, Haji Abdul Wahhab Sahab & Shura, Shaikh Fahad

Maulana Ibrahim Sahab, Maulana Tarique Jameel Sahab, Shaikh Fazil

Maulana Ahmed Lat Sahab, Maulana Salimullah Khan Sahab, Shaikh Gassan

Maulana Saad Sahab, Mufti Taqi Usmani Sahab, Shaikh Umar Khateeb

Maulana Zuhairul Hasan Sahab, Mufti Rafi Usmani Sahab, Shaikh Wisam

Mufti Abul Qasim Sahab, Maulana Abdul Rehman Patel Sahab, Shaikh Salih Muqbil,

Maulana Arshad Madni Sahab, Maulana Zarwali Khan Sahab, Shaikh Taha Abdul Satar

Maulana Abdul Khalique Madrasi Sb., Maulana Rabiul Haque Sahab, Shaikh Hasan Nasr

Maulana Salman Mansurpuri Sahab, Wasiful Islam Sahab, Shaikh Abal Qasim

Maulana Rabe Hasni Sahab, Maulana Zubair Ahmed Siddiqui Sb., Shaikh Bilal

Mufti Ahmed Khanpuri Sahab, Dr. Aslam Sahab

Maulana Ibrahim Patni Sahab, Mufti Rizvi Sahab

Maulana Mehmood Madni Sahab, Maulana Altafur Rahman Sahab

Maulana Salman Nadwi Sahab, Mufti Saeed Ahmed Sahab

Mufti Saeed Sahab Palanpuri, Maulana Abul Fazl

Maulana Talha Sahab Saharanpuri, Maulana Hakim Kalimullah Sahab

Shaikhul Hadith Maulana Yunus Sb., Maulana Hanif Jalandhri and Qari Fath Sahab


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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 9th February 2017 09:36
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Hazrat Haji Abdul Wahhab sahab (db) clearly mentions at Raiwind ijtema last year to a group of people who came for clarification on the Ameer / Shura issue.. he clearly states that there shall be NO Ameer and none imarat shall work (from 02:47 mins).. and that he told the Nizamuddin people that " If saad begins to think that he is the Ameer and shall be great now and that everyone gets bayat to him, still it shall NOT work"

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 9th February 2017 12:46
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Its sad that even this Audio clip has been posted on youtube.. This was the Mashwara at Raiwind (November 2015) where Mashaikh of Nizamuddin.. Kakrayel (bangladesh) and Raiwind met.. from 3:31 u can listen to Haji Sahab (db) saying:

" Mujhe ye baat maloom hui ke saad ne ye lafz kaha ke main Ameer hoon.. main darr gaya.. main dua mangne laga.. ke agar jee me ye baat agayi ke main bada hoon.. to ye khaandan hi khatam hojayega.."

( I came to learn that Saad has said the words that Iam the Ameer.. i got frightened.. i started making dua.. that if this settles in the heart that Iam big.. then this family itself would be finished )

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You can also listen from 7:35 the heated exchange between Maulana saad and an Akabir there..

Hazrat Maulana Tariq Jameel sahab (db) speaks in detail about this Mashwara and the formation of world shura.. Here.


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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 9th February 2017 12:51

Here is where Maulana Saad sahab clearly refuses the repeated appeals of the Mashaikh there.. including Haji Abdul Wahhab sahab sahab (db) to form a Shura..

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 9th February 2017 12:57

This is the Audio of the same Raiwind Mashwara where Bhai Farooq sahab (db) of bangalore gives an enlightening talk of the need for shura.. From 5:14.. all these clips are worth listening..

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