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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 7th February 2017 15:30
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When a child was born to one of the families of the Sahaba (the Companions of the Prophet) they would take it to the Prophet so that he would bless it, and apply the pulp of a date, chewed by him, to its palate. This 'tahneek' as it is known in 'Arabic', was to keep the child safe from evil.

But our professor told us that it is really unhygienic. He said by doing this actually you are passing on your germs to the newborn. It was quite disturbing for me because it is the sunnah of our prophet (saw). Please share your thoughts
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 7th February 2017 15:55
Your Professor has proved he/she is unqualified!

Is the Professor a Muslim or non-Muslim?

The BBC on something like Tahneek www.muftisays.com/forums/14-peoples-say/5930-date--tamr--...

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(Al Tahneek); rubbing the newborn's mouth with a well-chewed date and feeding him with it. Science has proved that giving the newborn some sugar dissolved in water provides the child with the necessary nutrition and improves their immunity against diseases.

Eventualy Science WILL concede to the Sunnah www.muftisays.com/forums/14-peoples-say/5528-islam-versus...
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 7th February 2017 16:06
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Tahneek From a scientific perspective.. as Published in a bbc article.

'Sugar gel' helps premature babies


A dose of sugar given as a gel rubbed into the inside of the cheek is a cheap and effective way to protect premature babies against brain damage, say experts.

Dangerously low blood sugar affects about one in 10 babies born too early. Untreated, it can cause permanent harm.

Researchers from New Zealand tested the gel therapy in 242 babies under their care and, based on the results, say it should now be a first-line treatment.

Their work is published in The Lancet.

Sugar dose

Dextrose gel treatment costs just over £1 per baby and is simpler to administer than glucose via a drip, say Prof Jane Harding and her team at the University of Auckland.

Current treatment typically involves extra feeding and repeated blood tests to measure blood sugar levels.
But many babies are admitted to intensive care and given intravenous glucose because their blood sugar remains low - a condition doctors call hypoglycaemia.

The study assessed whether treatment with dextrose gel was more effective than feeding alone at reversing hypoglycaemia.

Neil Marlow, from the Institute for Women's Health at University College London, said that although dextrose gel had fallen into disuse, these findings suggested it should be resurrected as a treatment.

We now had high-quality evidence that it was of value, he said.

Andy Cole, chief executive of premature baby charity Bliss, said: "This is a very interesting piece of new research and we always welcome anything that has the potential to improve outcomes for babies born premature or sick.

"This is a cost-effective treatment and could reduce admissions to intensive care services, which are already working at high capacity levels.

"While the early results of this research show benefits to babies born with low blood sugars, it is clear there is more research to be done to implement this treatment."


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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 7th February 2017 16:14
Date is basically a sugar, correct?

Science says that sugar prevents brain damage if given to babies, correct?

What does Sugar do to Bacteria? IT EATS IT UP & KILLS IT :)

So even if it is unhygienic, Allah Knows and they know not :)

More proof on Sugar and bacteria www.livescience.com/14124-sugar-improves-antibiotic-treat...
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 7th February 2017 16:22
Jazakumullah khair to colonel sahab for pointing out the actual question by the op.. ie, whether the saliva of the Parent transmits infection to the newborn through Tahneek.... well research speaks otherwise..

The following study mentions passing of mothers saliva strengthening the infants immune system.. through saliva on a pacifier.. much like Tahneek..

Mom’s Saliva Can Strengthen Babies’ Immune Systems



The practice not only protects babies from the nasty microbes on the floor, but passes on good bugs that can lower the risk of allergies, according to a new study from Swedish researchers published in Pediatrics.

“Parental sucking of their infant’s pacifier is associated with a reduced risk of allergy development and an altered oral flora in their child,”

Read more..

So as long anyone giving Tahneek doesnt suffer from any infections... there shouldnt be any problem..
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 7th February 2017 16:25
Science once again disagrees with the professor

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Pre-mastication — the act of pre-chewing adult food and feeding it to one's baby — was standard practice among our blender-lacking ancestors and remains common in many of the world's cultures. Now, it may be coming back in vogue in the West, too, thanks to research indicating a mother's saliva helps boost her infant's immune system.

By exposing infants to traces of disease pathogens present in a mother's spit, pre-mastication gears up their production of antibodies, teaching their immune systems how to deal with those same pathogens later in life. It could also reduce their risk of the autoimmune diseases, such as asthma, that are common in industrialized countries — epidemiology evidence indicates that these ailments result from underexposure to pathogens before age 2.

Fortunately, spit is also swimming with antibodies that reduce the infectiousness of the bacteria in their midst; this means exposing babies to spit gives them a taste of pathogens while usually preventing them from getting sick.


www.livescience.com/19463-5-facts-spit.html
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 7th February 2017 16:43
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Very informative. By the way he is Muslim. I know its really disappointing to hear this from muslims, but...
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 7th February 2017 16:44
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 7th February 2017 16:45
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Really cool stuff. But should i show this to my teacher. Need advice
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 7th February 2017 16:50
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I don't why you shouldn't show your prof.

However, he will brush it away with - "But it's the mother's saliva, that's different."
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 7th February 2017 16:52
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Why not.. show him the article.. find more if u can..
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 7th February 2017 16:53
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Yes but present it as a question or inquiry rather than a rebuttal
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 7th February 2017 17:00
Ok. Will talk to him in a respectable manner in sha Allah
Wassalam
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 7th February 2017 17:11
Let's not forget a great Sunnah of the Prophet (saw) The Miswak!

Put the Miswak (that all Muslim's should be using) together with Saliva and see the benefits too

www.miswakstick.com/files/Miswak-Scientific-Benifits.pdf.

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1. Antibacterial properties
Studies have indicated that Salvadora persica contain substances that possess plaque inhibiting and antibacterial properties against several types of cariogenic bacteria which are frequently found in the oral cavity. The growth and acid production of these bacteria is thus inhibited.

Al Lafi and Ababneh tested the antibacterial activity of Salvadora persica against some oral aerobic and anaerobic bacteria and reported that the extract of these sticks had a drastic effect on the growth of Staphylococcus aureus, and a variable effect on other bacterial species. They commented that the chewing sticks they used were harvested one month earlier, and suggested that using more fresh sticks will give better result.

Almas et al tested fresh vs. one- month-old Miswak extracts for antibacterial activity and found no difference. A comparison of alcohol and aqueous extract of Miswak was also made. It was found that alcoholic extract is more effective than aqueous extract for antibacterial activity.

2. Antimycotic activity
Results of the investigation carried by Al- Bagieh et al suggest that aqueous extracts of Miswak could be used to reduce growth of Candida albicans. Such inhibition lasts for up to 36/h at concentrations of 15% and above.

3. Release of calcium and chloride into saliva

Gazi et al investigated the immediate and medium-term effect of Miswak on the composition of mixed saliva. They reported that Miswak produced significant increases in calcium (22-fold) and chloride (6-fold), and significant decreases in phosphate and pH.
Calcium saturation of saliva inhibits deminera- lization and promotes remineralization of tooth enamel whereas high concentrations of chloride inhibit calculus formation.

4. Analgesic effect
Mansour et al studied the analgesic effect of Miswak decoction when injected to mice. They found that Miswak was more effective against thermal stimuli than against chemical stimuli. Should the analgesic effect of Miswak be confirmed in clinical dental pain, e.g. superficial pain due to dental hypersensitivity to thermal, tactile, or to chemical stimuli, Miswak will be of practical value.

5. Cytotoxicity

Mohammad et al investigated the cytotoxic potential of Salvadora persica on gingiva and other periodontal structures using the agar overlay method. Results showed no cytotoxic effect by a freshly cut and freshly used Miswak. However, the same plant used for after 24 hours does contain harmful components. Based on these findings they recommend cutting the used portion of the Miswak after it has been used for one day and preparing a fresh part. The cytotoxicity in this study became evident only after 24 hours because the agar overlay method depends on the diffusion of the medicament through the agar material. In addition, it did not provide direct contact between the cells and the tested solution.

6. Other pharmacological properties

Miswak was reported to have anti-inflam- matory, hypoglycemic activities beside the astringent and detergent effect.
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 7th February 2017 17:58
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SubhanAllah there are so many benefits of the sunnah. May Allah make us steadfast on it.
Btw he teaches us pre clinical dentistry:)
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