Golden Advice To Muslims After New Zealand Mosque Attack

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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2019 08:42

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2019 09:48

This is getting silly now. Why are Muslims jumping on this bandwagon. USA just bombed a mosque in Afghanistan over day not a heard from kuffar or Muslims. A refugee camp got stormed and 300 plus dead but cos the civilians used to live under IS control not a heard. Have we Muslims become so useless we only show condolences to Muslims that the west approve off? This whole thing seems too theatrical. Yes what happened was bad and we should tackle the courses what lead to it. Same politicians who are shedding crocodile tears and donning hijab are same ones bombing us elsewhere and trying to remove hijab. Tomorrow is IS does a terror attack these same politicians will turn on u and Islam then what u gana do?

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2019 12:04

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Better then the usual scenario of some demented muslim carrying out an attack. And muslims having to apologise and distance themselves.

Maybe muslims are tired and depressed of those bandwagons....And appreciate the fact that this events as tragic as they were .... Allah has also instilled compassion in the hearts of the non-muslims for muslim victims. Allah has had the Quran recited in New Zealand parliament. Allah inspired the Prime Minister of New Zealand to wear Hijab and recite hadith. Allah has inspired thousands of non-muslims
to visit masajid, millions listened to a live broadcast of Adhan and Quran....And thousands of non-muslims to turn out wearing Hijab on the day of Jumah. These are historic events.

Sure we should be concerned our brethren in other parts of the world and we are.

This mindset of constantly looking to complain about something is nothing but a recipe for depression.
If muslims were mourning about the deaths of refugees in Syria.

Then you would be complaining about muslims not mourning about victims in some other place.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2019 13:21

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Without undermining the Shuhada. Know this incident is a form of Atthab of Allah Ta'ala. It's a double edged sword. Yes people are entering Islam. But it is causing Muslims to commit open Kufr. What benefit is it giving if thousands of non Muslims wear Hijabs. We don't need their approval. In fact in the time of Hadrhat Umar radhiyallhu anhu non Muslims were prevented from wearing topis of the Muslims.

We don't need the sympathy of the non muslims.

There is overwhelming evidence that this event was fully planned and the Prime Minister her self knew about it.

You have to realize that these non Muslims are very smart in the way they plotted this. Why has this situation become a thing where it seems like we are looking for acceptance from them?

The only things that need to be done are Taubah and Building our connection to Allah Ta'ala. Understand they will never accept us till we leave the religion. This is just proving the inferiority complex Muslims have. The Desi's just want to slap that white skin on themselves.

Look for Honor with Islam.

â€œThe Oppression of Kings (i.e. governments and rulers) is from the Punishments of Allah Taâ€™ala. The Punishment of Allah Taâ€™ala cannot be warded off with swords. Verily, safety (from Allahâ€™s punishment) and warding it off are (possible) only by means of Dua, Taubah, Inaabat (turning to Him with repentance), and by eliminating sins. Verily, when the Punishment of Allah is confronted by swords, it (Allahâ€™s Punishment) becomes worse.â€

â€œWallaah! If people had to adopt Sabr (i.e. morally reform oneself and submit to the Shariah fully) when oppressed by their Sultan, Allah Azza Wa Jal will soon eliminate the oppression. However, when they resort to the sword (i.e. rebellion), they are assigned to it [i.e. Allah abandons them to their swords].â€

[Statements of Hasan al-Basri, the great student of the Sahabah (radhiyallahu anhum)]

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2019 13:27

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Kindly post the evidence I asked of you in the previous post.

Which open Kuffar have the muslims in New Zealand been commiting enmasse. Please enlighten us.

You seem greatly annoyed that muslims are not being villified as per usual.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2019 13:29

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2019 14:05

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You are making these statements then back your statements with evidence.

If you are talking about the fitnah of modern progressive American Islam...Were university educated muslims in America are over looking 1400 years of Scholarship. And trying to invent a new Islam compliant to the whims cultural norms of the west...That has been discussed on this forum on other threads.

I dont see how that is applicable in the present scenario as regards the masscre in New Zealand.

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2019 16:18

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No judging please.

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2019 16:40

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Okay Moulana, understood.

Could you please help explain to him the negative effects that I am trying to refer to. I'm not taking anything away from the Shuhada that were involved. May Allah Grant them Jannatul Firdous. They are Shaheed and lucky to be gone from this chaotic world which is spiraling towards destruction.

The sad state is of the Muslims not getting the right message from this incident. Overwhelming evidence of slowed down videos (no images of living beings) are showing how this was a set up. We Muslims are the scape goats. The reality is the ones who passed (May Allah Ta'ala bless their souls and raise their rank) are in a better situation then the ones living. The ones living are now perpetrating open Kufr etc. It's like a person who was dying for someones attention they liked. Now that they have the attention of that person what ever they say the Muslims will do. They look over the rules of the Shariah, which to them is a outdated cliche to the say the least.

It's makes a person cry thinking about it. The days that have come we say Ø§Ù†Ø§ Ù„Ù„Ù‡ ÙˆØ§Ù†Ø§ Ø§Ù„ÙŠÙ‡ Ø±Ø§Ø¬Ø¹ÙˆÙ† for both the dead and the living among us. He thinks I have a problem with the Ummah being happy or supportive. I'm Jaahil and hold no value in his eyes. So Moulana please explain to him.

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2019 16:54

Those who cared for Shariah before the incident are still caring for it and those who didn't, they won't now either.

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2019 17:05

All he asked for was evidence of something you posted. How can you expect someone to listen when you ignore them?

You can mention the negative effects in a new thread and I'm sure the responses will be in support to a degree. But mixing the negative effects with the positive from the incident is like pushing and pulling a door at the same time, you'll never get through. You'll end up breaking it.

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2019 17:11

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those who didn't care for Shareeah before the incident may care after the incident. If it's effected Kuffar then surely it's effected muslims. Stories of those who actually embraced Islam after this incident is testament to that. Their martyrdom was not just for them.

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2019 17:12

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Yes you are right. In sha Allah.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2019 17:18

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Those who didn't care about the people who didn't care about following the Shariah, should start caring about them now. Because if they don't then Allah Ta'ala won't care about them.

CHAPTER: THE RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE WILL DEPART

MirdÃ¢s Aslami Ø±Ø¶ÙŠ Ø§Ù„Ù„ÙŽÙ‘Ù‡ ØªØ¹Ø§Ù„Ù‰ Ø¹Ù†Ù‡ narrates that NabÃ® ØµÙ„ Ø§Ù„Ù„Ù‡ Ø¹Ù„ÙŠÙ‡ ÙˆØ³Ù„Ù… said, "The righteous (pious
people will depart (die) in succession one after the other, and there
will remain (on the earth) useless people like the useless husk of
barley seeds or bad dates. AllÃ¢h ØªØ¹Ø§Ù„Ù‰ will not bother about them.

Commentary by Hadrhat Moulana Shah Abdul Hamid (DB):

The departure of the righteous and pious people is amongst
the signs of QiyÃ¢mah. In another hadith, we learn that AllÃ¢h ØªØ¹Ø§Ù„Ù‰ will
not remove knowledge by extracting it from the hearts, but knowledge will be removed by the demise of ulama. When the ulamÃ¢ do not remain, the ignoramuses will be taken as guides.
They will be astray and will lead others astray. When no knowledge remains, no righteous people will remain,
since righteous and pious will only come into existence when
there remains knowledge. By the blessings of the ulamÃ¢, the
pious will remain. If there is no sun, there will be no light. The
moon will not be seen, as the moon derives its light from the sun.
Without the ulamÃ¢, no piety can be attained. The enemies have
understood this. Sorrowfully, we have not understood this. The
enemies target the ulamÃ¢, attack their integrity, and lower their
ranks in the sight of people. The enemies know that if they say
that the QurÃ¢n or sunnah is incorrect, no Muslim person will ever
accept their assertions. However, they can easily create evil
thoughts about the ulamÃ¢, which people will accept. In this way,
they are able to sever the relationship of the general masses with
the ulamÃ¢. As soon as this happens, people are disconnected to
their dÃ®n. It is the ulamÃ¢ who create a link between people and
dÃ®n. The ulamÃ¢ therefore have an important role to play, due to
their knowledge.
Close to QiyÃ¢mah, the ulamÃ¢ will pass away, followed by the
pious. When the ulamÃ¢ are no more, ignoramuses will remain. No
goodness will remain. Only dirt and filth will remain. They will
hold no value in the sight of AllÃ¢h ØªØ¹Ø§Ù„Ù‰. If your child does something
wrong, you will reprimand and admonish him. However, if your
neighbourâ€™s son does the same action, you will not be concerned.
If your wife does something wrong, you will become angry. If a
strange woman does that action, you will not become upset. You
will have feelings for those that are close to you. These people will be of no value before AllÃ¢h ØªØ¹Ù„ÙŠ, as they will have no connection with Him. They will do as they please.
If the pious and ulamÃ¢ do anything wrong, they are corrected and
chastised, since they are beloved to AllÃ¢h ØªØ¹Ø§Ù„Ù‰. Different conditions
are sent down on them so that they may correct themselves.

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd March 2019 17:23

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The argument you presenting is that the whole incident was an elaborate conspiracy.

With the objective to show faux compassion towards muslims and praise Islam...In order to then encourage muslims to compromise water down their deen.

This watering down of deen has been taking place since 9/11 by inferior complexed muslims.

Due to frenzied and relentless media dehumanisation and demonisation of Islam and muslims.

And after every subsequent terrorist attack blamed on muslims.
The media demonisation intensifies. The result being more people joining the modernist watered Islam movement.

So the question to you is this when the formula of presenting muslims and Islam as evil barbaric has been working for them and helping create a watered down Islam.

Why on earth would they need to go opposite direction....and start praising Islam.

Do you live in the sub-continent? that would explain things.

The reference you gave was inter-faith ceremonies in America. Those have been taking place for years. In America and Canada.

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