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You are absolutely correct in quoting this. These matters have been discussed with Ulama and sent to Darul-ulooms, Ulama are aware.
Saudi Moon Sighting for Britain
In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
As-salÄmu ‘alaykum wa-rahmatullÄhi wa-barakÄtuh
Every single argument in favour of following Saudi Moonsighting hinges upon the dependency of lack of a credible Moonsighting system. Saudi Ulama state the same. Hazrat Shaykhul-Islam Mufti Taqi Usmani Saheb (Damat Baraktuhum) states that for countries where there isn’t a credible Moonsighting there is room to follow Saudi Arabia.
Britain has a credible monthly Moonsighting system.
Formally this is the 11th year (running) where Wifaqul Ulama has attempted to and announced the start of Islamic months based on Moonsighting. Data for the past 6 years is publicly available on our site as follows:
Shaykh Muhammad ibn al Uthaymeen (RA) writes:
والصواب أنه يختل٠باختلا٠المطالع ØŒ Ùمثلا إذا كان الهلال قد رؤي بمكة ØŒ وكان هذا اليوم هو اليوم التاسع ØŒ ورؤي ÙÙŠ بلد آخر قبل مكة بيوم وكان يوم عرÙØ© عندهم اليوم العاشر Ùإنه لا يجوز لهم أن يصوموا هذا اليوم لأنه يوم عيد ØŒ وكذلك لو قدر أنه تأخرت الرؤية عن مكة وكان اليوم التاسع ÙÙŠ مكة هو الثامن عندهم ØŒ Ùإنهم يصومون يوم التاسع عندهم المواÙÙ‚ ليوم العاشر ÙÙŠ مكة ØŒ هذا هو القول Ø§Ù„Ø±Ø§Ø¬Ø ØŒ لأن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول ( إذا رأيتموه Ùصوموا وإذا رأيتموه ÙØ£Ùطروا ) وهؤلاء الذين لم ير ÙÙŠ جهتهم لم يكونوا يرونه ØŒ وكما أن الناس بالإجماع يعتبرون طلوع الÙجر وغروب الشمس ÙÙŠ كل منطقة بØسبها ØŒ Ùكذلك التوقيت الشهري يكون كالتوقيت اليومي . [ مجموع الÙتاوى 20 ]
The correct view is that it varies according to when the moon rises in different places. For example, if the moon is sighted in Makkah, and today is the ninth, and it is sighted elsewhere one day before Makkah, and the day of ‘Arafah in Makkah is the tenth for them, it is not permissible for them to fast on this day because it is Eid. Similarly if it so happens that they sight the moon after Makkah, and the 9th in Makkah is the 8th for them, then they should fast the day that is the 9th for them, which is the 10th in Makkah. This is the correct view, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When you see it (the new moon) fast and when you see it break your fast.” Those who did not see the moon in their own location have not seen it. Just as people are unanimously agreed that the times for dawn and sunset vary according to their own location, so too the months are also worked out by location, just like the daily timings. [Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 20.]
Saudi scholars then come go a step further and categorically state that Muslims in Britain should sight the moon (in United Kingdom) or follow the country closest to them.
وإذا كان المسلمون ÙÙŠ بريطانيا يتØرون الهلال ØŒ Ùعلى المسلمين هناك التقيد برؤيتهم ØŒ وإلا Ùبرؤية أقرب البلدان إليهم
If the Muslims in Britain have sighted the new moon, then the Muslims in that country should follow their sighting, otherwise they should follow the sighting of the country closest to them.
جزاك الله٠خيرًا
The role of laymen (and Ulama) is the same which is to acknowledge the difference of opinion and respect it. This is exactly and precisely what needs to be done.
In your seething anger and hatred, you are making random accusations and assumptions about others. If you are a “layman” then don’t assume automatically that everybody who seems to disagree with you is also a “layman”.
Secondly, there is no problems with holding a difference of opinion but the nuances of application of those opinion must be pointed out. Here are two examples:
The first argument was discussed in front of Mufti Yusuf Sacha Saheb (HA) and it is his opinion that UK has a valid and credible Moon sighting system. In my opinion it is than dishonest and disingenuous to apply Mufti Taqi Usmani (HA)’s Fatwa on UK.
The second argument comes from (Maulana) Ilyas Ghumman (HA). In my opinion, it is then dishonest and disingenuous to permit photography to take a trip to London (for Aitekaaf, Chanda collection) but disallow it to defend Islam on youtube.
In order for you to respond to something, you need to understand it first.
Nobody is arguing against the Ulama who disallow and declare photography to be impermissible. Nobody is arguing against the Ulama when they consider visiting London to be a “valid Islamic need” to override this prohibition and get HARD PHOTOGRAPHS. What is being argued with is that they cannot disagree THEN with “other Ulama” who consider appearing on youtube (in digital videos) to defend Islam as a valid need.
Just as the first group of Ulama have used Ijtehaad to classify visiting London a valid need. The second of Ulama have used Ijtehaad to classify “defending Islam on youtube” a valid need. Both opinions should be equally respected; that is the whole point of trying to discuss photography!
The whole issue is indeed about respecting differences of opinion. In your haste, hatred and bigotry you have misunderstood it and flipped it on its head (in your mind’s eye).
Let me repeat again! If the Ulama have the right to override serious and genuine prohibition of photography to visit London (to collect Chanda) then other Ulama have the right to override serious and genuine prohibition to defend Islam.
DO YOU GET IT???
A brother emailed me a few days ago and he said that he understands my point but believes that Islam cannot be defended by indulging in Haram. It is not permissible to use photography (Haram) to defend the Deen.
I asked him, why is it permissible to:
No answer!
All I am asking people to do is to step back, think and then act.
This cannot be undone and I am sure it will be greatly appreciated.
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