Trumps Anti Jewish Second coming of Jesus?

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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2018 09:02

Scores of Palestinians massacred as anger mounts over US embassy move

UN rights experts slam Israel’s disproportionate use of force

Gaza bloodshed an abhorrent violation of human rights: Amnesty

Baby among 58 killed in Gaza as US embassy opens

Israeli forces have killed at least 58 Palestinians and left 2,771 injured during mass protests against the opening of the US embassy in Jerusalem, Palestinian health officials say.

The deaths include 57 adults and children who were shot and a baby who died from the effects of tear gas inhalation.

The bloodshed marks the deadliest day in the region since the 2014 Gaza war, with Israeli soldiers firing at protesters who had to flee for cover.

While both France and Britain called for restraint from Israel, the US blamed Hamas for the violence, with White House spokesperson Raj Shah saying the Palestinian group "is intentionally and cynically provoking this response".

The opening of the US embassy coincided with the 70th anniversary of Israel's founding.

But it also marks the anniversary of the "nakba", or catastrophe, when hundreds of thousands of Palestinians fled or were expelled from present-day Israel during the 1948 war.

Israel captured East Jerusalem in the 1967 Middle East war and annexed it in a move not recognised by the international community.

Alistair Burt, the UK's minister for the Middle East, said: "The violence today in Gaza and the West Bank has been shocking.

"The loss of life and the large number of injured Palestinians is tragic, and it is extremely worrying that the number of those killed continues to rise.

"Such violence is destructive to peace efforts."

South Africa and Turkey have recalled their ambassadors to Israel and the US for "consultations"

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2018 13:17
I happened to listen to the radio this morning where the broadcaster mentioned a reason why Trump has gone ahead with this opening and what's in it for them.

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The evangelical Christians preach that when all the Jew's are back in Israel the second coming of Jesus عليه السلام will happen. When this happens, everyone will convert to Christianity and the Jew's will be dispatched to hell fire!

Why did he (the radio presenter) come to this conclusion?
Because of the two people who gave the opening speech and closing speech!

InshaAllah, more to follow with names and actions.

Very interesting analogy.

I'll probably change the title of this topic later and move it out of the news section.

(Member mkdon101 probably know what I'm talking about)
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2018 14:53
Pastor Who Said Jews Are Going to Hell Led Prayer at Jerusalem Embassy Opening
Robert Jeffress, who gave the opening prayer at the new American Embassy in Jerusalem
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Rev. John C. Hagee, a televangelist who founded Christians United for Israel and leads a San Antonio megachurch, gave the closing benediction.

Known for their comments in the past:
Jeffress: ‘You can’t be saved being a Jew’
Hagee: Hitler was part of God’s plan for Israel


Also:
In a sermon in the late 1990s, Mr. Hagee said the Bible made clear that Hitler and the Holocaust — when about six million Jews were killed — were part of God’s plan to return Jews to Israel. “How did it happen? Because God allowed it to happen,” he said, referring to the Holocaust. “Why did it happen? Because God said my top priority for the Jewish people is to get them to come back to the land of Israel.”


Despite their comments about Jewish people, the two pastors are among the leading pro-Israel voices in the evangelical Christian world. Some evangelicals believe that American foreign policy should support Israel to help fulfill biblical prophecies about the second coming of Christ.

The decision by Mr. Trump to move the embassy from Tel Aviv fulfilled a major campaign promise and handed a victory to hard-line pro-Israel Americans, as well as conservative and evangelical Christians who have long wanted the United States’ diplomatic home to be in Jerusalem.

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According to the radio presenter, Trump is well aware of these things and it is part of their plan to get all the Jews back to Israel so they can all be killed once and for all. They are trying their best to speed up the 2nd coming of Christ!

Another angle was the fact that these men have many many supporters and therefore, by doing this, he has won many more votes!

Is this all part of their bigger plan to rid the Jews at any cost - even if it means bootlicking to the core?

See also CNN
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2018 16:26
Unfortunately I can't find a method for the talk show to be heard again as it requires subscription and payment on the website's podcast

For those of you who do have this facility, heard the radio program, or have heard about this may be able to add to the thread. I only heard the broadcast on and off and did not hear the full phone-in.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2018 18:34
Jerusalem will only be liberated by a new Saladin, says Father Musallam

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14 May 2018 11:52

Only a new Saladin will liberate Palestine from the occupation, Father Manuel Musallam, member of the Christian-Islamic Committee in Support of Jerusalem and the Holy Places, said in video footage released this weekend.

He explained that the road to liberate Jerusalem will start in Gaza and a new Saladin would need to be born to free the country from the occupation, in reference to the first Sultan of Egypt and Syria, Saladin, whose forces captured or killed the vast majority of the Crusader forces and freed Palestine from them in 1187.

He said the new Saladin could be Mohammed, Mahmoud or Manuel, stressing that he may follow any faith but would be able to fight Israel.

Calling for mandatory conscription by all political Palestinian factions, Musallam said he supports fighters who use tunnels to enter Israeli army barracks undetected to capture soldiers and hold them as prisoners of war.
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2018 11:24
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2018 13:03
yes i did hear james discuss this yday but its been around for years. many hardcore evangelics will openly say we hate jews but support israel so jesus can return. was also good to hear many jews calling to say they oppose israel and one even said those who died in holocaust would be ashamed of netanyahu and what irahell says
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2018 13:05
ps cant we too use same logic? soonee all jews come to israel sooner dajjal and issa (as) will come also theres that famous hadith about muslims fighting jews and jews hiding behind trees and rocke,i believe that hadith also refers to israel
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2018 13:23
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Everything has been written to happen at it's given time. No matter what we or they do, it will only happen when destined.
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2018 19:42
Unfortunately prophecies are used for political gains,and it is becoming more confusing with time. Jews have their own messiah (rather two of them) who will establish greater Israel.Christins have their own messiah,(the same Syedena Isa alaihe salam for whom we Muslims are waiting too),with different and misleading details. Jews and Christians will consider him Anti-Christ when he really comes and take the true anti-Christ to be Jesus Christ.

I am not sure if things got mixed up for them due to ignorance or due to the efforts of the forces of dajjal at work. In any case they are in for big surprises in future.

Jews have their own calendar of things to come. According to classical Jewish sources, the Hebrew year 6000 marks the latest time for the initiation of the Messianic Age.The current (2017/2018) Hebrew year is 5778.The messianic age according to them may start earlier than that but not later than Hebrew year 6000. So,they are left with approximately 222 years to prepare the grounds for it.They are in haste,understandably....

Some Jewish scholars question this two hundred years ‘grace’ period. They think the time is up and messiah is about to come. They attribute this 200 years laps to some misunderstanding about calculations in this very complicated Hebrew caleder.

One Jewish scholar puts it as follows :

Thousand years, with the seventh millennium ushering in the cosmic Shabbat, the Messianic Era. Six days a week we work, and on the Shabbat we rest and enjoy the fruits of our labor; the same is true with millenniums.

However, it is certainly possible for Moshiach to come earlier. And we believe, hope, and pray each day that this is the day when Moshiach will come. This is also analogous to the weekly Shabbat, which we have the prerogative of ushering in early on Friday afternoon.

So yes, we don't know exactly when Moshiach will come, but we do know that it will be before the year 6000. (Currently, as I write this response, we are in the year 5768 [2007-8].)

I would only like to add that the anticipation of Moshiach's arrival at any moment has considerably heightened in recent years in light of the pronouncement by the Lubavitcher Rebbe that Moshiach's arrival is very very imminent!”


I have only one comment to make on all the above,so called ‘traditions’ coming down in generations of Jews :

“Their lies lead them astray, Lies which their fathers followed. (Amos 2:4)”
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