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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 20th December 2017 19:31
Out of the fear of Allah Abu Bakr رضي الله عنه would sometimes say, “If only I were grass (so that I would not be held accountable).” He was the greatest companion and the best friend of Nabi ﷺ, yet such was his fear of the almighty! Compared to this we are so complacent in our deen. Such is our complacency if someone were to point out our wrong we would turn around and lecture them on their wrongs, rather than taking heed. Or sometimes people say that only Allah can judge me. They say it as though it is something comforting. Whereas in reality the judgement of Allah alone, is far scarier than the judgement of every single human being on earth.

So if someone advises you, be grateful they are helping you change. Accept it and thank them for pointing it out. Ask them to make dua that Allah grants you the ability to act upon it. This is the response of a person imbued with humility and good character. Even if the adviser has a million faults that is not the time to point it out. That is the time to rectify our own flaws. May Allah make us humble and may His fear enter our hearts as a result of it, Aameen.

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 21st December 2017 17:07
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Assalāmu`alaikum Warahmatullāhi Wabarakatuh.

Hazrat, do you have a reference for this Hadith?

“If only I were grass (so that I would not be held accountable).”
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 21st December 2017 17:22
It is mentioned several times in Hayatus Sahaba.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd December 2017 06:25
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Yes, sister, I know.

I meant the original source.
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd December 2017 10:31


See footnotes.

Also I have read that Siddique Akbar رضي الله عنه used to sigh so often that people started calling him "آواہ".

(Several incidents of such kind are present in Tabaqat ibn Sa'ad, Tareekh-ul-khulafa and Kanzul-Ummal)
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd December 2017 12:15
Jazak'Allah.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 25th December 2017 21:37
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Shaykh Bashshār ʿAwwād Maʿrūf points out in his taḥqīq of Ḥayāt al-Ṣaḥābah (vol. 2, pp. 351–352) that the narration of footnote #2 above is ضعيف جدا. He also criticizes the narration of footnote #3 above.



Shaykh Muḥammad Awwamah also classifies one of the narrators in the narration of footnote #2 above as ضعيف جدا in his taḥqīq of Muṣannaf Ibn Abī Shaybah (vol. 19, p. 133).

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2017 10:37
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Very informative! This tehqeeq of Hayatus Sahaba is not available in English or Urdu? Could you please tell something about Shaykh Bashar Awwad?
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2017 22:58
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As far as I am aware, no, this taḥqīq is not available in English or Urdu. Such taḥqīqāt are not normally translated due to their academic nature anyway.

Shaykh Bashshār ʿAwwād Maʿrūf is one of the senior muḥaqqiqīn still living (حفظه الله). Muftī Husain Kadodia Ṣāḥib included him in his list of muḥaqqiqīn who are generally good.

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 27th December 2017 00:55
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Good catch. One of the reasons why, I have been decided not to use this book because of the unreliable narrations.

EDIT: Removed the work abandoned.
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 27th December 2017 01:12
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As-salam-alaykum:

Any other deobandi books that one should abandon due to unreliable narrations?
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 27th December 2017 10:42
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I believe it's best if you do your own research, and then decide.

There is no doubt Hayatus Sahaba is read by many around the world.

If someone tells me a Hadith can be found in Hayatus Sahaba, I'll go one step further and dig up the orignal soruce, and then ask a reliable Hadith scholar regarding the authenticity of it before I decide to share it with others. Many secondary sources pertaining to the lives of the Sahaba don't interest me personally.
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 27th December 2017 20:06
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The presence of weak narrations isn't a valid reason to completely abandon a book. Riyāḍ al-Ṣāliḥīn of Imām al-Nawawī (رحمه الله) contains many narrations which are ḍaʿīf, some of which are even ḍaʿīf jiddan. al-Adab al-Mufrad of Imām al-Bukhārī (رحمه الله) also contains many ḍaʿīf narrations, even one which has been classified as ḍaʿīf jiddan by Shaykh al-Albānī (والله أعلم بالصواب). If one were to announce one's abandonment of either of these two books, they would surely be considered unreasonable. Your practice of confirming the authenticity of narrations from ʿulamāʾ before sharing them is good, but consistency and justice would demand that you also accept their opinion if they say that a certain book isn't worthy of complete abandonment.

Also note that the guidelines for historical reports are even more lenient than those for prophetic aḥādīth related to faḍāʾil. Refer to this article of Shaykh Sharīf Ḥātim al-ʿAwnī recently translated by Muftī Muntasir (mutakhaṣṣiṣ in iftāʾ and ḥadīth).


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Many secondary sources pertaining to the lives of the Sahaba don't interest me personally.


I don't understand what you mean here. Primary sources aren't guaranteed to be more reliable or authentic. I would be more comfortable reading a secondary source if it has been compiled by a reliable scholar who knows which reports are suitable and thus selects them (to the best of his knowledge and ability).
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 27th December 2017 20:30
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Another interesting point to add: Shaykh Abū Qatādah, a Palestinian-Jordanian Salafī scholar, says in the below clip that although there are some objectionable narrations in Ḥayāt al-Ṣaḥābah, they are fewer than the weak aḥādīth which Shaykh al-Albānī classified as ṣaḥīḥ in his Silsilat al-Aḥādīth al-Ṣaḥīḥah!

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 28th December 2017 02:27
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Assalāmu `alaikum Warahmatullāhi Wabarakatuh.

Jazak'Allah for that insight brother samah, although I knew much of that already.

The book in reference has a pretty negative reputation in my local community, and based on my research there are too many unreliable narrations in Hayatus Sahaba. I ignore these academic thresholds. I for one am not comfortable, nor interested in reading a narration, and then narrating to others when it's been academically scrutinised by the heavyweights from the past. If it's corroborated by other reports, fine. My only exception to this is the Prophet's (SAW) seerrah.

The same applies, and extends to Prophetic narrations concernings virtues.

You are right brother samah regarding secondary sources. My preference is to study history by attending, and listening to khutbahs by reputable 'Ulema. Any narrations that pertain to history and/or Fadhail of Sahaba, I refer back to the original sources. I have a good squad of Hadith buffs over Twelvershia.net who help me out.

Ultimately it's a personal choice. My reluctance from using Hayatua Sahaba should not influence others of it's reliability, but should instead consult with their local 'Ulema.

I apologise if I upset or offended anyone.

EDIT: Removed the word dismissed, and abandonment.
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