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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 6th August 2012 15:24
Assalamu Alaykum

i thought i just share why i am happi to be a deobandi.

as a bangali we are a confussed lot. most of us practise the deoband and brelvi acts but mainly brelvi stuff eg, after someone passes away they do stuff after 40 dyas and do milad shreef in the masjid stadning and giving salam to nabi (pbuh) by saying ya nabi etc.
but we dont follow them all the way eg: kiss out thumbs and the birthday party of nabi (pbuh) etc

after many years i just found these practise very disturbing and would ask myself would the prophet (PBUH) stand in the masjid and do celebrate his b'day like the brelvi

i soon moved to salafi which was very attractive. i enjoyed they sense that they wanted to follow the sunnah and quran only but soon found out they was off track..

soon by the mercy of Allah i found myself learing islam from deoband scholar and i can firmly say i am happi to be a deobandi..

some might ask why share your thought.. i was been lazy one day and was watching youtube and come across brelvi belife and after that i was really happi to be a deobandi..
unsure if its true but recently i found out that they belive Nabi (PBUH) was created from the noor of Allah..
Question number 1 how do you know allah is noor
Q2 what noor is this
Q3 if Nabi (pbuh) was created from the noor of allah that mean he was not created as allah noor is not created......
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 6th August 2012 16:37

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Assalamu Alaykum i thought i just share why i am happi to be a deobandi. as a bangali we are a confussed lot. most of us practise the deoband and brelvi acts but mainly brelvi stuff eg, after someone passes away they do stuff after 40 dyas and do milad shreef in the masjid stadning and giving salam to nabi (pbuh) by saying ya nabi etc. but we dont follow them all the way eg: kiss out thumbs and the birthday party of nabi (pbuh) etc after many years i just found these practise very disturbing and would ask myself would the prophet (PBUH) stand in the masjid and do celebrate his b'day like the brelvi i soon moved to salafi which was very attractive. i enjoyed they sense that they wanted to follow the sunnah and quran only but soon found out they was off track.. soon by the mercy of Allah i found myself learing islam from deoband scholar and i can firmly say i am happi to be a deobandi.. some might ask why share your thought.. i was been lazy one day and was watching youtube and come across brelvi belife and after that i was really happi to be a deobandi.. unsure if its true but recently i found out that they belive Nabi (PBUH) was created from the noor of Allah.. Question number 1 how do you know allah is noor Q2 what noor is this Q3 if Nabi (pbuh) was created from the noor of allah that mean he was not created as allah noor is not created......

W-Salam Brother,

All praise be to Allah (SWT) who guides everyone to the straight path.

Aqeedah about Allah (SWT) being unlike creation:

Barelwees are perhaps referring to this verse of the Qur'aan which talks about Allah (SWT) being Nur:

ٱللَّهُ نُورُ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٲتِ وَٱلۡأَرۡضِ‌ۚ مَثَلُ نُورِهِۦ كَمِشۡكَوٰةٍ۬ فِيہَا مِصۡبَاحٌ‌ۖ ٱلۡمِصۡبَاحُ فِى زُجَاجَةٍ‌ۖ ٱلزُّجَاجَةُ كَأَنَّہَا كَوۡكَبٌ۬ دُرِّىٌّ۬ يُوقَدُ مِن شَجَرَةٍ۬ مُّبَـٰرَڪَةٍ۬ زَيۡتُونَةٍ۬ لَّا شَرۡقِيَّةٍ۬ وَلَا غَرۡبِيَّةٍ۬ يَكَادُ زَيۡتُہَا يُضِىٓءُ وَلَوۡ لَمۡ تَمۡسَسۡهُ نَارٌ۬‌ۚ نُّورٌ عَلَىٰ نُورٍ۬‌ۗ يَہۡدِى ٱللَّهُ لِنُورِهِۦ مَن يَشَآءُ‌ۚ وَيَضۡرِبُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلۡأَمۡثَـٰلَ لِلنَّاسِ‌ۗ وَٱللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَىۡءٍ عَلِيمٌ۬

[24:35] Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The example of His light is that of a niche, in which there is a lamp; the lamp is in a glass – the glass looks like a brilliant star – it is lit by (the oil of) a blessed tree, the olive, which is neither eastern, nor western. Its oil is about to emit light even though the fire has not touched it – (it is) light upon light. Allah guides to His light whomsoever He wills; Allah describes examples for the people, and Allah knows everything well.

HOWEVER we (as Muslims) are NOT SUPPOSED to speculate about Allah (SWT) and try to comprehend because Allah (SWT) is nothing like the Creation...

لَيۡسَ كَمِثۡلِهِۦ شَىۡءٌ۬‌ۖ وَهُوَ ٱلسَّمِيعُ ٱلۡبَصِيرُ

[42:11] ... Nothing is like Him. And He is the All-Hearing, the All-Seeing.

So you shouldn't discuss this matter with anyone, simply confirm your belief in Allah (SWT) and say that he is NOTHING like the creation!

Aqeedah about Sayyidina Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) being human:

Sayyidina Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) is very clearly human as stated in the QUr'aan

قُلۡ إِنَّمَآ أَنَا۟ بَشَرٌ۬ مِّثۡلُكُمۡ يُوحَىٰٓ إِلَىَّ أَنَّمَآ إِلَـٰهُكُمۡ إِلَـٰهٌ۬ وَٲحِدٌ۬‌ۖ فَمَن كَانَ يَرۡجُواْ لِقَآءَ رَبِّهِۦ فَلۡيَعۡمَلۡ عَمَلاً۬ صَـٰلِحً۬ا وَلَا يُشۡرِكۡ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهِۦۤ أَحَدَۢا

[18:110] Say, .Surely, I am but a human being like you; it is revealed to me that your God is the One God. So the one who hopes to meet his Lord must do righteous deed and must not associate anyone in the worship of his Lord..

Jazakullah Khairun

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 26th August 2012 00:56
Mawlana Muhammad Fayyaz Khan Sawati writes, "My respected uncle and teacher, Imam of Ahl al-Sunnah, Muhaddith A'zam of Pakistan, Researcher of his time, Imam of asma' al-rijal, Shaykh al-Qur'an and Hadith, Mawlana 'Allamah Muhammad Sarfaraz Khan Safdar writes in his book entitled Tanqid Matin pages 84 and 85:

"It is our belief and research that the leader of all messengers and Seal of the prophets, Sayyiduna Muhammad (Allah bless him and give him peace) is bashar as well as nur; as per his genus and person he is bashar, but as per his attribute and guidance he is nur. Due to him, the dark world experienced light, the darkness of kufr and shirk was dispersed and the surface of earth was lit with the rays of iman and tawhid. Those who were wandering in the darkness of carnal desires and lusts and were falling in the deep pits of disputes and contentions started marching ahead on the bright highway of peace and guidance. None of the Muslims can deny this reality. But, if he is considered nur in a sense that - Allah forbid - he is denied to be bashar and human being all together, then we will oppose it tooth and nail as it is against the nusus (sources of Islam)."
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 28th August 2012 09:59

Asslamo Allaikum,

This is the question:

"abu safwan" wrote:
.. unsure if its true but recently i found out that they belive Nabi (PBUH) was created from the noor of Allah.. Question number 1 how do you know allah is noor Q2 what noor is this Q3 if Nabi (pbuh) was created from the noor of allah that mean he was not created as allah noor is not created......[/quote]

In my humble and unqualified opinion Shaykh Allamah Muhammad Sarfaraz Khan Safdar (RA) is NOT confirming anything of the sort what is being asked whatsoever...

The Ulamah of Deoband believe that Sayyidina Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) is N-U-R in the sense that he brought guidence.

[quote="Anonymous"]Mawlana Muhammad Fayyaz Khan Sawati writes, “My respected uncle and teacher, Imam of Ahl al-Sunnah, Muhaddith A’zam of Pakistan, Researcher of his time, Imam of asma’ al-rijal, Shaykh al-Qur’an and Hadith, Mawlana ‘Allamah Muhammad Sarfaraz Khan Safdar writes in his book entitled Tanqid Matin pages 84 and 85: “It is our belief and research that the leader of all messengers and Seal of the prophets, Sayyiduna Muhammad (Allah bless him and give him peace) is bashar as well as nur; as per his genus and person he is bashar, but as per his attribute and guidance he is nur. Due to him, the dark world experienced light, the darkness of kufr and shirk was dispersed and the surface of earth was lit with the rays of iman and tawhid. Those who were wandering in the darkness of carnal desires and lusts and were falling in the deep pits of disputes and contentions started marching ahead on the bright highway of peace and guidance. None of the Muslims can deny this reality. But, if he is considered nur in a sense that – Allah forbid – he is denied to be bashar and human being all together, then we will oppose it tooth and nail as it is against the nusus (sources of Islam).”

Shaykh Yahya Ninowy (HA) states in his lectures on Aqeedah Tahawiyyah that anyone who believes that Sayyidina Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) is Nur (as in lights and photons) is a K-A-A-F-I-R

Anyone who believes that Sayyidina Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) being is somehow broken from a part of Allah (SWT)'s being (Nur etc) is also a K-A-A-F-I-R

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