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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 29th December 2014 13:48
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The tragic Peshawar attack carried out by TTP on 16th December 2014 triggered a highly angry response from all corners of Pakistani society. It drew condemnation from, religious and political leaders both national and international. As a result Pakistan saw massive protests against the TTP and the murders.
One group led by a pakistani lawyer Jibran Nasir directed their protests towards the Red Mosque, which they claimed supports the TTP and that the Mosque’s leader Maulana Abdul Aziz did not condemn TTP’s massacre and refused to call the students who died there as martyrs [1]. The ‘vigil moevement’ launched via social media has so far succeeded in producing an unbailable arrest warrant for Maulana Abdul Aziz [5] but, as of the time of writing of this article, he has not been arrested.
It has been claimed by those who side with Lal Masjid’s stance that the ‘Vigil Movement’ led by Jibran Nasir is part of a wider movement to secularize Pakistan and it’s Mosques, using the martyrs of Peshawar tragedy as a propaganda tool. This article will study claims of both sides and present the reader with evidence and a conclusion with which they are free to disagree with.
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 29th December 2014 16:46
Bismillah.

So this Jabran Nasir guy wants Pakistan to recognise Qadiyanis as Muslims and Homosexuals to be given equal rights.

The strategy of the enemies of Islam is pretty simple as advocated by the Rand corporation a decade or so ago.

(1) Fund and train Secular extremists, in the psychology of propaganda and how to use it to promote anti-Islam values.

(2) To finance media organistions and pro-western journalists to do the same.

(3) To finance and encourage the Media organisations and secular activists to Promote Adultery and Homsexulaity amongst the youth so that Islamic values are slowly eroded.

(4) To Promote eloquent speaking pro-western anti-Islam University academics and modernists such as Javed Ghamdi and Maajid Nawaz as the so-called faces of the progressive and compassionate and forward thinking Islam.

(5) To Project Orthodox muslim Scholars, as ignorant, backward, jahils who are preventing Pakistan from Progressing and advancing in the modern world and to ridicule these Scholars regularly. And to invite some of these gullible Scholars on to debate programmes so they can be ridiculed Mufti Naeem (db) seems to be particular favourite.

(6) To help finance and support the western educated and secularised western thinking children of the ruling classes from the Military, the media, politics and industry, into the corridors of power so that these educated elite can undermine Islam.

(7) To encourage the secularists to hijack massive popular social movements such as the Anti-Corruption movement of Imran Khan and the Anti-Terrorist Movement to promote western culture.

Many of the Ulemah seem fast asleep whilst a Modernist revolution seems to be brewing and all this movement needs is a dynamic leader with the mindset of an Attaturk to drive Pakistan towards destruction. On top we have the bearded shrouded Terrorists who are sowing the seeds of despair and feelings of contempt towards the deen, and this is helping the Secularists increase their power base.

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 29th December 2014 17:26
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 29th December 2014 18:11
oh i'm sorry i didn't know the rule...so do i post this topic again following the rule or let this thread stay as it is?
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 30th December 2014 12:31
What's the latest news about arrest warrant of Maulana 'Abdul 'Aziz?
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 30th December 2014 16:04
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ٱلسَّلَامُ عَلَيكُم وَرَحمَةُٱللَّهِ وَ بَرَكَاتُه

Heard that he is hidden and police failed to arrest him.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 30th December 2014 16:59
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Funny thing is even police officer, who was present at Lal Masjid, admits that the supposed reasons arrest warrant has been filed by locals never occured. Here is a response by Mawlana...

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If you know Urdu, then please read this: www.facebook.com/Darsequran1/posts/1003978636284136

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd January 2015 15:25
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 24th January 2015 17:01
LAHORE: Chief of Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Sami (JUI-S) Maulana Sami ul Haq on Friday warned of launching ‘Jail Bharo Tehreek’ (court arrest movement), if government did not refrain from taking action against religious seminaries (Madaris), ARY News reported.

Speaking to media after Friday’s prayer in Lahore, Maulana Sami-ul-Haq said Prime Minister Mian Mohammad Nawaz Sharif want to resume the battle which even former presidents Gen.Rtd. Pervez Musharraf and Asif Ali Zardari failed to win.

JUI-S leader cautioned that PML-N government will not be able to run if any action taken against the religious seminaries.

“Terminology of Good and Bad Taliban is leaders’ own invention”, said Sami-ul-Haq.

He said thousands of Afghan students, studying in religious seminaries, are being dragged back to Afghanistan, which is an open violation of Afghan Policy.

Maulana Sami-ul-Haq said government wants confrontation between religious seminaries and Pakistan Army through their measures.

He blamed United States, India and Israel for creating chaos in the country.

Maulana called Afghan Taliban as representative of Muslim Ummah. While tracing roots of Tehreek-e-Taliban is difficult to ascertain, he added.

source: arynews
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 25th January 2015 02:03
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Maulana called Afghan Taliban as representative of Muslim Ummah. While tracing roots of Tehreek-e-Taliban is difficult to ascertain, he added.


Priceless words!
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 25th January 2015 13:40
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it isn't hard to ascertain, and i remember haqqania giving a fatwa in favor of uzbeks in 2008, but in current political climate after TTP's barbarism in peshawar the media is hounding on all religious personalities to talk about TTP so it is best to distance oneself from TTP in public.
reality is known to everyone especially after emarah's eulogy for hakeemullah in 2013 on their official website and in 2014 a video tribute for previous fallen leaders of TTP among other mujahideen, but in public one can't say those things
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2015 02:27
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In conclusion, Husn e dhann is reserved for pseudo Mujahid groups even after repeated severe violation of Shariah and there is always a "secret story/conspiracy" behind every crime committed by them. Therefore, we should remain silent about them no matter how much harm they do.
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2015 09:52
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This peshawer massacre unveiled TTP.... Afghan taliban is something else and TTP is something else.
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2015 11:40
i am sure afghan taliban know all these things and much more...even if one looks at only their website they would get an idea of where they stand with current affairs and other groups.
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2015 11:44
in afghanistan, many people say same things about emarah as people do about ttp in pakistan...blasts in mosques also occur there, conspiracy theories exist there too , it is just that they have an active website and tacit approval of almost all deobandi ulema....but how do you gauge any alim's tacit approval? that's the catch
you will notice that majority of pakistani deobandi ulema did not condemn TTP by name even after peshawar.
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