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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2014 10:24

Asslamo Allaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakaruh,

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In my lifetime I have noticed a watering down of Istikhara. In my younger days Istikhara was an integral part of “marriage decision” making process so much so that people actually sought whom they considered pious to do the Istikhara for them.

With the rise of failing marriages and people questioning as to why their marriages are failing (despite doing Istikhara and despite seeing wonderful dreams), Istikhara is being reduced to a formality i.e. you do Istikhara but the results can be good or can be bad.

I know that dreams are not the reality of Istikhara (that Is not my question) but is spirituality being watered down for current generation because stark reality (cold hard facts) are so many marriages failing despite Istikhara? Or is it wrong perception on my part?

Jazakallahu Khayran

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2014 10:33
One of the problems is that many have already made their mind up before the istikhara, so when they do perform the istikhara, they are already feeling the positive vibes :) and will go ahead with what they have already decided.

Then these people go round advertising that they made istikhara and it was all positive, so even those people who are supposed to help and guide them, are also being fed the positiveness of the go ahead.

Its a lack of sincerity and the perseverance of the dunya.

Narrows down to love of Dunya and fear of death I guess.
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2014 12:25

Slightly offtopic:

Shaykh Yasir Qadhi (HA) writes:

I was reading some notes from a famous Muslim scholar and judge (Dr. Ali al-Tantawi). In it, he wrote that over the course of half a century as an Islamic judge, he had seen over twenty thousand cases of family dispute and divorce. He writes,

"It is my estimation that in almost all of these divorces, a primary cause was the meddling of the in-laws and extended family. Had the couple been allowed to work things out, I believe that 75 % of these divorces would not have taken place."

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2014 13:40
Waalaikumussalaam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu:

I am not versed in this subject and have only performed istikhara a few times (zero for marriage) however, correct me if I'm wrong:

(1) if you already have a clear decision in your mind, istikhara is not needed; and
(2) why is istikhara being discounted just because a marriage fell apart? If we have full trust in the Guidance, going into (and out of) a marriage should be part of that guidance. We may not fully understand why certain things happen but we do not find our istikhara to be faulty. Furthermore, how does istikhara preclude all other tests - especially when we know we'll be tested till we die?

If the outcome of istikhara is being shared with others then it could be that the person is fairly new to this and is excited and eager to share (in a sense to check to see where they stand - are they doing things right? They are still learning); or, it could be that it is an important/relevant piece of news to share. I think these should be the only two thoughts that come to the minds of others when they evaluate situations where relations appear to disintegrate... and not that the person lacked sincerity. If anything, those who evaluate a person's sincerity in such situations should really think about what this 'test' means for them.

For newbies, like all things istikhara also takes practice and perseverance. It isn't necessary to perform at night nor is it necessary to see a dream; you feel the guidance towards an option - the choice becomes clearer.

Wa'assalaam
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2014 14:13
Istikhārah-Its Method and Some Misconceptions

Istikhārah means to turn to Allāh ta‘ālā and seek goodness from Him. This is because Allāh ta‘ālā knows what we do not know. As Allāh ta‘ālā is fully aware of the end result and consequence of every matter and we merely speculate, we should ask Allāh ta‘ālā to guide us towards goodness in our endeavours or tasks that we are about to embark on. It should be understood that istikhārah is simply a du‘ā like any other du‘ā. However, it has more chance of acceptance in the Court of Allāh ta‘ālā as it has been specifically taught by Rasūlullāh sallallāhu ‘alayhi wasallam to his Ummah. It is a prayer offered to Allāh  ta‘ālā before embarking on a particular course of action or choosing from a number of options, asking Him to guide us towards goodness and the correct and better choice, and to save us from that course of action or choice if goodness lies elsewhere.

A point of great importance in istikhārah is to free one’s mind of all thoughts and inclinations before performing it. What would you expect from a person’s istikhārah when he has already resolved to do something!

Method

The method of istikhārah is to perform two rak‘āt at any time of the day, other than the times when nafl salāh is forbidden. It is preferable to recite Sūrah Al-Kāfirūn in the first rak‘ah and Sūrah Al-Ikhlās in the second. Thereafter one should praise Allāh ta‘ālā, send salāh upon the Prophet sallallāhu ‘alayhi wasallam and then recite the following du‘ā



O Allāh! I seek goodness from You, through Your Knowledge, and I seek strength through Your Power and ask for Your great Bounty, for You are able to do things while I am not, and You know while I do not; and You are the Knower of the Unseen. O Allāh, if You know that this matter [name your matter] is good for me, in respect to my Dīn, my worldly life and the consequence of my affairs, then decree it for me and make it easy for me, and then grant me barakah in it. And if You know that this matter [name your matter] is bad for me in respect to my Dīn, my worldly life and the consequence of my affairs, then turn it away from me and turn me away from it, and decree for me what is good, wherever it may be, and make me be pleased with it. (Al-Bukhārī)

If after the initial istikhārah you remain unsure about something, then perform istikhārah for 3, 5, or 7 days. Inshā’allāh within seven days the heart will feel at ease.

There is also another method of istikhārah in the form of a short du‘ā. If a decision needs to be taken and there is no opportunity to perform two rak‘āt and do istikhārah in the aforementioned way, the following du‘ā should be recited:



O Allāh, grant me goodness, and choose for me.  (At-Tirmidhī)

As mentioned earlier, istikhārah is a du‘ā and Allāh ta‘ālā will accept it and grant you goodness, as long as there are no factors that prevent its acceptance. Obstacles to Allāh ta‘ālā accepting prayers include disobedience to Allāh ta‘ālā, harām earnings, and praying without the conviction that Allāh ta‘ālā will definitely accept the prayer. If there are such obstacles present in one’s life, he should do tawbah in earnest, and then make istikhārah.

Results of Istikhārah

If, as a result of doing istikhārah, a person feels positive, he should proceed accordingly. If his du‘ā has been accepted, he will acquire goodness and success. However, many people feel positive after istikhārah and proceed accordingly, but do not see success. This can be explained by the following:

1. In the du‘ā of istikhārah, a person first asks Allāh ta‘ālā for goodness in one’s Dīn which is the main objective of a believer, and thereafter he asks for the goodness of the world. Therefore, if after istikhārah one finds apparent worldly loss, but his Dīn remains safe, one should believe that through the barakah of istikhārah Allāh ta‘ālā has granted him a minute loss of this world and saved him from a greater loss of the Hereafter.

2. Many times, the du‘ā as a result of istikhārah is accepted and Allāh ta‘ālā grants him goodness, but that goodness takes two forms: one form is that the choice he has made is one hundred percent good, without an iota of harm in it; the other is that he is guided towards the better of two possible outcomes. To understand this, take the example of a person who purchased a house as a result of a positive feeling after istikhārah. After six months, a new neighbour moved in next door and started harassing him. This person needs to understand in this situation that it is through the barakah of istikhārah that he has been saved from a bigger calamity, i.e. if he had chosen another house, the neighbour there would have harassed him even more.

3. Sometimes, a person feels positive after istikhārah despite his du‘ā not being accepted due to the aforementioned obstacles. In this case the positive feeling he was experiencing in his heart was not from Allāh ta‘ālā. It was either a condition that existed before the istikhārah or it was a feeling from Shaytān. Sometimes a young man is deeply in love with a girl and after doing istikhārah he feels very comfortable. What can be expected from such an istikhārah? Are his positive feelings a result of the istikhārah or was that condition present before?

Some Misconceptions

There are a number of common misconceptions about the sunnah practice of istikhārah:

1. One of the main points of confusion is the assumption that if, as a result of doing istikhārah, a positive feeling about a particular course of action results, then it is a guarantee from Allāh ta‘ālā that it will be one hundred percent successful. People incorrectly believe that istikhārah is Divine Revelation. If after istikhārah a person of knowledge and experience was to advise an alternative, their opinion is discarded by saying, ‘I have performed istikhārah and now there can be no change.’ As a consequence, people proceed according to their feelings (e.g. they choose a marriage partner) and then, if some time later things do not work out, they begin to have doubts and negative thoughts about the sayings of Rasūlullāh sallallāhu ‘alayhi wasallam regarding istikhārah. May Allāh ta‘ālā protect us all from such a condition.

2. Likewise, people only do istikhārah nowadays when they are unsure about something. They perceive it to be a remedy for confusion; a way to request Allāh ta‘ālā to fix something for them. Istikhārah should not be limited to occasions when a person has doubts about doing something, or when a person is indecisive about something! Istikhārah is to be performed for all mubāh actions, even if you are 100 % sure about the course of action. For example, you may want to enrol your child in a particular school and have no doubts about it being the right one; even then you should perform two rak‘āt and read the du‘ā of istikhārah so that you are granted goodness and saved from a wrong decision.

3. Nowadays, istikhārah is more or less confined to finding a marriage partner.

4. Many believe it is necessary to perform istikhārah during the night before going to sleep, and compulsory not to talk to anyone after performing the two rak‘āt of istikhārah.

5. Similarly, some believe it to be totally necessary to sleep on the right hand side facing the qiblah.

6. Many expect and desire to see a dream in which one is clearly told that this is the path for you. Seeing a dream guiding towards a particular choice is not necessary in istikhārah. One needs to pay attention to the inclination of the heart whether one sees a dream or not. In all circumstances, the decisive factor is the inclination of one’s heart.

7. Another common misconception is to ask others to perform istikhārah on one’s behalf. Many feel that we are sinful, so what good will our istikhārah do? Thus they search for a pious god-fearing person and ask him to perform istikhārah for them. Rasūlullāh sallallāhu ‘alayhi wasallam did not state any condition that a sinful person cannot perform istikhārah, and moreover, leaving sin and repenting is not an act of difficulty. One should leave sin, repent and perform istikhārah himself. This practice of asking others to perform istikhārah is not in accordance to the sunnah. Yes, when making istikhārah for a marriage partner, it is permissible for the parents of the boy/girl to perform istikhārah. This is because this is a need of the parents too, as it is their responsibility to marry their children into suitable families.

Finally, with istikhārah, istishārah (consultation) is very important too. One should, before, during, and after performing istikhārah, seek consultation from those well-wishers who are learned and experienced in the relevant matter. The Prophet sallallāhu ‘alayhi wasallam said, “The one who does istikhārah will not be unsuccessful, and the one who consults will not see regret.” (At-Tabrānī)

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2014 15:58
So in effect practice makes perfect and people seem to only resorting it when needed and don't have practice to interpret results.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2014 16:35
I know this might be slightly off topic, but is still related to Istikharah. It amazes me how some people who are not even consistant with their 5 daily prayers and thus have a quite weak connection with Allah, expect some Ilham from Allah when performing Salatul Istikharah once in a while or even a year. Same with people who are negligent with basic commandments like Salah and expect Allah to let rain fall on their fields or let wheat appear miracously in their grind when performing Salatul Hajjah.

Too much emphasis is put on once-in-a-lifetime-moments instead of perpetual connection with Allah. Sorry for going off...
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2014 16:56
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Very true. The only time I hear people talking about istikhara is at times of liking the opposite gender. And they usually are youngsters who don't even practice properly.

Otherwise, yes, people with more Taqwa and knowledge use it for many more things.
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2014 21:13
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Resort to it if they have knowledge about it and even then, yes, as you said... they may not know how to interpret results.

In answer to the original question though:

"...I know that dreams are not the reality of Istikhara (that Is not my question) but is spirituality being watered down for current generation because stark reality (cold hard facts) are so many marriages failing despite Istikhara? Or is it wrong perception on my part?"

Insha'Allah this is a wrong perception otherwise the implication is that those who have knowledge are opting not to guide others to it because istikhara doesn't appear to be working (naudhubillah)... or... we are opting not to perform it because we believe it doesn't work (naudhubillah). It may be that we don't know how to interpret the result but it may also be that there is khayr in whatever happens eventually anyway (may appear to be 'failing' but who are we to know if it is or isn't... perhaps that decision saved us from something worse or that decision opened up things we would not have otherwise known etc. Allahu Alam).
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2014 21:21
Everything comes to an end marriage, life, wealth, health etc. I don't believe it's down to istikhara, whether it's performed or not performed, fate has it's final say.

But I'm not saying istikhara shouldn't be performed...seeking guidance in all matters is important, but sometimes it's just fate.
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2014 21:26
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2014 21:44
By way of example, a sister was asked to assist with an effort that she admired. The effort carried some responsibility and she was not sure she was ready for such a task. She was (and still is) truly just learning the basics and she made a point to let the sister who invited her know about this (now, it seems everyone says "I'm a beginner, I'm not capable" etc. but in this sister's case, she seriously was just a beginner). Regardless, when she was invited to the task (which she felt was an opportunity to earn the pleasure of Allah Ta'aala), the sister did not feel a strong inclination towards a particular decision. After brief discussions with the sister who invited her and others (mashwara), during which the sister who invited her actually hesitated and seemed to be pulling back but ultimately kept the invitation open, the invited sister chose to take a few days to think and to do istikhara - she didn't feel comfortable jumping into such a decision. After istikhara and mashwara, the sister felt an inclination in her heart (no dream) to accept the invitation and so she did. This was a big thing for her because she felt she was learning and experiencing things for the first time. She had and still has full trust in the decision she took. Unfortunately, shortly afterwards the sister experienced quite disturbing reactions from others involved in the same effort and she was basically pushed out. Has she blamed istikhara? No. She is a beginner yet she still feels full trust in the decision. She is watching to see where things go and she has indicated that there is khayr in everything that has happened ***for everyone involved *** no ill feelings or baddua towards anyone. She is not put off from performing istikhara at all nor did she reserve it for 'marriage' related issues. It was suggested and explained to her and with some understanding, masha'Allah she performed it. That said, had it not been suggested, she likely still would not know about it.

All that to say: knowledge and understanding are key, mashwarah and intention are also very important. Insha'Allah we can all guide each other to good and encourage perseverance especially when things don't appear to work out the way we think they should. Insha'Allah we can all guide each other to sabr and shukr despite the outcome.
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 21st October 2014 09:39
The point I am trying to make is that many people are saying that their marriage has failed "despite" Istikhara, I didn't say "due to" Istikhara. I am finding this complain a number of times from many Muslims.

I have learned that in the Hanafi Madhab Mushwara is superior to Istiukhara because Mushwara comes from the Qur'aan and Istikhara is Hadeeth so is the reason for apparent watering down because Istikhara results are subject to interpretation while Mushwara discussions are candid and open?

I have been thinking about this for a while because so many people have told me about this issue...
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 21st October 2014 09:55
For me its very simple Alhamdulillah. No matter what the issue Istikhara works like this.... Once Istikhara is done, the matter is left until something occurs which settles the heart either way, knowing with firm conviction that this is from Allah ta'ala and is in my best interest. On many occasions, some time after making the Istikhara, i have been convinced that I was saved from making decisions which would have led to bad consequences......like once it concerned doing something which for some reason just didn't work out for me. Later I sure was glad because the JINN were involved and some of those who had gone ahead had a Bad EXPERIENCE ) :

Taalibah: your mentioning taqdeer is very interesting....most definitely its taqdeer but like du'a, all part of taqdeer? Another subject maybe
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 21st October 2014 09:57
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Take the post above for example. guest 218443

One makes istikhara, and then feels the outcome was unfair. It is highly likely that the istikhara was positive but the person just wasn't able to comprehend something that they were not expecting. In such cases I wouldn't blame the istikhara or the others, I would blame myself for not understanding or not having the capacity to work or be told what to do. Maybe I would feel the same if I wasn't able to take a nudge or correction or even worse, If I was apologised to and I didn't carry on with a positive attitude, then I'd have to look into my heart and my intentions and work out why I'm being so naive. I guess Muadh, you are right, satanic whispers can make a positive situation into something very negative.

People need time to adjust and fit in, whether it is for marriage, work, friends or whatever. The istikhara can be positive but if we are negative, lol, don't blame anyone else.
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