All that does not negate the fact that the mufta bihi is still Makruh Tahrimi,[/quote]
In reply to this quote of mufti abu hajirah, you said in the ilmhub thread;
Muadh Khan wrote:
No disagreement after this paragraph,
at all. [/quote]
And in the OP of THIS thread you said:
Muadh Khan wrote:
He (HA) is relying on Fatawaa of Mutakhireen so I know where he is coming from.[/quote]
So basically, you said you accept this ruling as given by Mufti Abu Hajirah (which I've also quoted multiple times in my own thread). Then in the remainder of this thread you proceed to attempt to disprove the makruh tahrimi position and continue to call it cultural! Sincere question: Are you not contradicting yourself?
Just because the fatwa of Makruh Tahrimi was given by the muta'akh-khireen does NOT mean it is cultural.
In the OP, you basically admitted to the ruling of makruh tahrimi being at least part of the madhab, so this is why I told you to retract your following statements:
[quote="Muadh Khan"]Attending the Mosques may be discouarged but it isn't HARAM or MAKROOH-TAHREEMI by any stretch of imagination.
[quote="Muadh Khan"]...Deobandi position is actually cultural and not based on either the
Madhab or Qur’aan and Sunnah.
Furthermore, you and Maulana Yasin made the statement that the 3 fataawa presented in the "Women are Different" thread are
"personal opinions". This is also wrong. How are they personal opinions when these fataawa are based on the mufti bihi position and are clearly mentioned in the books of fiqh?!
The fatwa in our times that of Makruh Tahrimi. This has been mentioned by Mufti Abu Hajirah himself many times:
[quote="Mufti Abu Hajira"]As a hanafi however,
the fatwa in our times is that of Makrooh , since the fitna is established in khurooj an nisaa.