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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2013 06:35
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To perform bayah at the hands of a shaykh is Sunnah, whereas to seek guidance is compulsory.
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2013 08:37
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Meaning if you don't seek guidance from somebody (a shaikh) you're, in fact, leaving out a waajib/compulsory act...?

I don't get it. What if you don't have any issues so serious, that necessitates seeking guidance from a shaikh?
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2013 09:12
It's not about whether we have issues or not....it's about informing the shaykh of our condition...I.e. our daily practices in ibadah, strengths weaknesses...just by staying connected the shaykh through his training can asses the condition of our hearts...I.e. we may be suffering from pride, arrogance, backbiting etc without even realizing..by keeping contact with the shaykh, he gives advice according to our needs.

Sometimes even an act of permissibilty could be affecting our hearts in such a manner that it could be avoiding us from being humble or free from compassion etc. Or even developing egoism or pride within us.

Through the shaykhs guidance our heart starts dispelling evil traits of the heart....and starts developing good qualities such as humbleness, love, humility, kindness, tolerance, patience etc..etc.

This is where the misconception lies we think we know ourselves...but we cannot identify our weaknesses....even a shaykh will have gone through the gruelling process of being assessed and reformed.
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2013 09:13
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Let me make it more professional
Without Bayah, you can still have an Islahi Taluq?
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2013 09:26
Yes definitly
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2013 09:37
In fact it is encouraged, as many initially become very enthusiastic and become obsessed with taking bayt, when our prime objective should be to reform and rectify our hearts....if the heart is in order the rest of our body is in order...if our heart has an issue the knock on affect will be shown through our body..ie. our actions. (the way we feel, I.e. uncertainty, depression, anxiety, discontentment, uneasiness)

Many people take bayt but cease to even keep in contact with the shaykh for spiritual reformation...therefore taking bayt is pointless...some people continue with islah sometimes 10, 20 yrs but never persue taking bayt.
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2013 09:58

There are many shops like this who are trying to sell Tassawuff, don’t fall for it and only go for genuine Ulamah & Mashaykh

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2013 10:24

Also keep this in mind...

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2013 10:30
And sisters too! Excellent images
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2013 12:15
Alright. Jazakallah 4 the explanations. I always knew its good and commendable to seek guidance from a shaikh, but its the first time i'm hearing its waajib.

So if someone doesn't take guidance from a shaikh, he/she will be sinning...? just like how witr salaah is waajib and omitting is a great sin.

Plz excuse me if i'm repeating myself.... just trying to get this clear.
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2013 12:36
I'm not in a position to state whether a person is committing sin or not....I can only share my understanding with you, yes to rectify your heart is compulsory.....I know people who are thriving just by listening to talks, reading books, sitting in pious company and implementing what they learn.

I would highly recommend you contact a local Mufti or ask an authentic source and ask this ruling, I can only share my personal knowledge on the subject.
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2013 12:57

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Sister, don't get confused.

Sorry for going against the grain but its neither Wajib nor compulsory to have a Shaykh. Tassawuff is one of many mechanisms to get to Allah (SWT), Jihad is another, Tableeghi Jamaat is another, studying in a Daul-uloom is another, joining an Islamic group or movement is another, doing charitable works is another and many of the methodologies of our times (Tassawuff & Tabeleegh) are based on personal Ijtehad of Ulamah and differ from the original ones parctised by Salaf.

There are Sisters on facebook who are helping out hundreds of Muslim women around the world and providing Islamic guidance and its their way to get to Allah (SWT). There are Sisters who make tea for people attending Friday prayers in remote parts of USA and its their way to get to Allah (SWT).

You can seek to benefit from all of them or one of them (exclusively). What is Wajib and compulsory upon you is to seek your Islamic knowledge from reliable sources.

Tareeqas didn't even exist in Islam for the first good few hundred years, post compilation of Hadeeth, post formulation of Schools of Fiqh etc.

Being in a Tareeqa is like being coached by an Expert Coach (there is a long post on this from me on SF somewhere about coaching and Tassawuff), summary as follows:

  1. You don't need a Coach to excel in professional Sport
  2. BUT a Coach can see problems in your technique and offer tips
  3. Its upto you to work hard at it and improve...Having a Good coach doesn't mean anything if you are not willing to put in the hard hours!
  4. Not all Coaches are the same, some you you may be compatible with; some you may not be so you look around...Coach is qualified but may not be the right Coach for *YOU*
  5. Having a Coach makes life easier but its not indispensable.

To understand original Tassawuff and what it entailed please read "The Sunnah Way of the Sufis"

A lot of what is said by Ulamah/Mashaykh must be understood in the context of India/Pakistan where primarily people adhered to (one Madhab) and lived a largely rural life in the times of Akabir. We in the west have a multi-ethnic, multi-Madhab, multi-lingual society and bombarded by Anti-Islamic propaganda. Even Western (Deobandi) Ulamah & Mashaykh largely speak in an Indian/Pakistani tone and that's why majority of Muslims in the west can't relate to Deobandees.

I apologise for disagreeing with our Brothers and Sisters in Tassawuff.

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2013 13:38
Brother muadh...what are your thoughts on self rectification....do you believe that to self rectify yourself is an act of compulsion....regardless of being connected to a spiritual guide?
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2013 13:52

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Aapa,

I am not knowledgeable in Tassawuff so its just a laymen's input. My understanding is that essence of Tassawuff is Tazkiyah (Islah in Deobnadi lingo) and it is this which is declared Wajib and it is Wajib (compulsory) on every Muslim man or woman. Not Bay’t or connecting to a Shaykh etc.

Shaykhl-Islam (Maulana) Hussain Ahmed Madani (RA) has written that Tazkiyah (Islah in Deobnadi lingo) can happen without a Shaykh and it theoretically can but it is extremely difficult and even well nigh impossible for most people. Plus why would you someone want to critique themselves? Doesn’t make any sense! We don’t mark our own homework, do we? Very few people are able to critique their own work, look at the articles which I wrote yesterday and it was obvious that I am incapable of critiquing my own writing!

That takes us to the next question which is that if Tazkiyah (Islah in Deobnadi lingo) is the main idea that it can be done in Darul-uloom setting, Maktab setting, Jamaat setting and anything else (suitable for it).  Traditionally, one teacher did it all.

Tassawuff setting is more specialised (and more organised) but people like me (learnt our basics) from going in Tableeghi Jamaat and it taught us who to sleep, eat etc.

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2013 13:58
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Thanks a lot. That puts everything into perspective. May Allah reward you and apa taalibah for your time and responses.
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