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I do not know what the question was but I can imagine what it may have been…
Akabir of Deoband were ALWAYS on the Aqeedah of the Salaf, not Salafees (please understand before objecting and if you don’t understand don’t comment until you learn the details).
They never objected to Asharees or Maturidees OR considered them to be outside of Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaah but they were never primarily Asharees or Maturidees but preferred the Aqeedah of the Salaf.
- The Aqeedah of Salaf is “Tafwid al-Mana” this means when the Qur’aan talks about physical attributes of Allah Ta’ala i.e. Yad etc Salaf said, “We believe in them as it is but we consign the meaning and reality of it to Allah Ta’ala”
- The Aqeedah of Salafees is “Tafwid al-Kayfiyyah” this means when the Qur’aan talks about physical attributes of Allah Ta’ala i.e. Yad etc Salafees say, “Yad means hand but we do not know the reality and we state that any resemblance with human or any other hand is impermissible”
Salafees are going ONE STEP FUTHER then Salaf!
“Deobandees” were and are on the Aqeedah of the Salaf, particularly “Deobandees” of Pakistan because they are heavily influenced by Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA)
“Deobandees” of Pakistan never had as many issues and still don’t. They refute Salafees and Ahl-e-Hadeeth while being on the Aqeedah of the Salaf. This is one of the reason why “Deobandees” of Pakistan have always had a good, strong relationship with Arabs (in Jihad, Khilafah etc) because there are less conflicts in Aqeedah. “Deobandees” of Pakistan are also fairly relaxed about Taqleed Shaksi in contrast to “Deobandees” of India and the west and they tend to focus more on Jihad, Islamic revival, Khilafah etc.
The refutation of “Deobandees” of India to the Salafees are different to refutations of “Deobandees” of Pakistan in some respect because they are coming from two different perspectives.
“Deobandees” in the west (particularly South Africa) went and studied in Syria/Jordan and their discourse may be influenced by them because those scholars refuted “Salafees” and affirmed Asharees and Maturidees. “Deobandees” in the west (unlike Deobandees of Pakistan) refute Salafees mainly from an Ashari/Maturidi perspective.
“Deobandees” in the west are influenced by India much more then Pakistan, had a long discussion with a scholar last night about this issue and its impact on Western Muslims.
Anyways….Please start this debate in a different thread and do not derail this…
The reason my discourse and refutations of (Salafi) Aqeedah differed on Sunniforum and elsewhere is because I am firmly in the Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) and the Pakistani camp on the issue. It is because I firmly believe Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) to be a GENIUS and far ahead of his time.
As explained by Shaykhul-Islam (Mufti) Taqi Usmani (HA) and other Ulama in Pakistan, Ibn Taymiyyah (RA) is gone ONE STEP BEYOND but he is not a Kaafir for advocating “Tafwid al-Kayfiyyah”
P.S: The English speaking Pakistanees read forums and articles from “Western Deobandees” and get confused on the matter when their Ulama and country do not really have Aqeedah wars like the way in the West (or India) etc. They assert themselves to be Ashari/Maturidi (after reading Aqeedah issues in English) when their own Ulama affirm “Aqeedah of the Salaf” while simultaneously confirming that Ashari/Maturidi Aqeedah is part of Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaah.