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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 19th June 2019 19:24
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48687744

Never heard of him before ( bit like those YouTube fools) but this imam been sacked by his Islamic school for simply retweeting picture of israel being relocated in usa and saying women should take precautions to avoid men attacking them.

The mosque n institutions throwing him under the bus ought to be called out and boycotted. If he is anti semitic to them what to those idiots say about hadith

“The Hour will not begin until you fight the Jews, until a Jew will hide behind a rock or a tree, and the rock or tree will say: ‘O Muslim, O slave of Allah, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him – except the gharqad (a kind of thorny tree).’

Will they reject this hadith or even stoop to calling the Prophet (saw) anti semitic too? I can understand dumb kuffar jumping on bandwagon but so called Muslim?
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 20th June 2019 00:10
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“An anti-Semite used to mean a man who hated Jews.
Now it means a man who is hated by Jews.”– Joe Sobran


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The Israelis and, to be sure, many diaspora Jews know exactly how the expression has been weaponized. Former Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni explained how it is done“Anti-Semitic”…”it's a trick, we always use it.”


www.darkmoon.me/2019/the-growing-anti-semitism-scam/

I will email the school tomorrow inshaAllah
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 20th June 2019 08:30
Most, if not, all these people who jump to the Anti Semitic banner are Gentiles.

Do these Gentiles even know what these Semites think of them?

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The most famous of the anti-gentile teachers is Simeon bar Yochai. He is often quoted by antisemites in his sayings: "The best of gentiles kill it, the best of snakes cut its head, the most pious of women is prone to sorcery."


But as mentioned, it's a weapon and what the one with weapon demands, wins!

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Torah says: "The Torah outlawed the issue of a gentile as that of a beast." A gentile midwife was not to be employed for fear of the poisoning of the baby. The gentiles should be dealt with caution in cases of using them as witness in a criminal or civil suit. The gentile does not honor his promises like that of a Jew. The laws of the Torah were not to be revealed to the gentiles, for the knowledge of these laws might give gentiles an advantage in dealing with Jews. Shimon ben Lakish wrote that "A gentile who observes Sabbath deserves death".


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Similar anti-gentile remarks have been expressed by the late chief Sephardi Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, in which he stated in a sermon in 2010 that "The sole purpose of Gentiles is to serve Jews". He said that gentiles served a divine purpose: "Why are Gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. That is why Gentiles were created.


Hash Tag Anti Semites seems to be working wonders against almost anyone.

Why not #AntiGentile

The soul of the Jew is far superior than that of the Gentile :(

But the holder of a single weapon will over power 100 unarmed men!

Partly sourced from jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/6585-gentile

Otherwise, all available in Wikipedia (not a very good source)
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 20th June 2019 20:54
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Salaam,

No reply from them today. I emailed after 5pm

Will follow up tomorrow inshaAllah
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 21st June 2019 08:45
In Support of Imām Abdullah Patel
Posted by: Ustadh Abu Haneefah Sohail in Current Affairs, Latest, Latest Posts, Politics, UK 21 hours ago 2 Comments

When Imām Abdullah Patel questioned the five candidates for the leadership of the Conservative Party about the structural racism and Islamaphobic rhetoric faced by the Muslim community, there were many outcomes that could have occurred. Front runner and former foreign secretary Boris Johnson could have reached out to the Muslim community and apologised for his offensive rants comparing Muslim women to bank robbers and letterboxes. The former Secretary of State for Education and Justice, Michael Gove, could have apologised for the Trojan Hoax fiasco in Birmingham. The current Foreign Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, could have apologised for his support for anti-Muslim tweets by Donald Trump. Home Secretary Sajid Javid could have apologised for ethnic slurs stereotyping “Asian paedophiles”. [1]

Instead, what occurred was the most cynical attack on the principle that underpins all free and fair societies – accountability of politicians to the people. Imām Abdullah Patel has been attacked and vilified for no other reason than he dared to ask the future Prime Minister of this country to comment on whether “words had consequences”. [2] Their response was pathetic, and it demonstrated the reality which was implied in the question – that the Tory Party has a problem with anti-Muslim hatred.

So, less than 24 hours after the BBC debate had ended, the consequences for Imām Abdullah Patel have been devastating: he has been suspended as Imām by Masjid e Umar in Gloucester and also been suspended as Deputy Head at Al-Ashraf Primary School, both pending investigations. The message to the Muslim community is clear and unequivocal: do not dare raise your head above the parapet and question the privileged ruling elite about anti-Muslim hatred.

It is interesting to observe the mechanisms by which Imām Abdullah Patel was targeted. An inactive twitter account attributed to him had been scoured to find ‘controversial’ tweets that criticise ‘Israel’, and caution women against putting themselves at risk of assault. To be more specific, his twitter feed was used to share a graphic of ‘Israel’ superimposed on a map of the US with the title, “Solution for Israel-Palestine conflict – relocate Israel into United States”. No mention of hatred of Jews or their religion. No disparaging caricatures of Jewish people. Just good old-fashioned political satire criticising ‘Israel’s’ illegal occupation and the US’s unqualified support. If this alone is sufficient to get Imām Abdullah Patel suspended, pending an investigation, then one would expect calls for imminent anti-Zionist Jewish academics such as Noam Chomsky, Professor Ilan Pappe, and the 240 or so ‘Israeli’, Jewish academics [3] that peacefully challenge the ‘Israeli’ occupation to be suspended as anti-Semitic Jews??

The Imām’s advice to women, in summary, is: ‘do not be alone with a man’. This is the orthodox position held by Sunni schools of thought; namely, that it is prohibited for an adult man and woman, who are not related, to intentionally put themselves in a position of seclusion. It is the same position adopted and propagated by Masjid e Umar and Al-Ashraf Primary School and it is the same advice given to trainee teachers in mainstream schools to guard against false allegations by students.

Now, just take a step back to a few hours before Imām Abdullah Patel became the centre of this story. All of the Tory candidates had struggled pathetically to give a meaningful response to the question of structural racism and Islamophobia in the Conservative Party. Boris Johnson said his great-grandfather was a Muslim, Jeremy Hunt said his three children were half Chinese, Michael Gove flipped the question into a cheap shot against Jeremy Corbyn, Rory Stewart said “al-Salāmu ʿalaikum”, and Sajid Javed made a vague reference to an external enquiry. No concrete actions. No policy decisions. Not even an acknowledgement that there is a problem. This is the reality of the future Prime Minister and leader of the Conservative Party, and this is also the reality of how a valid and meaningful debate into anti-Muslim hatred in public life was derailed by the far-right press. It is incredible that a modest Imām can be suspended from all his public duties for tweets deemed by the far-right media as ‘controversial’, while an entire panel of prospective prime ministers can simply dismiss any questions about their own anti-Muslim bigotry.

And what of our own institutions? Our mosques? Our schools? Our charities? The purpose of having these institutions is to safeguard the interests of Islām and the Muslim in the UK and ensure the Muslim community is represented in public life. These institutions are supposed to help strengthen the identity of future generations of young Muslims and support our up and coming leaders. What message does the suspension pending investigation give to any young Muslim who wants to speak out against social injustice? What message does it give to other institutions in civic society if our own Muslim institutions are unwilling to stand up to intimidation and bullying of Muslim community leaders?

At this juncture, I can think of no quote more fitting than the words of Martin Niemöller, who was a prominent pastor in Germany, an outspoken public critic of Adolf Hitler and had spent the last seven years of Nazi rule in concentration camps:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out — because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out — because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out — because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me. [4]

Source 21cISLAM
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 21st June 2019 09:13
He's not guilty. He said nothing wrong. Millions if not billions share the exact same view.

He became guilty the moment the school threw him under the bus. They panicked. Darul Uloom London did the exact same thing when the dispatches program aired.

Muslims do not know how to deal with media, they do not know how to use the attack positively. How to use their attacks against them. Learn from Galloway. When his views are attacked, he doesn't just turn it around on them but clearly justifies how the questioner is a hypocrite and turns the interview into a one sided onslaught.

When you are on the truth and there's nothing to hide then why panick? What chance to these organisations have against Dajjal if they can't handle a few leeches in thr media?

The time to be strong and brave is when it happens. Their web site ran out of bandwidth for and first time in a long time so people did visit. That was the time to release a fair statement and DEFEND their head teacher.

I will wait for their reply still and see what they have to say
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 21st June 2019 09:23
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So, less than 24 hours after the BBC debate had ended, the consequences for Imām Abdullah Patel have been devastating: he has been suspended as Imām by Masjid e Umar in Gloucester and also been suspended as Deputy Head at Al-Ashraf Primary School, both pending investigations. The message to the Muslim community is clear and unequivocal: do not dare raise your head above the parapet and question the privileged ruling elite about anti-Muslim hatred.


Soon after 911, I was advised by elders and those of my age to remove any book that was about Jihad. I didn't have any books of such nature that would incite hatred or terrorism but of course when something is taken out of context, then yep, anyone and everyone can be guilty as charged!

My response to them was, "Okay, let me start with the Quran! Let me take the Quran out"

And that conversation ended there:)
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 21st June 2019 09:30
Well the witch hunt is continuing a number of the tabloids have made it a lead story.

And a number of muslims writing opinion pieces and condemning the Imam.

Fact is the media and political establishment are happy with the status quo...They dont want there right to demonise muslims curbed..and demonising muslims is national policy.

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 21st June 2019 10:40
Islam21c has come out in support as have cage. Funny deo fools who spend their entire time cursing salafis are the ones throwing their own under the bus whislt their sworn enemies are defending him. Strange times we live in.
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd June 2019 20:20
I spoke to the school today and they reassure us that the suspension is standard procedure while the investigation is ongoing. Their main concern was for the school and this step was needed to stop further attacks against the school.

It's been very difficult for them and they've taken advice and will continue to do so.

I won't lock this thread yet as long as there's no further attacks on the school. Sharing useful information based on this subject might be useful still.

The person in question is not to be mistaken with other prominent scholars with the same name.
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd June 2019 20:23
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You must be the right type of Muslim with the right type of mindset to be allowed into the political arena. A Sajid Javid/Maajid Nawaz-type whose practice of Islam is non-existent and politically kow-tows to the neocons and pro-Israel lobby, would be ideal.

Are you a confident Muslim who asserts mainstream Islamic and political views that do not pander to the aforementioned circles? Forget democracy and all that British Values nonsense and prepare to have the weight of the establishment bear down on you and your livelihood targeted.


Read more: coolnessofhind.wordpress.com/2019/06/21/how-an-imam-expos...

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