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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2019 18:38

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not been on here much lately but surpised no one has bought up the issue of this shamima begum story. shows how out of touch we are and the bubble we live in. there are discussions on clown princem muftis, freemasons which doesnt affect us directly but something that has a direct impact on us no one has discussed.

about a week ago parliment passed a new law making it easier to strip citizens of citizenship and now they have their first guinea pig. we under no illusion, had this been a white girl she would have been bought back on a first class ticket.

shamima regardless of her crime if any is a UK BRITISH BORN citizen. she isnt the first nor will be the last. many aid workers in syra have suffered the same. we all saw what happened to the black people off the windrush generation. what chance do brown muslims have? today its for joining isis tomorrow it be for skipped a red light. if you commit a crime the uk can just strip ur citizenship and bypass a trial. dark days ahead. looks like our parents and grandparents were right when they would have a suitcase ready saying we dont know how long we will be welcomed for. below is a detailed thread highlighting the issue.

another thing sickening me is how many non muslims are even calling this action by uncle tom sajid as wrong but many 'muslims' in order to prove their coconutness are support this move.

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2019 20:10

No one here supports isis!

She ran away after being deluded. She doesn't regret it because she's still deluded.

She has gone through terrible things, we know.

What good has she done?

Did she come out and say she was misled? Did she apologies?

Her citizenship hasn't been revoked yet, they can still appeal. Previous cases have appealed and they won, so it's not final yet.

But on what grounds should we support her? Just because she's not white?

That's an honest question.

This is just one case, I'm pretty sure there will be more cases of white Muslim's too. The difference will be, the country of origin of the white folks.

Is got nothing to do with the colour of the skin. It's the action and reaction!

The Kuffar created isis, now they have to put up with the consequences. And unfortunately, so do we. But that doesn't mean we now start supporting those who were wrong. Had she shown regret and remorse, then I'm sure there would've been more support!

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2019 21:41

I'm with brother abu mohammed on this one.

This is what happens when one desires to go do jihad against his fellow men and nation.

At times you have to pay the consequences for your actions. She'd be smart to settle in the Middle East or the subcontinent. If she steps foot in England, she'll be arrested and more than likely have her baby taken away from her.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2019 21:59

did u two even read what i wrote and posted? who the hell is talking about isis? its about the bigger picture and long term affects. let me say in bold TODAY ITS A GIRL WHO JOINED ISIS. tomorrow if could be YOU and YOUR family who are stripped of citizenship over something trivial.

what did the windrush genreation do? nothing they were loyal british citizens they went back to jamica for weddings and banned at airport. no wonder why we muslims are suffering if we are this naive. as for isis so what? she is British and they should deal with her.

anyway she be back soon, there are similar cases people won appeal but this girl is a win win situation for the govt. if she stays out they please the racists and if she comes back they be huge anger and protests then the govt will past new laws saying govt ruling override courts.

just look at abu qatadah. had he been a deo this forum and deos would be marching for the rest of their lives but cos he wasnt they didnt care. he was kicked out simply cos of a witch hunt. never once charged never mind convicted.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2019 22:13

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2019 22:18

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2019 22:20

pretty sad non muslims can see the issue with shamima being strpped of her citizenship but muslims here think its fine and think they are insulated. get it through your heads.if ur parents or grandparents are pak ind beng or whatever u can be stripped too. but hey isis isis isis isis isis

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2019 22:22

In the future it is perfectly possible that any muslim who speaks out against Zionism, might be labelled anti-semitic and get stripped of their citizenship.

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2019 22:29

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who the hell is talking about isis?

Why is she in this state today?
Should we talk about facebook, instagram?

She is in this situation because of isis!

If this sister was in Palestine our Burma, then the response would be completely different. But she isn't. She's out there for the fake caliph.

You are talking about an isis member, so automatically, you are talking about isis.

There were and are many injustices around the world and we should allow support and speak up, but not when the accused is not apologetic.

It's not about the bigger picture. It's about one case for now.

She would've been allowed to come back straight away, but she was/is being delusional and supportive of terrorists.

What we can do is make Dua for her and her family and ask Allah to guide her and the others, back to the straight path

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2019 22:36

According to the press 150 people have been stripped of their citizenship since 2010.

The homesecretary had powers to strip people who had been born abtoad and become naturalised citizens of their nationality.

What the present ruling does is allow the homeoffice to strip ondividuals who are born and raised in the uk. Of their citizenship.

As the MP Diane Abbot along with others has stated this sets a dangerous precedent.

We should be concerned about this.

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2019 22:58

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Feels like I'm talking to a brick wall or your not quite understanding what I'm saying and the ramifications of this. Yes she joined isis (15yo groomed) issue is she not white British so she been stripped. It is official now non whites will NEVER be accepted here. Everyone with ounce on intelligence muslim or not now sees a two tier system. Can't you understand this? If she was white British she would of been taken back so no its nothing to do with bloody isis. Did the whites guys fighting against isis who are also declared terrorist group get stopped. Do idf get stopped. Only non whites will suffer this. Today its for joining isis tomorrow cos u didn't pay TV licence

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2019 23:13

Dr H A Helleyer has written an opinion piece in the Washigton Post stating that to strip Shamima Begum of her citizenship smacks of racism.

David Anderson former Terror watchdog and Barristter has pretty much stated the same thing ... That if he had gone to fight for Isis he would not have been stripped of his ctizenship but Shamima Begum has because she has Bangladeshi Parents.

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2019 23:19

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My Dear Brother the gist of the message you are trying to convey is valid.

But your delivery of the message is letting you down, you need to articulate your points with greater eloquence.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2019 23:40

If you stay put and don't entertain thoughts of going for jihad against your own nation and remain silent about matters that you know will land you in hot water, you won't be at risk getting stripped of citizenship and deported back home.

Make du'a for her, that Allah (SWT) takes and settles in area where she can raise her child comfortably. Ameen.

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 21st February 2019 00:48

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I think Mkdon is right you need to fully read the thread here to understand what is being discussed.

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