abu mohammed wrote:
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Forget going that far back...
Maulana Mamlook Ali (RA) [1789-1851]: Teacher of Maulana Qasim Nanotwi (RA) who founed DU Deoband in 1866 passed away 15 years before his student even founded DU Deoband.
He CANNOT be "Deobandi" because it did not even exist in his lifetime.
Allamah Qasim Nanotwi (RA) and Mufti Rasheed Ahmed Gangohi (RA) were both his illustrious students and both repeatedly spoke and wrote about the qualities of their teacher. Both also were on the path of their teacher.
Both never claimed to be “Deobandi” in their lifetime just like their teacher did not (and could not have).
Shah Abdul Aziz (RA) [1745 - 1823]: The great Muhadith, Faqeeh, Hanafi Scholar of extraordinary repute and calibre who passed away 43 years before DU Deoband thus he also could not have been a "Deobandi".
Hazrat (RA) issued an extra ordinary rebuke to the bigoted, sectarian Habafees of his time (as follows):
The Salah of a Hanafi is perfectly valid behind a Shaf’ae, Maliki or Hanbali. It is because principally there is no division between the four (4) Madhabs and this injunction (of praying behind each other) is clearly elucidated in books of Ahadeeth and Fiqh. However, in our times some Ulama from Transoxiana have spoken (against this following) due to their lack of knowledge and bigotry. Their talk is worthy of refutation and it is not acceptable AT ALL and it is their Ijtehaad. In Makkah Mukarramah (today) this method of following each other is established that these (followers) pray behind each other. If this was not the injunction then what would be the difference between followers of Madhabs of Ahlus-Sunnah and heretical sects? Ahlus-Sunnah and those of knowledge amongst the Fuqaha regard that Haqq (truth) is in all four (4) Madhabs and this principle should be studied in authentic books so contentment of the heart is reached (on the issue) [Fataw-e-Azizi].
Imagine if Hazrat (RA) was alive today and found that people have created an identity for themselves which came 43 years after he had passed away!
These were great Ulama of Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaah.
The questions then become:
- What made Allamah Qasim Nanotwi (RA) a “Muslim” before 1866 but “Deobandi” after 1866, in which way did his Aqaid change after 1866.
- Give some evidence as to where Allamah Qasim Nanotwi (RA) called himself a "Deobandi"? He founded the DU so did he set the guidelines of being "Deobandi"? Did he not set the rules of those studying and graduating from DU Deoband? WHERE and WHEN did he say that laymen can become "Deobandees"?
- If you say that his Aqaid did not change in anyway and remained as it was (of his teacher) then the question remains:
What is a Deobandi?
Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA):
Please produce a statement where he tells laymen to address themselves as “Deobandi”?