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#346 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 16:08
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That sandal thing and the green twisted amamah they wear for example.
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#347 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 16:09
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Not all because they consider certain things as Sunnah when it isn't and they take it to the next extreme.
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#348 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 16:16
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Green amamah is fine I guess. But the sandal called na'alain, they keep it in their homes for barakah and think that it helps ward off evil, so it is definitely shirk.
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#349 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 16:22
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Have you noticed how they wear the amamah? Flat on one side and twisted on the other? I think they are trying to emulate this.



So nalain is fine as long as you don't associate anything with It like barakah or anything?
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#350 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 16:24
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If the slipper was the original then I don't see any issue with that in the sense of Barakah. But replica's, NO!
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#351 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 16:26
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So if they don't consider it sunnah or take it to the extreme then it's Ok?
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#352 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 16:28
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But is it ok to have as long as you don't associate barakah with It?
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#353 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 16:32
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As an exact replica - Then I'd like to have one too, just like how I'd like to have the Sword.

There is a big business in the IndoPak subcontinent where they sell fakes as real and people fall for, including fake hair and teeth.

Due to so many fakes and Biddah, I would stay away from it all unless it was the replica Sword :)
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#354 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 19:11
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Have you noticed how they wear the amamah? Flat on one side and twisted on the other? I think they are trying to emulate this.

No, I've not seen that so I can't comment. But FYI they have now officially changed the colour from green to white. Not sure why.

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So nalain is fine as long as you don't associate anything with It like barakah or anything?

No because I don't think it's the duplicate of Prophet's sandal. (saw)
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#355 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 20:24
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No, I've not seen that so I can't comment. But FYI they have now officially changed the colour from green to white. Not sure why.


When I first went to Pakistan in jamaat about 20 years ago I saw these guys dressed all in white with green amamah and big beards. I was actually quite impressed by the way they looked. I found out that they were some type of barelwi. I noticed that they tied their amamah in a particular way. One side of the amamah was tied smooth and flat and the other side was purposefully twisted. Later when I was in Turkey I saw Rasoolullah (saw) amamah in the museum (the previous pic) and it seemed that one side was flat and the other side was twisted. Not sure if that was intentional. Anyway, so I assumed the barelwi types were trying to emulate that.
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#356 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 20:29
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If Rasulullah (saw) tied it in this way and they are purposefully emulating that, then I think it's good. Everyone should do the same if it is really Sunnah.
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#357 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 23:05

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Two key differences between the actions of B-Boys and Allamah Qasim Nanotwi (RA):

  1. B-Boys ascribe reward and religious significance while Allamah Qasim Nanotwi (RA) never believed, uttered or wrote any religious significance to the matter; it was his personal practise
  2. B-Boys encourage others to follow a “Sunnah” which is not Sunnah i.e. Nabi (Sallalaho Alaihe Wassallam) never made it obligatory to wear GREEN Turban only.

There is a key difference between B-Boys and DeoBAND. The DeoBANDees practise things out of love and honour of Nabi (Sallalaho Alaihe Wassallam) without any other intention.

The key matter in Islam is intention.

You can choose not to wear green shoes and it is your personal choice and prerogative. We leave the matter to Allah Ta’ala.

The minute someone refuses to wear green shoes with the intention of reward and categorisation (to Sunnah), we term it as Bid’ah.

  1. A person can dutiful follow each and every detail of prayer (without intention) and their Salah is not done.
  2. Another person can make intention and then make 10 mistakes but it is classed as Salah.
  3. A person can remain hungry during fasting hours without intention and it is not fasting.
  4. Another person can make intention of fasting and then (accidentally eat/drink by mistake) and he/she will still be fasting.

It is not the action but the intention and categorisation which matters.

Distraction:

This was one of my first lessons in Hanbali Fiqh under my teacher Imam Abu Yusuf Al-Dimashqi (HA) who has now lost his memory due to old age so I request all to make Dua for him. You need to distinguish actions from intentions, actions are nothing without intention.

When Maulana Yusuf Kandhalwi (RA) wrote Hayatus-Sahaba he sent it to my teacher’s teacher in Damascus to write the foreword.  He (RA) refused and sent it back to India and said, “It is an honour beyond my stature to write a foreword on this book”.

Imam Abu Yusuf Al-Dimashqi (HA) told us during the lesson that we were young boys and our teacher held the book (during the 1950s) in his hands and he kept repeating in astonishment (to the best of my recollection).

Woe to the Arabs, Indians have surpassed the scholarship of the Arabs.
Woe to the Arabs, Indians have surpassed the scholarship of the Arabs.
Woe to the Arabs, Indians have surpassed the scholarship of the Arabs.
What is this book, the like of which was not written by an Arab!

B-Boys and DeoBAND

These two are superficially very similar in actions. Hanafees, Ashrees/Maturidees, Sufees but when we delve into it there is a different of night and day because of categorisation and intention. The hallmark of DeoBANDees was to abandon matters which were even remotely close to Bid’ah.

Today, we have PINK DeoBANDees who are basically nothing but cousins of the B-Boys.

Khatam, Meelad, Birthdays, Madrasa Graduations, Dodgy Ta’weez (Ruqya), Hazrat-Worship the PINK DeoBANDees are at it...

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#358 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 23:25
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Jazakallah khair. Alhamdulillah I have understood.

But in general I think it is better to keep ones emotional attachments private especially if you have some sort of influence over other people and their actions. Such things can very easily be picked up by the awaam who due to insufficient knowledge and understanding (much like myself) run away with it and add undue importance to it to such an extent that they make it part of their Deen. Same goes for individual taqwa, dreams and kashf.
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#359 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2019 07:36
I have just completed the last few points that were remaining in the post on my blog (that is not on MS). 21 people visited the post there. Thanks. I also see that we discuss vigorously to the point where it degenerates into debate. That too will be alright as long as we can manage to cool down at the end of the day. To the best of my knowledge that is still not happening. I suppose if we were paying enough to MS then the administration could get some paid help to manage the affairs. I urge brothers and sisters to think about it and contribute. We shall be helping ourselves only.
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#360 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2019 07:41
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When Maulana Yusuf Kandhalwi (RA) wrote Hayatus-Sahaba he sent it to my teacher’s teacher in Damascus to write the foreword. He (RA) refused and sent it back to India and said, “It is an honour beyond my stature to write a foreword on this book”.

Imam Abu Yusuf Al-Dimashqi (HA) told us during the lesson that we were young boys and our teacher held the book (during the 1950s) in his hands and he kept repeating in astonishment (to the best of my recollection).

Woe to the Arabs, Indians have surpassed the scholarship of the Arabs.
Woe to the Arabs, Indians have surpassed the scholarship of the Arabs.
Woe to the Arabs, Indians have surpassed the scholarship of the Arabs.
What is this book, the like of which was not written by an Arab!


Sub-han Allah.
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