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#301 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 11:53

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How are you jumping to conclusions without even listening to what he has said?  Are you planning on migrating to Pakistan or South Africa? :lol

You will fit right in, listen to a snippet, strip it out of context and fire a Fatwa and label the person “Brother of Shaytaan, Neighbour of Dajjal….”




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#302 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 11:54
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(31) Same was true in India. After Partition Satan has divided us so much that we do not go to each other's functions and we have separate Masajid for Deobandi, Barelwi, Ahl-e-Hadith, Shia and Sunni. Not a single Masjid for Muslims.


Here he is advocating a single masjid for all Muslims. In this he has also included Shia. As far as I am aware the general Shia of Pakistan and surrounding areas are twelvers. As far as I am aware twelvers are not muslim. Obviously a single masjid would mean everyone worships together.
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#303 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 11:54
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To be honest I too got a bit disturbed when I read this point. He is not asking us to pray behind them but the point which disturbed me was, he has included Shias in this unity of Ummah.
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#304 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 11:58
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Here he is advocating a single masjid for all Muslims. In this he has also included Shia.

We already have single Masjids for everyone in Makkah, Madinah, Jeruselam and we can have more. There are plenty of other mosques like this where everyone prays together. We just make sure the Imam is a Muslim and accepted by all
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#305 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 11:58
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It is if it is venerated as something holy. It's not if it is not venerated. It's like using a tasbih. It's not a problem when used as a mere counting tool. But then I have seen people pick up and start kissing a tasbih and raising it to their forehead if dropped. But why just the dome then? Why not other things connected to masjid nabawi and madina?
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#306 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 12:00
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I have never come across a non kafir Shia. And I have lived with them in close proximity. Slept with them. Ate with them. Even learned their language.
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#307 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 12:03
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I hope you didn't eat their zabihah :)

I'm sure it must've been rice or something, or even a takeaway - or they ate with your food
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#308 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 12:04
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I was in prison with them. They were not providing the food. Even then I never saw meat for a very long time let alone eat meat.
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#309 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 12:07
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These are not single sunni/Shia masjids. These are Sunni masjids controlled by Sunni. The shias have no choice but to pray in them behind Sunnis. But they are not single sunni/shia masjids.
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#310 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 12:10
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So why Can't Mufti Saheb be advocating the same?

Sunni's are in majority, so lets build them :)
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#311 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 12:10
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He wants us to go to each other's functions and have single masjids. In this he has also included Shia. As far as I'm aware Shia are not prevented from praying in a Sunni masjid as long as they don't cause fitnah of course. So what else could he mean by a single masjid?
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#312 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 12:11

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You are going by supposition after supposition after supposition.

What makes you think that Maulana Qasim Nanotwi (RA) only venerated the “colour of the dome” and nothing else associated with Madina or Nabi (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam)?

Have you heard Mufti Rafi Usmani (HA) say that or come across something which states it?

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Does he? Where does he say that?

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#313 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 12:12
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Not quite with you me old fruity.
We are already building Sunni masjids. So what else could mufti Saheb be advocating about the need for single masjids that also include Shia?
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#314 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 12:13
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#315 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2019 12:16
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I can only go by and a dress what he said. In this case he venerated the colour green based on the colour of the dome. The dome which was built centuries after the Deen was established.

(31) Same was true in India. After Partition Satan has divided us so much that we do not go to each other's functions and we have separate Masajid for Deobandi, Barelwi, Ahl-e-Hadith, Shia and Sunni. Not a single Masjid for Muslims.
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