Who is Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza

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#196 [Permalink] Posted on 18th February 2019 11:48
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#197 [Permalink] Posted on 18th February 2019 17:25
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I wish everyone conducted themselves in this manner except your first sentence with name calling which defeats the need for professionalism.

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#198 [Permalink] Posted on 25th February 2019 08:07
A befitting reply to those who believe that you can learn the deen from books alone without the help of authentic ulema.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlF7YGrQBLA

Insha Allah if time permits then I will translate the whole clip.
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#199 [Permalink] Posted on 25th February 2019 21:24
Assalamu alikum wr wb.

Wrong reasoning and wrong conclusion
There is a villager who is mad on hydro electric power plants because he thinks that they drain all the energy that's in water, and thinks that's why his crops aren't good nowadays as they used to be. He is told to believe the engineers when they say that water is just turning the turbine, and there isn't any energy being drained. But he keeps arguing that doesn't water exert force and do work on turbine? Isn't that drainage of energy from water?

Wrong reasoning and correct conclusion
Ahnaf put there hands below navel in salah because 'nafs' is there and it is necessary that we hold our nafs in salah. So combining sughra kubra it is evident that the more preferred way of holding hands in salah is where the 'nafs' is, that is below navel.


Apparently correct reasoning and wrong conclusion

A, B and C roll dice and get 1,2 and 3 respectively. Now if D throws dice, he will get 4 following the sequence.

Laymen may reach to correct conclusion with wrong reasoning and vice versa. They can't be allowed to make their own conclusions and start propagating them.

Engineer mirza keeps on doing his so called research and keeps making conclusions, which seem very logical to laymen, as no doubt he is eloquent in his speech, and knows how to manipulate people. But in truth he is similar to a villager arguing about the direction of current and water being drained of energy, and telling people how illogical and stupid the professionals are. Laymen will believe anything, because they don't study. They just follow. No matter how much they shout "we are against taqleed", but in the end they will follow. And it isn't very surprising that engineer has got so many followers, because when a scoundrel like Ghulam Qadiani maloon can have such a big following, then anybody can have.



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#200 [Permalink] Posted on 26th February 2019 06:27
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This is why I say that the majority is sheep and without the political power of the righteous, the masses can't be trained and purified. The majority will always follow any fool with a silver tongue.
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#201 [Permalink] Posted on 26th February 2019 08:02
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[Rough Translation of the Clip]

"When Allah wishes good for someone, He bestows upon him the understanding of Deen. And knowledge is only gained by learning it" (Sahih Bukhari Volume-1, Pg-24, [Arabic Version])

Now keep the last statement in mind "And knowledge is only gained by learning it".

Fathul Bari written by Allama Ibn Hajjar Asqalani Rh is a famous Sharh (Commentary) of Sahih Bukhari.

While commenting on this hadith he says that the statement "And knowledge is only gained by learning it" is also part of the hadith and it is not to be considered as a statement of Imam Bukhari RH. He further states that only that ilm is reliable (authentic, honourable, respected) which is learned from the Anbiya AS and their inheritors. (Ilm learned from any where else (or any other method) is not reliable).

In Al-Kifayah fee ilm ur Riwayah by Khateeb Baghdaadi (An Important book of Usool ul Hadith)

Imam Malik Rh says that "I have seen many people in this city (Madina) who narrate ahadith. However, their narrations are not accepted because they are not Aimmah (Imam/leaders of knowledge)".

Imam Ibn Wahab RH asked from Imam Malik Rh "Why narrations from them are rejected while from others who are younger than them, are accepted?"

Imam Malik Rh replied "This thing is wajib (compulsory) that their knowledge comes from ulema and not from books."

Therefore, only that ilm is reliable which is learned from (authentic) ulema and not from the books. Books are used for references, but we need ulema to explain the actual meanings, context and implementation of whatever is written in the books.

In Hilyatul Aulia (Volume-6, Page-316)

Abu Mus'ab says that I heard from Imam Malik ibn Anas Rh "I didn't issue any fatwa until 70 people(ulema) testified(gave me ijazah) that I can issue fatwa."

Hence, when followers of this Mirza say that we take knowledge of deen as was understood from the first three generations and as they interpreted from Quran and Sunnah then Allama Ibn Hajjar Asqalani Rh clearly explains in the light of sahih hadith (in Sahih Bukhari) and Imam Malik Rh in another place that what is the correct methodology of learning this deen and from whom we should learn this deen. And what is the wrong method of learning deen and from whom we must not learn this deen.

Therefore this engineer and his likes are fake, juhalah, untrustable, ill-mannered, idiotic, liars, stupid, ignoramus and must not be listened to and must not be paid any attention to.

Al-hamdulillah! There are many videos in the channel Aawaz e haq4 from which some of it's videos I shared here which refute the Mirza in the manner I wanted our ulema to do so.
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#202 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2019 00:05
My brothers and sisters, I am new to the forum and have no idea on how to start a new discussion but as it has to do with this topic, I am asking here. How to deal with these new fitna of self declared aalims like Muhammad Sheikh who not only denies ahadees but also give never before heard tafseer of Quran.
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#203 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2019 03:00
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Stick to the traditional ulema and stop listening to these pseudo youtube self proclaimed scholars. Simple as that. Let the experts deal with them.
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#204 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2019 02:00
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