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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 30th October 2016 20:09
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Judge Charles Haddon-Cave stated ten Islamic views which he described as “examples of classic extremist” positions in Imam Shakeel Begg’s unsuccessful libel case against the BBC.

The following ten examples were stated by Mr Justice Haddon-Cave in the Courts and Tribunal Judiciary judgement between Imam Begg and the BBC.

“Ten extremist Islamic positions according to a British Court: The Court highlighted ten examples of classic extremist Islamic positions [118-128], viz:

(1) An extremist Manichean ‘Us’ versus ‘Them’ worldview which divides the world into ‘good’ Muslims versus ‘bad’ Muslims or kafir (unbelievers));

(2) Giving jihad an exclusively violent meaning (qital) ;

(3) Ignoring the Qur’anic conditions for declaring qital;

(4) Ignoring the Qur’anic conditions for conducting qital;

(5) Encouraging Muslims to believe it was their individual religious duty to go off and fight ‘in the name of Allah’;

(6) Any interpretation of Shar’ia (religious law) which requires Muslims to break the ‘law of the land’;

(7) The classification of all non-Muslims as unbelievers (kuffar);

(8) The Salafist Islamism doctrine that the precepts of the Muslim faith negate and supercede all natural ties, of family, kinship and nationhood;

(9) The citing with approval the fatwa (legal opinions) of Islamic scholars who espouse extremist views (e.g. the Salafi-Wahabi scholar, Sheikh Abdul Aziz bin Baz), or praising notorious violent, extremist, Islamic ideologues (e.g. Sayyid Qutb and Abdullah Azzam);

(10) Any teaching which, expressly or implied, encourages Muslims to engage in violence or terrorism ‘in the name of Allah.”


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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 30th October 2016 20:11
this judgement will give free reign to media to label any layman/scholar as extremist
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 30th October 2016 20:13
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Lewisham Islamic Centre PRESS RELEASE

Imam Shakeel Begg Vs the BBC

STATEMENT OF THE TRUSTEES (October 29th, 2016)

Following Mr Justice Haddon-Cave's judgement against Imam Shakeel Begg in his libel suit
against the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC), we the Trustees of The Lewisham Islamic
Centre (LIC) confirm our unequivocal and unwavering continued support of our Head Imam. We
reassert that Imam Begg is not an extremist, has never espoused extremist views, nor is he by any
stretch of the imagination an extremist speaker. Imam Begg will shortly release a personal statement
countering what in our opinion was an unfair and pervasively one sided judgement.

Imam Begg has been the Imam at the LIC for more than 15 years and remains one of the most
cherished and beloved members of the London borough of Lewisham Muslim community, just as
much as he is respected and held in high regard within other religious and non-religious institutions
in the borough and beyond. His efforts within the borough promoting unity, tolerance, cooperation
and peaceful co-existence between different faith groups and with the wider community are well
documented and easily accessible.

We are truly disappointed and disturbed by this judgement, by its skew replete with incorrect and
fanciful assumptions that rely unequivocally on the speculative, specious and rigid testimony of one
“expert” witness – even when this testimony clearly contradicts the Quran and authentic Hadiths of
Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) – as representing the myriad of normative Islamic opinions.

The charge of extremism is a false charge. Extremism is an ignoble concept to Islam and Imam
Begg remains committed to espousing the true teachings of Islam and the public condemnation and
unreserved disavowal of terrorism. Several online videos and joint open letters attest to this. He is
also an outspoken campaigner against transgressing nation states in defence and support of the
oppressed such as victims of "rendition", persons detained without charge, and aggrieved peoples
such as in Occupied Palestine. Not one of these stances is illegal or not shared by a great many
people of faith and no faith.

Mr Justice Haddon-Cave’s Jekyll and Hyde characterisation, in other words, a mastery of
hypocrisy, is therefore fanciful and an impossible position for a personality like Imam Begg, whose
entire professional life as faith and community leader is open to public scrutiny. Absolutely none of
his speeches, sermons, lectures are ever conducted in secret or to a select few, nor are the
audience at public events ever vetted for "suitability". We remind the reader that it was Imam Begg,
having nothing to hide, who brought this case against The BBC, not the other way round.

Imam Begg is a pillar of the community, and to decontextualize the words used in some of his
speeches and rule them "coded" language to espouse extremist Islamic positions is to stretch the
language of extremism and terrorism beyond breaking point. For the avoidance of doubt, the LIC
unequivocally condemns all forms of unlawful violence and terrorism. Imam Begg and the LIC
distance themselves from the views attributed to him in this judgement because these are not shared
or endorsed by either.

We shall continue to review this judgement.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 30th October 2016 21:46
If it was a similar judgement against the Yahood. They would carry out an investigation into the Judge and his lifestyle and the so called academic expert Dr Wilkinson. They would then use anything they found to discredit these individuals and their judgements. We have no such Institution so we will continue to get pounded.
So this Zionist judge is claiming that to call a disbeliever a Disbeliever is "extremist".
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 31st October 2016 16:38
These aren't all Islamic positions! They are; opinions of some Mulims, others are fact and some are contradictions!

Maybe they should get their facts right first
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 31st October 2016 17:22
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(7) The classification of all non-Muslims as unbelievers (kuffar);


Number 7 is George Bush-esque... hilariously moronic yet somehow very dangerous
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 31st October 2016 19:58
well i cant say im surprised or angry. it was heading this way for ages but like idiots us muslims were too busy bickering among ourselves or happy to see other sects being attacked for universal beliefs.
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