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#46 [Permalink] Posted on 20th April 2016 11:32
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#47 [Permalink] Posted on 20th April 2016 11:50

seems like newspapers are getting in on the act now. this article was on the Times newspaper but you cant read the online version as you have to subscribe but you can read it on daily fail and the scum newspapers. it mentions how most of the imams in uk and prisons are deo who are preaching hate. before we get all defensive we should actually realise whats going on here. they are equating the entire deen to extremism. if you believe homosexuality is bad your an extremists, if you believe in polygamy your an extremists . this is not something we can say its not us its the wahhabis who say believe this. MCB or someone really does need to tackle this issue before its too late. are we expected to change our entire deen to please these people?
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#48 [Permalink] Posted on 20th April 2016 13:43
PM David Cameron has accused shaykh suliman gani of being an extremist and that he support IS. He did so during PMQT in the commons and therefore cannot be sued.
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#49 [Permalink] Posted on 20th April 2016 14:36
hope shaykh has contact with good solicitors this is going too far. if we dont stop it now who knows who be next and they will keep doing more and more
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#50 [Permalink] Posted on 20th April 2016 14:41
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are we expected to change our entire deen to please these people?


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#51 [Permalink] Posted on 20th April 2016 18:15
they are really going in hard on shaykh gani, at least chuka ummna has had decency to call it islamaphobic and racist live on tv and radio. i wonder if there is anything we can do to help. i feared this day would come. before it was shaykh abu qatadah being labelled bin ladins right hand man in europe and now its this. both are basless lies and slanders.
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#52 [Permalink] Posted on 21st April 2016 09:29
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Update on this:

Mr Cameron told the House: "This man supports IS."

This elevated what had been a slightly fuzzy attempt by the Conservative hierarchy to persuade Londoners that Mr Khan is soft on extremism to something far more serious - a sharer of platforms with terrorist-sympathisers.

Or that's what it sounded like.

Dan Watkins' tweet of pictures about Tooting
In November, Mr Watkins tweeted pictures of a meeting attended by Mr Gani

Curiously, while the CCHQ attack dossier made no mention of his support for the IS group, he had, said a newspaper report, expressed support for an Islamic State - but not the organisation known as Daesh, ISIL and ISIS.

I asked for clarification. None came. And when I raised the issue with Number 10 they said that by IS, the PM meant "an Islamic state", not the so-called Islamic State.

news.sky.com/story/1682433/the-tale-of-the-pm-and-the-tor...
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#53 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd April 2016 03:56
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Thank you very much for sharing this.

These are very testing times for the ummah.

May Allah swt aid Islam and the Muslimeen against false propaganda.
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#54 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd April 2016 05:44
When the Brits dig deep into our hearts somewhere they are bound to encounter stuff that they do not like.
It is faith, Islam, in our hearts that they have problem with.
I can tell you that right from the days of the revelation of Noble Qur'an they have problem with Islam.
That problem has survided beyond west's denunciation of Christianity and her lapse into materialism.
They got rid of Christianity from their life but not their bias against Islam.
That continues till today.

So sooner or later they will encounter something about us that is true but they just do not like it.
They would like us to be like them.
That we can not comply with.

So it amounts to where we draw the line.

My suggestion is that we should be the party to draw the line.
Because if we do not then they would.
They would draw the line.
And we will be left to defend ousrselves and our Deen on backfoot.
For their line will be deep into our territory.

We have this problem of taking a stand.
We got to take a stand.
Lax people usually do not like to do that for taking a stand entails assertion and action.
Hence it is unpleasant for lax people to take stand.

What I see now is that the usual dictum of Use Hikmah has run its course. You can no longer beat around the bush.
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#55 [Permalink] Posted on 5th May 2016 00:59
I am surprised that nobody has noticed modernist Mu'adh promulgating puerile parp



Question:

You may have heard of brother Mu'adh Khan from UK (aka Colonel). He has
connection with Deobandee Ulama and is mostly well regarded.

His latest idea or fad (call it what you will) is to do a TV Documentary on Deobandees in light of the media attack on Deobandees in the UK.

He says he needs to do something for the Ummah right now and has requested
sisters to come forward who wish to speak on camera.

Is this not a case of using batil means to spread the Haq?

Answer:

Haamidan wa Musalliyan
Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuh

This is completely against the teaching of Deoband. Appearing on the television screen and interviewing women is not at all in keeping with the high and lofty teachings of the elders of Deoband. The teachings of the elders of Deoband are in conformity to the Sunnah of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam).

And Allah Ta'ala (الله تعالى) knows best.

Answered by:

Mufti Ebrahim Salejee


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Who does he want to convince?

Assure him that the enemies of Islaam know full well who or what the Deobandis stand for.

Especially the British – for they know what role the Ulema-e-Deoband played in removing then from India.

This media form should not be used.

Why does he want women? This will create more confusion.

He should avoid.

Mufti A.H.Elias

Assalamu alaykum

Not pemissible to make flims of animate objects.

We have to do the work of dawat and tabligh and make them muslim.

If people want to continue criticizing then we cannot stop them.

This is happening from the time of Nabi Sallallahu alayhi wasallam.

Mufti A.K.Hoosen
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#56 [Permalink] Posted on 5th May 2016 07:43
Muadh Khan just avoid women speakers and go ahead with your documentary.
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#57 [Permalink] Posted on 5th May 2016 08:41
He's not doing it for TV. It'll be on YouTube.

Went all the way to South africa to get a clarification on a matter concerning British Muslims when we have plenty of Muftis in britain. Smh
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#58 [Permalink] Posted on 5th May 2016 08:43
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Yes,it all started from the word go. Crusades multiplied their hatred for us many folds...at a crucial phase in their history,when the west was about to enter the industrial revolution,a kind of re-birth for them.

When the current western civilisation was starting to take its baby steps,crusades were fresh in their mind. They were 'born again' with intense hatred for Islam,the prophet of Islam صَل الله عليه و سلم and Muslims.

The hatred for Muslims has now entered deep into their collective psyche (as if part of their culture). It will not go away !

In international relations weakness is a crime; It is an invitation to be snubbed,disgraced,annihilated and subjugated (if possible). We have proved time and again that we are weak. Only the strong can take a stand !

We are economically and militarily depended,politically in chaos,academically far behind,technically ignorant and morally corrupt. Some of us may want to take a stand but our legs are shaking. How can we fight an enemy with the weapons we buy from them ?

Worse still,we have not started corrective measure yet. It must be a long journey to match them once we take the first step,which we have not yet taken. Our rulers store their corruption money in western banks and strengthen their economy instead of using that for social welfare in own countries....

What to say brother Maripat. I agree with your Nobel thought but is it practical for us ?
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#59 [Permalink] Posted on 5th May 2016 09:37
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SubhanAllah, sounds like a classic case of To Fatwa or Not to Fatwa

A documentary doesn't mean it has to be on TV, it doesn't have to have people with their faces, it doesn't have to contain any type of Haram. The only thing that may be questioned is the voice(s) of the sisters, but these can be overcome by typography! And as you will see, brother Muadh is already well versed in this topic.

Lets try not to make each other look down, it's not a game, rather give ideas of positiveness or show the negative/conflicting side of things.

Personally, had I asked that question to the Ulama and got these responses, I would feel it compulsory upon me to reply to the Ulama and clarify my errors or questions and be Just.

These Ulama most probably know Muadh and you've just tarnished his name, so a little justice is deserved.
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#60 [Permalink] Posted on 5th May 2016 10:00
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salaam

correct me if i am wrong, but i am guessing you have already been on this forum before on a different name? possibly multiple different names?

anyway, if you have a problem with muadh, or anyone other muslim for that matter, why resort to insults and bad manners when you can achieve the same with good character or failing that at least do it in a neutral manner. this way the issue that you may have will be dealt with properly instead of being reduced to a slanging match.


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