Below is a brief commentory and actual translation of Shaykh Ahmed Sirhindi mujadid alfe sani , who basically explains how having kashf does not make one any better than the other , thought was relevant to this thread
"The Mujaddid here explains why mystic visions and unveilings that some Sufis experience are ultimately valueless. Many sufi aspirants experience many other-worldly visions and states, sees lights and colors and realizes other-worldly knowledge. Many others do not. But when they reach the destination, which is God-realization, none of these two groups have any superiority over each other.
With respect to their states (halat), the aspirants can be divided into two groups:
1. Either he will have unveilings (kashf) and knowledge (ma`rifat)
2. Or he will be the ignorant and bewildered (arbab-i jahl va hayrat).
But after traversing (ti) the waystations (manazil) and upveiling the veils (hizb), both of these groups “arrive on†[the same destination]. No group can claim an advantage (maziyat) over the other group in that “arrival.â€
Now the Mujaddid employs an analogy to explain why these two groups have the same rank.
It is like when two individuals who reach the Kaaba from a distant place. One of them comes seeing all the interesting things (tamasha) [beside the road] from that place of departure. And he understands (danistan) those things as much as he can understand. And the other individual comes with both of his eyes closed understanding (ittila`) nothing on the road from the place of departure.
On the matter of arriving at the Kaaba, both individuals are equal and neither one has any superiority (ziyadati) in this arrival over the other, although there is a great difference between them in learning about the places onthe road (manazil-i rah).
Regardless of to whichever group the sufi belongs, he becomes ignorant and bewildered (jhl, hayrat) when he realizes God. Then he realizes that he knows nothing about God and he could never know God.
However, once they have reached (rasidan) the destination, both of them definitely (dharuri) become ignorant (jahl). It is because when one truly knows (ma`rifat) the person (dhat) of Allah, he realizes that he knows nothing about Him and that he can never know Him (ma`rifat)."
I don't know about that, but some of us seem to be obsessed about it over here. We are obsessed with those discussions which involve an underground* aspect to it.
*Those discussions which only a select few can know about; stuff that cannot be found in conventional texts but have to be mastered by the chosen ones.
If such 'questions' did not exist,we would not be discussing them today. Where there is a 'question' there is an urge to find an answer,sometimes we succeed,mostly we fail.....
Islam in itself is a very simple Din. I wish we had remained content with what Allah and his Rasool pbuh has told us. But history tells us that we have a tendency to jump into philosophical discussions and try to unlock the occult mysteries.
In our good times we translated the 'Greek philosophy' into Arabic which created 'questions' prompting Uluma to find an 'answer' to them,as a result we found ourself involved in the complex discussions of ZAT and SIFAT, how the creation was created by the creator,Wahdat ul wujood and then as a reaction to that Wahdat us shuhood etc.
We conveniently forgot that Knowing or experiencing those things was NOT a criteria on which we will be judged in Akhera. The criteria was IMAN and AMAL E SALEH.
The truth is simple and straightforward, may be our own minds are twisted.
This cannot be undone and I am sure it will be greatly appreciated.
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