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#76 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2020 11:58
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I sincerely don't want to begin discussing another conspiracy theory.
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More than 50% Of Americans say the government is concealing the truth.
More than 50% of Americans believe it was an inside job.
More than 50% believe it was a false flag operation.


I would like to see where these statistics come from, since my belief is that those opinions would represent a minority view of Americans.
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#77 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2020 12:37
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Dont take it to heart brother :)

This is not about our Aqeedah or Fiqh etc. :)

We can agree to disagree on this we will still learn from each other in the deeni threads.

But I won't let you get away with disagreeing with one thing ;) here we cannot agree to disagree.

Q: Did Larry Silverstien order WTC7 to be pulled?
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#78 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2020 13:10
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That's fine brother, no need to participate, but as I asked the brother, Did Larry Silverstien order WTC7 to be pulled down or not?

On the polls, I just wanted to paint a picture of the facts that can and cannot be proved.

Polls are carried out by various organisations from across the board.

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For example, Brexit was "voted" for by more than 50% of the nation, fact! I have yet to meet one who did vote that way, but of course it doesn't mean it didn't happen! Just under 50% are in disbelief that Brexit is happening.
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#79 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2020 13:20
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Ok, I thought it might just be an example, but I was curious if the statistics were true. That would have been a real eye opener to me.
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#80 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2020 13:58
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Well according to certain university polls, they are true. According to someone called the Zogby International, someone who conducts surveys in the states also incline this.

But you didn't answer my question.

Did Larry Silverstien order WTC7 to be pulled?
Since you didn't answer, I'm gonna give you another question and another chance :)
Did NBC and CNN clearly say that WTC7 will blow up soon (since they were informed of the controlled demolition)

All you need is 3 minutes and the answers can be given if you are willing to be truthful in this matter of wtc7 ;)
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#81 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2020 13:59
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I would need much more than 3 minutes to fully research that question.
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#82 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2020 14:05
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I would doubt that very much unless you are using an analogue dial up Internet connection.

It's all here www.muftisays.com/forums/24-help--support/13020-how-to-re...

Just one video, well there's a 28 second version of the 58 second video too.

I'll be honest, Muadh was very staunch on his findings because he got hooked onto the wrong bait.

I threw mine differently and it might have opened avenues for him. Better late than never.
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#83 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2020 14:08
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Honestly, i don't know. That one clip is not enough for me to make that statement. I would have to ask Mr Silverstein himself.
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#84 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2020 14:09
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What I'm trying to say is that perhaps he is quoted as saying that.
But that in and of itself does not make the (*meaning of the*) quote true.
Was there more said?
Is his opinion accurate?
What exactly was meant by "pull it"?
Was it referencing the fact that it should be destroyed due to excessive structural damage?

There are many more avenues that would need to be investigated for me to have a knowledgeable opinion on the cause of WT7 coming down.
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#85 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2020 14:10
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With all due respect, who gets to decide if someone got hooked onto the right bait or the wrong bait?
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#86 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2020 14:16
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The one who threw it ;)
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#87 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2020 14:35
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So you baited muadh?
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#88 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2020 14:36
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Every one who read the thread.
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#89 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2020 14:36
The more this discussion continues, the more I think it should be moved out of the help section.

*edit* Perhaps it would be good to leave the original portion of the thread in the Help section, then once the "click bait" is revealed, simply post a link to the discussion following it.
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#90 [Permalink] Posted on 26th January 2020 14:38
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I admit, I fully swallowed the bait and wriggled on the line like a fish. LOL

And, as I told Yasin, I thought he'd lost his marbles when he talked about throwing the Pepsi can.
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