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#121 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 11:26
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You forgot the other option.

Option C: Neither participate in Bidah nor pack your bags. Stay there and give dawah.
Is the mosque the only place to stay?
If the locals make problems and turn violent... retreat... For you have done your job of delivering the message.
Try again next year inshaAllah.

Our job is only to deliver the message hidayat comes from Allah Ta'ala.
There is a youtube video of a story of a Latino convert. He first heard about Islam in a bar when his muslim friend while drinking alcohol talked about it. Does this mean Daees should go into bars and start drinking to give dawah. Then you might say 'I don't do anything that is outright haram.' Isn't bidah haraam?

There will be a group during yawm al qiyamah who will come to sides of hawl al kawthar, and the Angels will say to Rasoolullah (saw), that these people were bidatis and Rasoolullah (saw) will say “Away with those who changed after I was gone!”. This hadith is mentioned in both bukhari and Muslim.

Doing a haraam act for 'dawah' is in itself haraam. Good people doing bidah will make more people comfortable with that particular act of bidah.

If anyone has the guts to risk being turned away from hawl al kawthar in name of 'dawah', then I have nothing more to say.




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#122 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 11:31
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If the locals make problems and turn violent... retreat... For you have done your job of delivering the message.
Try again next year inshaAllah.


Hmm Next Year. Then again Next year, the situation shall be same; So next year... The cycle continues.
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#123 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 11:36
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#124 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 11:37
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It was 950 years for Nuh (as) so next year and the year after and the year after and the year after.....It's the correct way akhee
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#125 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 11:38
May I ask our friends here who were in the similar situation and really retreat and left the town.

Remember option was given to stay in the masjid.

I would like to get the counts.
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#126 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 11:39
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smiles!!
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#127 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 11:53
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Why do you presume that they won't be guided?
Are you suggesting their guidance rely on the efficiency of your dawah techniques?
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#128 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 11:59
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If they are getting guided, then why should we visit the town again.
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#129 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 12:01
I'd love to post my roundabout image from another section here, coz that what's going on here
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#130 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 12:07
TJ's only visit unguided people?
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#131 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 12:13
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brother this is not ijtihaad. The salafis have at least some room for it and can back it up with the classical ulema...This brother has 1 daleel. The sahib e karamat buzrug
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#132 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 12:13
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If you charge your phone over night, why do you charge it again the next night?
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#133 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 12:15
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السلام عليكم

I agree with you bro.

Some people are deluded into thinking they are the only hope for the misguided people of this ummah. Wallahi they are misguided themselves.

We need to take the middle path, Do not neglect the act of enjoining good and forbidding evil but at the same time follow the methods within the constrains of Shariah. What good is censuring evil through evil?!

May Allah Ta'ala save us from such delusion. ameen.
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#134 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 12:17
Question!

Did this dear person come with you to place this "chaadar" over the grave of this "wali"?

Yes or No please
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#135 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 12:17
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There is no end to this cycle. We could justifiy anything under the sun.
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