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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2014 04:52

I hope I'm allowed to ask as it's not fiqh.

I've heard there's lots of bidah shirk kufr associated with sufis thats why I was hesitant to learn about it, but learnt there's both good and bad, take the good and leave the bad. Just happen to listen to the series on tasawuf by respected Mufti Abdur Rahman Ibn Yusuf, before listening to it I was afraid I might came across something which cause doubts but everything was comprehensible. Alhamdulillah.

I also read few articles here and there but I dunno much, I want to know more pls gimme link to authentic books, audio, video, or point me to any discussion around which help understand tassawuf.

Also, I've questions, Tijani Tariqah is considered deviant by Respected Ahmed sadiq Desai, here on pg. no. 7 Do all sunnis consider them deviants or is this just Mufti A.S. Desai?

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If the Shaikh is a genuine Shaikh who was genuinely in some spiritual state (haal), then on emergence from that state of ecstasy if he is informed that his utterance, etc. was in conflict with the Shariah, never will he justify it nor proffer an interpretation despite being aware that he had made the statement in a 'different world'.

what's exactly the spiritual state or haal or different world?

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2014 07:45

Try them, sis

1) Sharh Al Hikam of Ibn Ata'allah , by Ustd. Aisha Bewley
data.nur.nu/Kutub/English/Ibn-3Ajiba_Sharh-al-Hikam-al-3A...

2) O Beloved Son - by Imam Ghazali
www.ghazali.org/books/My%20Dear%20Beloved%20Son.doc

3) Islamic Commentary of Rumi's Mathnawi
www.khanqah.org/books/download/en-ma-arif-e-mathnawi/book...

4) Futuhal Ghaib by Abdul Qadir Al-Gilani
archive.org/details/FutuhAl-ghaibtheRevelationsOfTheUnsee...

5) www.islamicspirituality.com
For audio from various scholars in Tasawwuf

Also someone suggested me a book Tasawwuf and Shariah by Shaykh Ahmad Sirhindi.

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2014 09:34

This is a very sensitive topic and I'm the first to admit "I haven't got a clue". Therefore I strongly advise that you DONT go to sites that have not been confirmed or recommended by the "Brothers" on this site as they have better knowledge and are more trustworthy inshaAllah.

Mufti Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf is MashaAllah trustworthy and is always there to help.

I would once again strongly recommend that you only take advice from the senior members here.

This topic is sensitive and pray it doesn't derail.

Brother Muadh has done some great work on this in explaining much more on the topic.

Personally, I stay away to be safe and ONLY take from reliable sources.

Please be careful.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2014 10:10

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The talks of Shaykh (Maulana) Hussain Abdul Sattar (HA) will answer most of your question as it is one of the most detailed discussion on the subject:

central-mosque.com/index.php/Soul/fundamentals-of-tassawu...

Tassawuff is from Islam and Sunnah and in our times we have many people who are doing bad things like some Qur'aan teachers so we can't abandon Qur'aan can we? So Tassawuff is inherently part of Islam and due to a few bad apples we can't abandon Tassawuff.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2014 10:21

There are a few threads on this topic on ms إن شاء الله
The first link has already been posted in the above post by brother Muadh, hope it helps جزاك الله خيرا

www.muftisays.com/forums/76-the-true-salaf-as-saliheen/51...

www.muftisays.com/forums/12-virtues/6764-spirituality-in-...

www.muftisays.com/forums/27-sharing-portal/7774-specialis...

www.muftisays.com/forums/40-speech--english/7590-tassawuf...

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2014 15:25

Jazakumullahu khair.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2014 21:26

Hafiz Sulaiman recommended this book to me, by Shaykh Zakariyya Khandelvi. Im still in the middle of reading it, but I would suggest you also take a look at it.

attahawi.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/shariah-and-tariqah-...

The first part of the book deals with fiqh, taqleed and ijtihaad, so if you want you can skip that part and go straight to chapter 8 insha'Allah.

May Allah increase you in your knowledge. Ameen.

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2014 01:07

salaam

how was tasawwuf practiced in the era of the prophet (saw)

and sahabah (rd)?

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2014 01:34

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salaam.

Insha'Allah, Read chapter 10-12 of the book I posted in my previous post.

wassalaam.

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2014 01:51

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Quote from Imam Muhasibi's Risaltul Mustarshidin on how the early practitioners practiced Tasawwuf:

Their condition was that they used to acquire knowledge, reform their conditions through companionship and mutual brotherhood. Through this meeting with each other and visiting each other, they would acquire so much, that they would experience of this within themselves and in their external lives as well. They therefore traveled the lands with the intention of meeting the auliya, the 'ulama and those who were engrossed in the worship of Allah Ta'ala.

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www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?112072-Split-thre...

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2014 02:19

On thing I forgot to ask, in his video respected Mufti Abdur Rahman talks about poem which was something like this If I remember, 'My heart is wine intoxicated with the love of god, cup bear is the spiritual guide, wine house is the religion of Islam'

I don't consider it kufr bid'ah shirk etc. but just one question that comes to mind, wine is apparently a bad thing so would it be fine to compare our religion with it? what's the reason sufi poets use such words?

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2014 02:47

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Among the Sufiyyah, its used to refer to a state when a person loses his senses which may lead to unintentionally saying something contrary to Qur'an and Sunnah...as mentioned in the beginning of chapter 17 in the book arslan quoted above.

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2014 03:24

May Allah give the elders of Markaz Nizamuddin to revive the Tasawwuf which was practised in the Markaz until the demise of Hazratji Moulana In'amul Hasanرحمة الله عليه.Elder Tablighi Hazrat Qutubuddin Mullaرحمة الله عليه tried to revive the Tasawwuf in Tablighi Jamat by his book 'Tazkiyah wo Ihsan aur Akabir e Tabligh',but the book was not welcome in Tablighi circles.May Allah revive Tasawwuf in Tablighi Jamat once again,which was in it's principles.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2014 03:30

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Haven't read that chapter yet, just skimmed through it now. Is this person a majzoob, basically? Either Majzoob and the state described in this chapter are similar, or the exact same, because both are ghair-mukallaf.

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2014 03:35

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so that's the reason. Got it. Jazakallahu khair.

I've been told that an authentic hadith mentions a man being so overtaken by joy that he says to Allah (out of awe and confusion) "You are my slave and I am your Lord."

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