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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 11th October 2013 23:36
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 11th October 2013 23:58
Brother your link has been removed, as the video was unavailable anyway....if you choose to repost, please do so as an audio file only, and please also take note of following forum rules whilst posting...

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2013 00:09
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2013 00:34
I believe the link was working though.

Didn't know about the forum rule. Apologies.
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2013 01:03
Halalified YT Audio


I believe this is the one in a halalified version.
If not please let me know.

Jazakallah.
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2013 04:34

MAN! S-U-B-H-A-N-U-L-L-L-A-A-H

R-E-S-P-E-C-T!!!
 

  1. Abul Hasan Ali Hasani Nadwi (RA) states that the worst role in Islamic history is played by the Arabs against the destruction of Ottoman Empire and betrayl of the Turks
  2. Our Ulamah e.g. Shaykh Sulaiman Nadwi ( RA), Mufti KIfayatullah (RA) and others said it in front of these CRIMINALS in the first Makkah conference that you BROKE the Ottoman Empire! The sons and daughters of these CRIMINALS have become rulers today???
  3. Have you read the history Shaykh Abdullah Phillby? He has clearly written how the British funded the Saudees and provided military aid and assistance. Above all he is written how British supoorted both the Shareef fraction and Al-Saud fraction and how much they were paid, weapons supplied...so both fractions were supported but eventually Al-Saud were favoured and the intial AGREEMENT and others that Al-Saud will remain loyal is still available
  4. Like we (Indians) talk about the bad behavior of British, the Arabs still teach bad behavior (and spread poison) against the Turks (to this day)
  5. These snakes like Meeraj Rabbani (the rabid culprit) blame Sayyids and say that Deoband and Nadwa is funded by Saudi regime! Bring one proof that EVEN ONE BRICK of Deoband or Nadwa is laid by the money of Saudees
  6. These snakes like Meeraj Rabbani (the rabid culprit) and ignormaous Salafees say that they follow Salaf! Salaf whom? When were the Salaf? How did Ibn Taymiyyah (RA) become Salaf! Your behavior is like Pharoah (Fir'aun) not like Salaf! You are a disgrace on the Salaf!
  7. You Salafees have a INDIGESTION PROBLEM! like someone eats and can't digest...You can't digest (Islamic text) and you say that Imam Shaf'ae (RA), Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) were not Master of Hadeeth???
  8. Being Salafi is a good thing but who is Salafi? Are you Salafi? Protestants are a branch of Christianity who claimed to access bible directly and Salafees access Qur''aan and Sunnah directly! A rabid hate-filled (Snake) Meeraj Rabban, the boot licker of Saudees, the back-biter, the Saudi rulers should stay away from them
  9. Slavery of USA has become the Madhab of Saudees. Yesterday they backed Afghan Jihad today they condemn Jihad in the same place? Prisons are filled with those who oppose torture driven regimes and the purpose of Saudees is to protect US backed interests
  10. Their princes roam around the world and gamble and commit Zina? Go to Dubai and see the place filled with Russian girls and on weekends cars and planes of Saudees come there on the weekend in their hunderds to commit Zina...Look at their oppression at the Hajees? Look at their Zina? Is there any limits to these (Saudi) regime? They treat poor Hajees like cattle?
  11. Saudees spend more on football then they spend on Hajees! And they claim to be servant to those who perform Hajj?
  12. Even today Saudees have a chance to reform, reform yourself and STOP having DOGS like Meeraj Rabbaniwho are spreading rabid hatred (against Taqleed and Ulamah) in the world
  13. The Islamic world needs to evaluate as to which pan (of the scale) they should put their weight into? An American newspaper wrote "Our most sincere and binding friend in the Muslim world is King Fahad! The example of Al-Saud is like of a DOG which is kept to gather the lamb to be slaughtered and for the last 40-50 these Al-Saud have played their role to perfection, they provide aid to poor Muslim countries and then sacrifice them at the alter of USA
  14. The role of the Saudees is to ENSLAVE the Islamic world to US Interest and as long as they (this Al-Saud family) are alive they will continue to enslave Muslims and sell Islamic interests to the US
  15. The Islamic world needs to wakeup and realise their role.
  16. Our Ulamah e.g. Shaykh Sulaiman Nadwi ( RA), Mufti KIfayatullah (RA) said to King Abdul-Aziz Al-Saud that you destroyed Ottoman Empire so let us do Bayah on your hands to become Khaleefa and you know what his response was? He said only speak to me about Hijaz and these areas! You know why? Because that was the agreement with the British and the Americans and that was the extent of his puppetry!
  17. What have these few Salafees done? They have divided the Ummah in the name of Madhab! On the backing of Petro-Dollars of Saudi regime...That is all these Salafees have achieved...Divided the Ummah in the name of Madhabs and destroyed unity...
  18. The most ignorant and racist land is Saudia. I lived there in 1971-1972 and if a Saudi hits your car then the Qadhi (Judge) will put you in jail and absolve the Saudi
    1. These IGNORAMUS rulers cannot even read the Qur'aan after looking at it
    2. The BEDOUINS don't know Arabic
    3. There is no system, no justice, no humanity in their lands (against Non-Arabs) just rabid racism!
  19. May Allah (SWT) reward the Turks for preserving Islamic history otherwise these BARBARIANS have wiped the history of Islam and that of Sayyidina Rasul-ullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam).
    1. Where will the Muslims go to get a Eeman boost?
    2. In our lands (west) Priests have made Christianity into a parable (a story) with no historical facts so Saudees have tried to convert Islam into a historical fantasy by destorying history?
    3. Why can't we visit Bad'r, Uhud and prophet;s birth place? If there is Bid'ah, Shirk then stop it why destory history? If someone has a problem with the hand, do you amputate the hand or do you treat it?
    4. And they have kept their own history! I have visited Buradiah and Najd and they have kept the first fort which was occupied by Al-Saud and the mud military outposts and so on

Sometimes its OTT but by and large a Masterpiece by well learned and respected Maulana for speaking the truth!

Needs a full translation in English.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2013 05:14
Salamualaikum

We never hear from salafis ever talk about how Abdul wahhab died, where when and how he died. I read from a book somewhere that the ottomans captured him and put him on trial. The ottoman sultan had abdul wahhab executed or burned alive. He wasn't even given a janazah. Allahu alim. If any one has any info on this, please shed some light on it if possible. Sorry if this is off topic. Jazakullah
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2013 05:32
I don't know but compare what Maulana is saying to hundreds of Sufi British Deobandi Ulamah and Mashaykh who do nothing but praise Saudi Arabia and the rulers and give then lofty titles and honours.

As I said that these Saudees are destroyers of the Ottoman empire and they have committed the most heinous and disgusting crime against Islam and the Madkhalees and Ahl-e-Hadeeth have done nothing but divide the Ummah in the name of cutting the Ummah from true traditional knowledge and Madhabs and the refutation should be based on ground realities and hard facts and not just "Anti-Taqleed" rhetoric of Maulana Ilyas Ghumman Saheb (HA).

deobandees need to expose these Saudees, Madkhalees and Ahl-e-Hadeeth for what they really are! The Sufees wont ever do it so the rest of the conscious Deobandees should rise up and really expose this criminal Mafia masquerading in the name of Salaffiyah!

These people are not following Salaf, they are a bunch of "Majhoolun-Nasab (unknown lineage) " criminals. Maulana later on quotes a book (Tareekh Al-Saud) being reprinted which proves the tribe names of these Al-Saud to be Jewish based and Donmeh

Every decent Muslims should rise up and expose what these criminals did to the Ottomans and usurped our Khaleefa! Yes the Turks were not perfect and had issues with Aqeedah and Bidah but who appointed these "Majhoolun-Nasab" criminals to act on our behalf???
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2013 07:43
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No need to apologize the rules were put up not just for yourself but as a reminder for other users aswell. Jazakallah for posting
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2013 09:56
Assalam Alaikum,

Leave aside saudis they have power they'll do what suits them. What justification do the deobandi ulema, muftis, tasawwuf shaikhs have for supporting and praising the king and the system? The muftis and shaikhs who's financial benefit is connected to hajj and umrah arr somewhat justified because its about their stomachs, they run hajj iumrah groups, they earn good money. But what about others? What about Maulan ilyas ghumman? Why does he support the regime so much? Why does he praise them?

I heard maulana tariq jameel some years back during hajj, he said King Abdul Aziz was a Wali of Allah!!! He did a great service to haramain.

I see its a trend amongst deobandis to try to get fame in saudi, easy access, connections with saudi shaikhs.

Wallahu alam..
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2013 12:57
Topic split.

Please continue here www.muftisays.com/forums/14-peoples-say/7713-alazhar-decl... with regards to Egypt.

Please stick to the current topic. Irrelevant posts, posts inciting a debate or disrespect towards another member will be removed without notice. Jazakumullah

Please only post relevant issues to the current topic, otherwise please start a new topic. Jazakumullah
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2013 14:50
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where does maulana ilyas ghumman praise saudi monarchy?
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 16th October 2013 16:18
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2013 13:27
Khadim al-Haramayn calls for unity with all sorts of deviated sects (including Shi'ite) while openly promoting and supporting the the oppressors of Ahl al-Sunnah in Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2013/10/17/Saud...

This is the true face of the al-Salul Dynasty exposed over and over - by themselves.
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2013 14:36
@afriki_haqq

To be neutral (fair) he didn't mention any names or sects and could have been a neutral speech like we as Muslims would do everyday by making dua for Humanity being one!

It needs be looked at in context and not as a general comment.

That's just my opinion with regards to how and when the speech was made in comparison to what the comment above states.
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Khadim al-Haramayn calls for unity with all sorts of deviated sects (including Shi'ite) while openly promoting and supporting the the oppressors of Ahl al-Sunnah in Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.


Here is the segment from the speech from the link. One must also understand that this speech was made where people from all over the world gather around, at MINA.

Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah bin Abdelaziz said on Wednesday that Muslims should put their differences aside and open a dialogue between the difference sects of Islam.

"Our goals are for the interests of Muslims and because of the fear of division among Muslims. Dialogue between Islamic sects is the best way to unite and understand each other. Our differences should not affect the unity of the Islamic Ummah," read a statement from King Abdullah, which was read out by Crown Prince Salman at the annual reception held in Mina to welcome the heads of international hajj missions.

In the statement, the Saudi king also said that Muslims must put aside all the differences and rivalries by establishing a center of dialogue between Islamic sects in the holy city of Madina, a plan which was adopted by the Conference of Islamic Solidarity in Makkah during the month of Ramadan earlier this year.

He also said in his address that the kingdom will not allow any offence or interference in its internal or foreign affairs.

"From the land of the Prophet's message, we are telling the world that we are a nation that will never compromise its religious and moral values and we will never allow anyone to offend the sovereignty of our nation or interfere in its internal or foreign affairs," the king's statement read.

The king also expressed hopes for mutual respect and friendship between countries regardless of any interests and benefits.

"In this era of rivalries, we must reject authoritarianism and arrogance and if we realize this, then our hearts will have all the values of friendship and whoever disagrees is on his own, as we have the pride and dignity of our people."


Also note how he states that we are telling the world that we are a nation that will never compromise its religious and moral values
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