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If we look it in another way then we can safely conclude that regardless of a Muslim's qualification and educational level, if one doesn't have the correct mindset in regards to this life and the life here after as par the teachings of Islam then one can't confront the kuffar in an honorable manner.
Correct mindset helps.
But it is sufficient even if you get one thing right.
Let me give an example. Ahmed Shah Abdali managed to set up a kingdom in Kabul. I have forgotten the details but Ali Miyan (RA) wrote in Tareekh-e-Dawat-o-Azeemat to the effect that either his method or his character was not really above board. Yet Shah Waliullah RA wrote to him about the Fitna created by the Marathas in India. And Abdali came and solved the problem in a single swift and massive move called the Third Battle of Panipat.
It is clear that most of the time getting into too many details is not very useful.
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Pardon my ignorance and factual mistakes, but I am of the impression that the problem of Sir Syed Ahmed Khan's ideology was not that he wanted Muslims of India to learn science and compete the Hindus. His main problem was that he was obsessed with science to the extent that he genuinely believed that the British are superior to us because of their technological advancement and we must adopt their ways and ethics if we want to modernize and attain our rightful place as an honourable nation in the world.
Because of this he couldn't create a morally Islamic environment (with the tendency of acceptance of western scientific uloom) in his university. This resulted in the creation of a generation well versed in English language, equipped to a certain extent with technical expertise but with a wrong mindset and slave mentality.
Following late Dr Israr Ahmed I shall conquer that Sir Syed was among those who were overwhelmed by the worldly success of the British and Deoband was the stream that simply remained unfazed.
But the very fact that Sir Syed wrote to Hazrat Maulana Qasim Nanotvi RA to take care of the theological education of the MAO College, predecessor of AMU, speaks most clearly that Sir Syed knew how to differentiate between his opinion and the stark reality.
Then we have to move on to Allama Iqbal. Allama was more of a heir to Sir Syed than Deoband.
Yet we can not forget that he, the Allama, was again unfazed by the dazzle of material and military success of the UK, west and Europe.
Thus in summary we can concede that Sir Syed's analysis has problems what he got right was monumental.
And as Muadh Khan has pointed out that Taliban might have obtained huge success against the Kuffar but the without the modern means the route henceforth is not easy at all.
This sort of summarizes the ultimate outcome of the Deoband movement, whatever can be attributed to D.
I must acknowledge D's (or their ancestors') achievement in Shamli 1857, Silken Letters Movement and the monumental role in preservation of the Islamic knowledge.
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And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war (tanks, planes, missiles, artillery, etc.) to threaten the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides whom, you may not know but whom Allah does know. And whatever you shall spend in the Cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you, and you shall not be treated unjustly. (Quran 8:60)
We need technology. Whether we want to defend our lands from enemy forces or from Modi type opressive Kafir regimes. We need technology. Whether we need to build the markaz, which can be the beginning point for Global Khilafah Revolution or else become self sufficient as communities of practicing Muslims at micro level.
However, if our energies are exhausted on the technical sides of the things alone and not on the ideological aspects of our development then there will be no difference between how the kuffar percieve life on earth and how we do so.
You have to make a clear stand on Science and Technology. Deoband's stand is clear. They simply have disdain for it. (And hence they have disdain for us - the AMU crowd.) Of course they do not have the courage to say it on our face. And of course they go in and out of AMU with their set mind set.
Of course Aligarh has got its own weak points. For example in last 72 years we simply could not figure out an ideology for the Muslims of India. But, then, neither could D.
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Culturally, the Chineese, Russians and Japanese are as westernized as the West itself in terms of clubs, nudity, alchohol and drugs etc (with minor differences like language and food). Muslims technical or non technical, without any ideological basis will behave in the similar manner.
Basically the problem is to adopt western science and technology without imbibing their culture.
Late Dr Israr Ahmed RA excelled over D in this department.
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Those whose aim is to gather as much pleasure as possible in this dunia and who have forgotten akhirah in the times of peace. Will they be willing to sacrifice whatever they have during war time?
We are Muslims and our worldview is different from this.
Of course majority of Muslims remain dazzled by the west. For example Pakistan is absolutely like herd of sheep in this matter. UAE is most decadent western society.
And these are big problems. And these have to be dealt with. These are internal problems and internal problems usually are more damaging than the external enemy.
So I agree with your worries in above quote but you'll agree that the same statement is made by the D intelligentsia. And in their case their meaning is completely different. For example they reject science and technology completely.
And let me assure you - the common Muslims who are dazzled by the western opulence are very unlikely to listen to the Mullah. Mark my words.
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If we want to resist this Global Secular Mindset then we need to take some concrete steps in order to ensure that we are on the right track.
Just allow the globe to go to the pigs, melt down and flow into hell. When an American comes out with a gun and randomly shoots people in a theater or super market I browse to the nest item in the news feed.
They have killed far more innocent Muslims than their people dying in their own shootings.
I am worried about the Muslims. In fact if they fall into western ways then also I shall ignore them as long as I can manage to live according to what Rasoolallah SAW told.
Unfortunately that is not the case. Feminism, so called liberal democratism, socialism, Marxism and the works come and intrude into our life. And these do so to the extent that there is no place for us to migrate to.
We Muslims have to get up and take notice of their intrusion.
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The More Privileged You are the Bigger the Responsibility
Agree.
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Migrating from the third world to the first world for wordly benefits is not wrong. However, studying in the best institutions, benefitting from latest scientific research and then not creating the tools for ummah to help the Muslimeen in a manner that they could start working to achieve their past glory and reverse the process of Western encroachment is deceit, dishonesty and selfishness of the highest order.
Completely agree once again. Sadly the selfishness is something that D itself does not address. That too can not be ignored. Incidentally the Hindus consider selfishness a negative disposition.
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Wisdom is not only in highlighting the problem but also providing a concrete and practical solution.
Well, my dear, I have invested more than a decade in this pursuit only.
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However, what is your contribution? Yes You! I am talking to you O people of Science.
A teacher of mine one remarked in our staff room that it is a big achievement of Aligarh Movement to have made the atom bomb. I was confused because though we have a very good nuclear physics group at AMU but I did not know of anyone working on the bomb.
And then it hit me. He was talking about Pakistan! So there my brother. The science people have done it. And every single achievement in the field of science and technology by Pakistan will go to the account of Aligarh and not D.
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Pardon again for my historical and factual mistakes, but I am of the impression that the kuffar learned science from our universities and went back to their muddy, failed countries with oppressive Christian Papal regimes. They sacrificed their health, wealth and lives to enlighten their dark societies and faced countless numbers of merciless deaths. They initiated Renaissance movements. They initiated revolutions. They stood up for their rights against those very dark and oppressive regimes.
Who stopped you to do the same for this ummah? Did molvies stop you? Did Western governments stop you?
Our situation is not completely hopeless my brother.
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Therefore, we need technical institutions of our own in the West as well as in the East with teachers and professors who practice Islam in letter and in spirit. Whose main objective is to train Practicing Technical Muslims with strong and deep Islamic Ideological Roots in order to resist Slave Mentality and a sincere and true urge to serve this deen and this wonderful ummah.
It is difficult to disagree with it.
Yet remember it is sufficient if you use your God given abilities in favour of and for the benefit of Muslim Ummah. Qayad-e-Azam was not a very good Muslim but he did much more for the Ummah than many of the selfish Sufis.
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I invite you to collectively gather and spend your resources to build such institutions and achieve what Aligarh University and Darul Uloom could not.
Very noble thought and exhortation indeed. May you succeed in your task.
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The Jews alongwith fulfilling their individual responsibilities are helping each other grow as an ummah to further their agenda. The Christians and Hindus are doing the same for their people. Even Qadianis help each other as a distinct community.
Let us not forget that our men who were indulging in struggle have achieved a lot. Decimation of USSR, bringing US to negotiations and all that. I suppose it is time for the modern education people to do the due.
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However, what is our approach as an ummah? What are our priorities? Why we are satisfied with individual acts of worship? Why can't we dream big? Why have we lost hope? Is it Scientific Backwardness? Or is it WAHN and lack of will to change?
These are the questions that have been keeping me busy. In case you promise to take over from here onward then I shall be most grateful.
To be continued....