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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 20th August 2019 17:13
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That can be understood, but when it comes to the effects of tawajjuh as mentioned in stories of Sufis, the effects go beyond what yoy have mentioned.

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The episode ofHadhrat Khwajah Baqi Billah in this regard is famous. HadhratShah Abdul Aziz has narrated that once several guests were by Hadhrat BaqiBillah. But there was nothing by way of food in his home. With this concern hecame out of the house. Nearby was a bakery. When the baker learnt of the arrivalof the guests he presented some elaborately prepared food. Out of sheer elation,Hadhrat said to the baker: “Ask whatever you wish for.” The baker replied: “Makeme like you.” Hadhrat replied: “You will not be ableto bear it.” But, the bakerinsisted that he be made like Hadhrat. After refusing several times, the adamanceof the baker finally prevailed. Hadhrat took the baker into his room and castTawajjuh Ittihaadi on him. When they emerged from the room, the Tawajjuh hadpermeated even his external appearance. The baker’s appearance was identical tothat of Hadhrat. However, the difference was Hadhrat’s consciousness andalertness while the baker was in a state of semi-consciousness. On the third daywhile in thisstate of semi-consciousness, the baker died. May Allah’s mercy be onhim.It was this type of Tawajjuh Ittihaadi which Jibraeel (alayhis salaam) cast onRasulullah () with his embrace. However, Rasulullah () was already spiritually fortified, hence he had the ability to absorbthe Tawajjuh of Jibraeel (alayhis salaam). Nevertheless, the Angel’s repeatedembrace made him feverish. On reaching home he exclaimed to Hadhrat Khadijah:“Wrap me up! Wrap me up!” After regaining his composure, he narrated to her hisexperience in the Cave. He added that he feared for his life. Hadhrat Khadijah,having heard of such occurrences from her brother, Warqah Bin Naufal, wasexpecting some supernatural enactment in regard to Muhammad (). She, therefore, consoled him, saying: “You are kind to children. You aremerciful to widows. You always speak the truth. You have always defended thetruth. Everyone is aware of your sterling qualities and high moral character. Yourhospitality, concern for the poor and patriotism will show good results. Therefore,fear not.”
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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 20th August 2019 17:17
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That's what I am saying. Trying to equate angelic eye with changing of taqdeer is basically an attempt to seek logic behind angelic eye.
If some knowledgeable person were to tell me that in the experience of some auliyah Allah angelic eye affects a person just as evil eye would, I'd accept this without seeking the why and how of it. Because I don't see it as changing of taqdeer.
If however, that person were to tell me to do such and such amal to achieve the benefits of angelic eye, then I would be forced to inquire about the source of such a ruling. Because our prescribed aamaal are from the Shariah itself. Like reciting the quls for prevention of evil eye. That is derived directly from the Hadith and Sunnah, not the experience of some wali.
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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 20th August 2019 17:56
I appreciate I gave the OP the title and that I came up with the term "Angelic Eye"

But let us please understand the title again:

Can someone bring you good fortune with their glance?
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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 20th August 2019 18:29
That's the same as asking "Can someone bring you bad fortune with their glance?"

And we know the answer to that.

Exactly the same principle applies to this case too.
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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 20th August 2019 18:37
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The same principle cannot be applied without evidence!
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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 20th August 2019 18:46
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There are two different issues :

1) Does ‘good glance’ exist like evil eye exist ? YES, it does.

2) Can both or either of them change taqdeer ?

Both evil eye or good glance can NOT change taqdeer. They can be ‘part of taqdeer’ itself, that such and such thing would happen resulting in such and such events...

Both of these can not affect anyone positively or negatively unless Allah swt has written it in our taqdeer :

قُل لَّن يُصِيبَنَا إِلَّا مَا كَتَبَ اللَّهُ لَنَا هُوَ مَوْلَانَا ۚ وَعَلَى اللَّهِ فَلْيَتَوَكَّلِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ
(Say: "Nothing will happen to us except what Allah has decreed for us: He is our protector": and on Allah let the Believers put their trust.)

So that point is clear to all of us, further confirmed by :

مَا أَصَابَ مِن مُّصِيبَةٍ فِي الْأَرْضِ وَلَا فِي أَنفُسِكُمْ إِلَّا فِي كِتَابٍ مِّن قَبْلِ أَن نَّبْرَأَهَا ۚ إِنَّ ذَٰلِكَ عَلَى اللَّهِ يَسِيرٌ ‘ لِّكَيْلَا تَأْسَوْا عَلَىٰ مَا فَاتَكُمْ وَلَا تَفْرَحُوا بِمَا آتَاكُمْ ۗ وَاللَّهُ لَا يُحِبُّ كُلَّ مُخْتَالٍ فَخُورٍ
(No disaster strikes upon the earth or among yourselves except that it is in a register before We bring it into being – indeed that, for Allah, is easy –)

So as for the question of taqdeer being changed directly by evil eye or angelic eye, it is settled that it can not happen.

As for myself, I am only discussing the mechanism of both out of pure academic curiosity, otherwise no further discussion is actually needed.The point is settled already by Quran, and who can open his mouth about the matter after clear statements by Quran ?

It is up to Allah swt to decide how He swt implements his taqdeer. Technically both evil eye and tawajjo are correct, both can happen by the will of Allah swt and both can have their effects IF Allah swt wants it, otherwise not....
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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 20th August 2019 19:00
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And what would the evidence be in this case?
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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 20th August 2019 19:13
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The same type of evidence we use for the evil eye.
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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 25th August 2019 19:39
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Wa Alaikum Assalam w.w.

infact have a folder of articles for translations.. but barakah in time is not the same as before..

May be my sins.. or evil eye..

For sins i should continue istighfar.. for evil eye.. may be u all should recite 3 Quls and blow on my user id.. :-)

duas..

wa Assalam..

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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 25th August 2019 21:14
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Alhamdulillah, your advice has been followed.

I'm now awaiting a massive flow of translatory works which will act as a sadaqah jariyah for you :)
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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 14th December 2019 09:57
Maybe not quite the same as evil eye and definitely not good fortune but it appears some can burn things to ashes with their glance.

After the maghrib prayer on the 21st of Shawwal, 613 AH, the Nikah of Hazrat Ali Ahmed Sabir was solemnised and his mother lighted a lamp and directed the bride to his hujra, while she stood at the door of the hujra. Hazrat Sabir, however, remained busy in his usual deep devotion while the poor bride stood there till the time of Tahajjud , at which point he noticed her and asked: "Who are you?" She replied: "I am your wife." Hazrat Sabir retorted:
“ But how is it possible to accommodate the love of two in one heart? I have already entertained the love of one. There is no room for any another's love in my heart." ”
The moment he finished these words, a furious flame arose from the floor of the hujra and reduced the bride to ashes.

Not sure how authentic this is. Was found over here: sufiwiki.com/Alauddin_Sabir_Kaliyari
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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 14th December 2019 10:19
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“ But how is it possible to accommodate the love of two in one heart? I have already entertained the love of one. There is no room for any another's love in my heart." ”

The same way Rasulullah صلی الله عليه وسلم accomodated the love of his wives, his children, his friends, relatives and Sahaba in his heart.

Sorry if I sound ignorant but why did he even marry her when he was already conviced that he would not be able to love anyone apart from Allah ta'ala?

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The moment he finished these words, a furious flame arose from the floor of the hujra and reduced the bride to ashes.

What was the fault of that poor bride?


These bizarre stories create an aversion to sufism. That is against the sunnah of Rasulullah صلی الله عليه وسلم which is the best path for us to follow.
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#43 [Permalink] Posted on 14th December 2019 12:08
Just stick to the stories from the Qur'an, Seerah of Rasulullah (SAW), the Companions (RA) and the scholars of the Salaf (RA).

These sufi stories get weirder each time.
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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 14th December 2019 12:22

I will be keeping my "eye" on this thread and my "gaze" focused on the posters :P

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#45 [Permalink] Posted on 14th December 2019 13:23
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You ‘angelic eye’ is always welcome :)
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