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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 03:43
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Really? Looks like I slept right through everything. I am near Faisal Base, but didn't hear any jets patrol either last night.

I don't know about others here but I have been expecting something like this to happen ever since Pakistan let that blasphemer Aasia off the hook. What with major ulema and akabireen dying, some of whom one could say were the abdaals or qutb of our time, it seemed like Allah was setting us up for some hardship.
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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 05:21
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Looks like Pakistan played well this time,both diplomatically and militarily.To be honest,if (God forbid)I was Modi,I would be a bit worried:

Modi claimed Pakistan was responsible for Pulwama but could not give even one evidence,so it remains an accusation

They dropped their bombs in some desolate area claiming they killed 300 plus jaish fighters.No evidence provided.Pakistani media showing the area with only a few trees injured,no dead bodies,no funerals...

Pakistan attacks their defence installations across the border at six points in IOK and shot 2 Indian jets.Indian foreign office admits to the attack and to the loss of its two jets,plus Indian pilot is in Pakistan custody for all to see....

What Pakistan did is with proof for all to see while India could not show a thing :-)

Pakistan maintained moral high ground all along,made politically correct statements,its media and people remained calm and dignified as against mass hysteria on Indian side.The prime minister and the armed forces looked in full control of the situation.

Modi could not achieve any of his objectives and in time to come he ‘may’ have to pay a price for it in his elections.When the war hysteria dies down,the opposition will certainly make him accountable for the loss of billions in stock exchange etc.

This is the current situation. The hostilities may not have ended yet and new events may emerge...

Allah knows best.
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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 09:14
Now Imran should ban all terrorists organisations based in Pakistan to de-escalate ages long tension, often, results in skirmishes between the two countries.

War always brings destruction and economically Pakistan is too weak to bear the expenses of a long war.

Being the hub of terrorists also Pakistan doesn't attract the tourists, he as a cricketer understands why no foreign team visits his country.
If terrorism is uprooted, Pakistan will no more be a disturbed country.
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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 09:19
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Name a terrorist organisation in Pakistan (not including any Govt. linked or ISIS enthisuasts)
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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 09:36
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Terrorists are not,non-state actors should not be used to achieve foreign policy objectives.

I will refrain from writing more on the subject,as some very sweet fellows here might get hurt :)
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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 09:41
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The 850'000 strong Indian Terrorist
. Occupation force in Kashmir that have been carrying out mass rape and genocide for decades needs to be removed.

Otherwise there will be no peace. Until the people of Kashmir are free from tyrrany and oppression.

Pakistani people can easily handle a long sustained war..They have proven their resilience during the post 9-11 era. The insurgency in tribal areas, Huge earthquake, huge floods.The economy collapsed over a decade ago.

The Indians on the other hand have been relatively comfortale had billion dollars of foreign investment
International corporations...Any sustained war will damage India terribly.



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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 10:07
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Essentially brethren are so blinded by their nationalism, and use. And use anti-Islamic tropes to dehumanise and demonise oppressed and tyrranised Muslims as Terrorists.

Just parroting the anti-muslim media and labelling the oppressed muslims from Kashmir to palestine to Burma many other parts of the world as Terrorists...Whilst offering tacit approval for tyrrany and oppression against the oppresseds.

La Hawala Wala Quwwata Illa Billah.

Shame on you.
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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 10:21
Of course the Indian Muslims will never talk about the lakhs of Indian terrorists in Kashmir and India itself. Why don't you tell India to ban Shiv Sena, RSS and BJP?

There is no terrorist organization in Pakistan. Stop watching television and receiving your news from the faasiq media.
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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 10:24
@Abdur Rahman ibn Awf:

Turning your face from reality doesn't work.

''Prime Minister Imran Khan addressed the nation through a video message on Wednesday, reassuring people regarding the steps taken by his government to tackle the economic hardships faced by the country.

Beginning his address with the "good news" about the financial package the government has secured from Saudi Arabia, he said: "We were trying for many days to get rid of this burden placed on us of the debt. We had to pay back our debts otherwise we would have been faced with default."

"We have got an amazing package from Saudi Arabia... which has taken off the burden."

He said had the government approached the International Monetary Fund (IMF) for a bailout directly, it would have to borrow more money that would result in an increased impact on the poor segments of society.

"So our efforts were geared towards getting loans from friendly countries," he said, adding that now even if the government goes to the IMF, it won't need as big a package from the lender.''
www.dawn.com/news/1441064?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C1024744043

''“Never in Pakistan’s history have we faced such difficult economic circumstances. Our debt burden is Rs 28 trillion. We haven’t been as indebted in our entire history as we have been in the last ten years,” he said.

“The interest that we have to pay on our debt has reached to a level that we have to take more debt to repay our obligations. Our external debt obligations have reached a level that we have to contemplate how we are going to grapple with them,” Mr. Khan said.

“On one hand we are so indebted, and on the other hand our human development index ranking is very poor,” he said.''
www.thehindu.com/news/international/in-his-maiden-address...
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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 10:26
You know what? I am sick of this anti-Muslim and pro-mushrik propaganda by Muslims themselves. If this is the state of their aqaid then it's not hard to imagine why they are being oppressed by mushrik tyrants. After all, whatever affairs are thrust upon us, are the result of our own deeds. We can look left and right to blame, but it won't change the fact that the problem is within ourselves.

Always remember, one who is not afraid of Allah, Allah makes it so that he is scared of all of the creation. And whoever fears Allah, Allah makes it so that all creation is afraid of him.
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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 10:39
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What reality? When the economy in Pakistan was doing well in the late 1990's the people of Pakistan saw little benefit.
Conversley when the economy collapsed the majority of people felt little effect from it.

The only people who will be affacted by a sustained war will be the wealthy and thevrich elite.

As for the rest of the population they are selfreliant..you will find schools funded by locals themsekves, roads built by locaks themselves, clinics built by locals themselves...Government has little impact in their lives.

The population is self-sufficient and selfreliant they know how to survive
On little and are very resourceful.

Poverty brings its own stregnth, the people of Afghanistan have suffered over 4 decades of war they still surviving.

It is only when the richman is afflicted with poverty that loses his mind and does not know how to cope.

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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 10:58
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Assalamu alaikum brother, please answer abu Mohammed's question. I'm genuinely interested to know which terrorist organizations you're referring to.
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#43 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 11:02
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If you are going to say JeM, then brother I feel sorry for you and your understanding of the Quran and Sunnah.
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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 11:03
@Abdur Rahman ibn Awf:
Use your brain instead of heart

1: If the people of your country are self reliant, it is good but I'm talking about the war, your government isn't able to bear the expenses, your PM wil not be asking from shopkeepers or fruit sellers or biryani wala..etc. Your country will need more debt from China, Saudi Arabia or IMF.

2: Present situation between both countries has nothing to do with Islam.

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#45 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 11:12
Lol, dodging the question! Multiple times now

Which political party do you belong to? Lololol or you playing it safe so your Iman ain't questioned?
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