Pakistan vs India: Background, Conflict, Analysis

Darul-uloom Deoband holds these beliefs so there is no Fatwa to come. They usually equally condemn Indian attorcities and Kashmiri uprising in the same sentence without differenrentiating.

www.jamiatulama.in/single-post/2019/02/15/Jamiat-condemns...

Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind’s General Secretary Maulana Mahmood Madani has strongly condemned attack on Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) convoy in Kashmir's Pulwama district. He said that this was horribly terror attack that contradicts Holy the very spirit of Islam and jihad. “We all Indian citizens stand shoulder to shoulder with the bereaved families of the killed soldiers and we are united in condemnation of terrorists who carried out this horrendous act.

www.jamiatulama.in/single-post/2018/12/16/Jamiat-condemns...

New Delhi 16-12-2018:Maulana Mahmood Madani, General Secretary of Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind has expressed his deep concern over and condemned killing of six civilians including a child by security forces in Pulwama district, Kashmir. He said that suck brutal killing is unacceptable in any parts of the world. He further said that history testifies to the fact that peace and order in any troubled region cannot be restored by killing its own people. He also said that the central government should derive a lesson from its flawed policies about Kashmir and initiate process for confidence building among Kashmiri people.

Maulana Madani has also demanded the central government take punitive action against guilty personals and provide adequate financial compensation to the family members of those killed.  Beside that a sense of responsibility can be created among security forces so that they may have a feeling that they are not above the law.

You are an extremist and no better then ArafatZafar.

Jzk

No and I do not care whether you worry about my criticism or not; it does not change the facts.

You are looking at issues through the prism of Pakistan and you do have some Islamic evidence for your position (in this particular case).

• Indian Ulama are trapped inside a majority Hindu country (rightly or wrongly) and are under danger of loosing honour, property and life.  Under the circumstances, it would be an enormous reward if they stuck to the truth HOWEVER there is some (Islamic) support for their behaviour in order to save the lives of millions of Muslims. They can withdraw from the public discourse but this will leave a vacuum which can be exploited, they do not have a choice but to calibrate their responses. The fact that you are overlooking this ground reality is an error on your part. You are doing what British Muslims do to the Americans every day with a smug superior attitude. The fact is that your Government, your Army and your Ulama are NO MODEL for anyone to follow! Indian Ulama have to be praised for trying (and succeeding) to a large extent in preserving Islam of their population under the most adverse conditions. There is more (outward and inward) Islam in India then there is in Pakistan and it is clearly visible.
• ArafatZafar (on the other hand) is operating on a forum voluntarily. He has voluntarily decided to inject his opinion into a matter from which he could stay out. There are plenty of other Indians who are either keeping out or being conservative. There is no excuse for that. I disagree with ArafatZafar on his opinions but what he is expressing ARE THE VIEWS of many Indian Ulama (rightly or wrongly). He is not doing Ijethaad but expressing what many Indian Ulama genuinely believed.
  

You need to read history. Many Indian Muslims (layman and Ulama) believed that obedience should be in this order:

1. Allah Ta’ala
2. Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam)
3. Mahatma Gandhi

Many Indian Muslims (layman and Ulama) believed and still believe that Hindus are Ahlul-Kitaab!

AND I AM NOT KIDDING!

Perhaps this is the first time you have come across these views but their views are no different to Extremist Pakistani views and here is Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto calling Bangali Muslim PIGS

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo5a5mR6SZY

This is how "YOUR PEOPLE" treated Bangalees:

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Here is how "YOUR PEOPLE" treat Rohingya today:

edition.cnn.com/2017/09/11/asia/pakistan-stateless-rohing...

"Pakistani Nationals" are least suited to be lecturing Indian Muslims on "Indian Nationals"...As far I am concerned you are both two sides of the same coin.

Here is Maulana Tanveerul-Haq Thanwi who is part of MQM (racist organisation)

www.siasat.pk/forums/threads/mqm-has-appointed-moulana-ta...

P.S: I have spoken to him in the past (when I did not know that this Jackass was part of MQM) so you may find my old quotes on Sunniform and Muftisays about him; when I spoke to him. I was referred to him by a good friend who is not Pakistani and also did not know about his political affiliations.

So was Dr Allamah Iqbal

So was Muhammad Ali Jinnah

So was Zaulfiqar Ali Bhutto and he is also using Allah in his speech!

So was General Ziaul-Haq

So is Maulana Tanveer

So is Maulana Fazlur-Rahman

And so are you...

All use "Islam" to justify your views, sometimes it fits, sometimes it is a stretch and sometimes it is dead wrong.

You DO NOT know what conditions Indian Muslims live in so you have NO RIGHT to apply your DIY Ijtehad to them. Right next door to you "China" is doing the same thing and your "Ulama" are silent on the matter but SHOUTING on Kashmir. That tells me all I need to know about "Pakistani Islam"