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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 24th December 2018 22:50
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 25th December 2018 07:44
Asalam o Alaikum,

May Allah bless and guide you for this great share and May Allah bless Muhammad Hijab for defending the ideology of Islam. I love this lion of Islam.
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 25th December 2018 18:27
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dyzc282ZFE&t=16s

another great speech by brother mohammed on liberalism. we all need to learn about this fitnah as its the number 1 thing behind the explosion of murtadeen. this way of life the kuffar have is very nafsaani. do what u love and love what u do as long as ur nt harming anyone. it appeals to the nafs. but even islam aside once u look into this idea in practise it falls apart. it is just an illusion. behind all the glamour and glitter its nothing but darkness and misery.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2018 03:46
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 29th January 2019 07:24
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 5th February 2019 18:33
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2019 01:12
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How do you define liberalism, brother? According to many muttaqi Ulama, someone who thinks that shaving or trimming short is ok, is liberal himself.

We have many youtuber Daa'ees today who shave their beard, mix and chat freely with sisters, neglect many sunnats, but they complain about liberals who are more liberal than themselves. Are these youtubers not a big fitnah themselves? Consider that it is our sins, especially the open sins, is why we are being punished by Allah.

So how and where do we draw the line about who is liberal and who is not?
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2019 07:41
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We are not learning fiqh or sunnah from these "youtuber da'aees". We are just listening to them because of their sound logic, knowledge about secularism and alien western ideologies and the way they destroy Atheists, Secularists and Liberalists. When ulema will not focus on the aqeeda issues of current times and when they will not upgrade the ilm ul kalam according to current times then we will have to listen these types of people who have sound latest intellect to deal with the kuffar despite the fact that their outlook and mannerism isn't traditional and isn't to our liking. We need this kind of knowledge to strengthen our iman and to know with yaqeen that these are all batil ideologies with very weak and contradictory foundations and that our deen is the best, pure, natural and accurate way of life.
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2019 09:15
Muhammad ibn Sireen (D.110AH) said: “Indeed this knowledge is your religion, so look to whom you take your religion from.”

Ibn Qudaamah (رحمه الله) (D. 600AH) said: “And from the sunnah is to boycott the people of innovation, distancing one’s self from them, leaving off argumentation in the religion and to leave off looking into the books of the people of innovation and listening to their speech, and every newly innovated matter in the religion is a bid’ah.”
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2019 09:50
Correct! However, here religion is not being taken. Instead alien ideologies are being refuted and we intend to benefit from these kinds of discussions. There is a difference between the two. We will not look at the length of Shaykh Ahmed Deedat's RH beard but we will look at the quality of this azeem da'aee who defeated Christian missionaries single handedly.

Either produce ulema who can deal with liberalism and secularism in the language their opponents and the awaam know or else bear these kind of "liberal" "munazirs" keeping this in mind that we will not learn shariah from them but we will take whatever good they can offer in terms of refuting these alien ideologies.
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2019 09:52
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Assalamu alaikum

How do you explain this hadith?

عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ الْكَلِمَةُ الْحِكْمَةُ ضَالَّةُ الْمُؤْمِنِ فَحَيْثُ وَجَدَهَا فَهُوَ أَحَقُّ بِهَا

Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The wise saying is the lost property of the believer, so wherever he finds it then he has a right to it.”

Source: Sunan At-Tirmidhi 2687
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2019 09:54
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I appreciate that brother, and I know exactly what you mean.

At the same time, we won't sit and listen to RECITATION of the Quran from the Shia or Qadyani. All they are doing is reciting the words of Allah, but our hearts will not think twice about listening to them. (or at least that's how I feel)
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2019 09:57
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2019 10:02
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Of course! However, I don't know about the other guy but Mohammed Hijab is far from being a shia or qadiyani or any deviant. He is a good Muslim and I have Husn e Dhann about him. In a debate he himself has described himself a Hanbali. Even if he is a salafi hiding behind the label of "Hanbali" I will keep on listening to him as long as he doesn't utter any sectarian rubbish. He is a history teacher and very good at dealing with atheists, secularists and liberalists.

If we can dispute about leaving certain types of labels because of fear of sectarianism then we should also widen our hearts and accept what good other "Muslims" are doing even if we have slight differences in aqeedah.

I think not appreciating the efforts of Dr.Naik because he is a salafi is the real problem and is in reality "sectarianism". It is not these innocent labels but this type of attitude which is the real threat. Also according to some ulema including Shaykh Khalid Abdus Sattar and Shaykh Hasan Ali HA Salafis are included in Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaat.
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