what is thiqah?

And Allamah Zafar Ahmed Usmani (RA) is speaking from his back pocket?

Some "Hanafaees" have claimed that Imam Abu Haneefa (RA)...

www.deoband.org/2013/01/history/answering-distortions-and...

As for his narration from the Sahabah, Imam Abu Ma‘shar ‘Abd al-Karim ibn ‘Abd al-Samad al-Tabari al-Muqri’ al-Shafi‘i (d. 478 H) affirmed it, and he compiled a volume on it, as has preceded. He is from the great scholars of the Shafi‘is. Abu Bakr Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Baqi and others narrated from him, as mentioned in Tabaqat al-Shafi‘iyyah (3:243). Hafiz [Ibn Hajar al-‘Asqalani] mentioned him in Lisan al-Mizan, and he said: “He narrated from a group and he resided in Makkah, and he taught recitation [of the Qur’an] to people for a long time. Abu Nasr al-Ghazi, Abu Bakr ibn ‘Abd al-Baqi al-Ansari, and Abu Tamam al-Damiri and others narrated from him…Ibn Tahir said: ‘I heard Abu Sa‘d al-Harami say in Herat: ‘Abu Ma‘shar’s audition of Juz’ Ibn Nazif is not authentic, and he only took a copy and narrated it.’ I say: This is not a valid criticism.” (4:50)

Details here:

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In Urdu read page 22 onwards

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P.S: Allamah Shibli Naumani (RA) has made a clear mistake.

You have not read either the English, Urdu and Arabic version of what I have been posting at all because it answers and presents proof of all of this.

Allamah Shibli Numani (RA) actually presents no proof whatsoever but hypotheticals i.e. his students would have done this or that. There are actual Isnaad of Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) narrating from the Sahaba (RA) which are proven and accurate and some which are suspect and some which are weak (for other reasons).

Allamah Shibli Naumani (RA) is not an expert Muhadith so his opinion counts for nothing in this matter and even on face value it is nothing.

You are free to believe in whatever you wish, we live in a democracy.

Ok...I was distracted so now back to this.

Musnad of Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) was neither researched nor properly published at the time of Allamah Shibli Naumani (RA) so he could not have researched this up properly.

His whole research is based on quoting others and hypothetical scenarios.

This is a common occurrence.

Here is a blatant example of (many of the) Deobandi Ulama quoting an opinion which we now know to be suspect. They are merely quoting what is written and spoken by Ulama previously without looking at the actual text and verifying.

www.wifaqululama.co.uk/dhahir/

They had no way to verify it because the books were not available.

It is “now” highly possible for Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) to have narrated from a Sahabi (RA) because we have a few Phd Thesis on this issue and in-depth knowledge.

Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) neither authored a Musnad himself so it had to be done by his students (later).

It is a scenario where we can see why Allamah Shibli Naumani (RA) differs, there are renowned Ulama who believe that Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) did not narrate from Sahaba (RA) and renowned Ulama who (in the past and now) say that he did so it is a EITHER, OR scenario.

Either way you can choose to make Taqleed of either opinion, because it is not a straightforward cut and dry answer, we will never get an agreement. Those who disagree can easily produce the opinions of classical Ulama to say otherwise, those who agree can also easily produce classical and new research.

But one thing Allamah Saheb (RA) is definitely wrong on is to claim that “Hanafees” have come up with this claim…EVEN if Hanafees did 20 out of 22 exclusive narrators of Thulayiaat of Saheeh Bukhair are Hanafees so what is the issue he is pointing to?

Lastly, he is Tab’ee and narration of Hadeeth is not a condition to be a Tab’ee (as you know) and many did not but are still Taba’ees.