For nearly two decades, there is resentment amongst Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslims against Gujrataees who seem to be running most (Deobandee) Islamic Institutions and movements.
The issue of Maulana Saad has given the Pakistanees and Bangladeshis a hook to galvanise against Gujrataees. There are errors on the side of other Ulama like favouritism and nepotism. Certain Gujratees are guilty of using Tableegh to further their personal and financial gain and there is no doubt in this matter. Both sides are unwilling to accept their errors and compromise.
The simple solution is for these Gujarati elders who are guilty of financial embalzzelment over decades is RESIGN and LEAVE but their Ego is not allowing them to do so. They would rather cling to power and destory the work in the process.
Pakistanees and Bangladeshis have genuine complains and grievances which need to be addressed.
The other party which is backing Maulana Saad is doing it simply out of hereditary consideration i.e. leadership of Tableeghi Jamaat must always remain within a single family and must always be led from a single location (i.e. Nizamuddeen Markaz).
Maulana Saad has made serious, severe and catastrophic mistakes and it is clear as daylight.
Hazrat (Maulana) Yusuf Motala Saheb (DB) is not well, it is well known and his Bayan at the Dewsbury Markaz this weekend is clear manifestation of him not being well, his Bayan covered:
It is clear to any sane, balanced, fair-minded individual that his Bayan was not coherent and certainly had less to do with Tableeghi Jamaat as would be expected in an Ijtema. This is not putting down Hazrat (Maulana) Yusuf Motala Saheb (DB), his contributions to the Deen or his rank, stature or knowledge. This Bayan is available for people to listen to it, themselves.
90% of those seated on the stage during the Ijtema either had disagreements with Hafiz Patel (RA) or didn’t participate in the work OR don’t participate even now.
These are facts which cannot be disputed.
However, we (as Muslims) are under the punishment of Allah due to our sins. We are into “Hazrat-Worship†where we are offended and equate disagreement with our Hazrats to blasphemy towards Nabi (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam). Then we have a number of people who simply suffer from serious Ego problems and want attention. A Muslim is supposed to be fair, just and equitable even when it comes to his own family. You will defend and follow the errors of people until you "may be" thrust face down into the fire of Jahannum. Don't disrespect people, don't abuse people, be silent, leave the gathering if you have to BUT don't defend what the body of Ulama and your heart and mind understands and knows to be not the truth.
We blame Donald Trump but we (as Muslims) have become equally partisan and present facts which suit our narrative instead of being able to look at the whole picture. If our Nafs (ego) was not an issue, we would sit down with someone if we are unable to get to the bottom of issues and ask for help. But we also seek help from those who are incompetent or biased just like us. If someone wishes to know the truth about Maulana Saad, the answer is not to watch all the videos in his support OR to join a WhatsApp group of his supporters.
Some people genuinely lack intelligence to grasp facts such as the Muftisays brother who tweets in support of Maulana Asaad, he is simply unable to grasp simple facts like 2 + 2 =4
It is the same with Peer Zulfiqar or any other Hazrats. People will come here to defend their Hazrat regardless of looking at the issue. Is it permissible for Peer Zulfiqar to be in touch with Na-Mehram women and HAS HE NOT given Tawajjuh to Na-Mehram women? Yes Or No?
Maulana Saad has a catalogue of errors based on which Darul-uloom Deoband (a collective group of Muftees) have raised objections. They then looked at his supposed retractions, analysed it and still; have objections.
This triumphs the individual position of Hazrat (Maulana) Yusuf Motala Saheb (DB) no matter what his Shaykh DID or DID NOT tell him 35-40 years ago. That MAY or MAY NOT have been true 35-40 year ago but DID Allah Ta’ala promise that Maulana Saad will remain in the same positon and in the same spiritual state for the rest of his life?
The ONLY argument people have with regards to Maulana Saad are:
This is FALSE because the argument is not about Hazrat (Maulana) Yusuf Motala Saheb (DB) its about Darul-uloom Deoband and just about every major Darul-uloom in the world versus Maulana Saad (HA).
It is entirely possible that reality or facts are hidden from a singular individual and Allah Ta’ala has not made the matter clear. My mother is convinced that after Brexit nobody will be allowed to land on Heathrow Airport? Is that a fact? Does she stop being my mother? Do we justify what she firmly believes it to the rest of the world?
Then we have blatant inflation of numbers about Dewsbury Ijtema. The Blackburn Ijtema was EASILY 4-5 times bigger then Dewsbury Ijtema IF numbers are to be considered. Every (British) Darul-uloom was represented at Blackburn Ijtema and students served the guests, did it happen at Dewsbury? The Jamaats which went out of Blackburn were MUCH GREATER in numbers then Dewsbury….IF numbers and participation of Ulama and Mashykh is the factor then Dewsbury was a DISMAL FAILURE! If these are the criteria of success then don’t twist facts but look at the facts in their original format since facts do not lie!
Truth is a light which Allah Ta’ala ignites in the heart and NOTHING can change the minds of ego drive biased people. People reject Islam based on ego alone so Maulana Saad issue is nothing BUT as taught to us by HazratJee Maulana Ina’aamul Hasan (RA) wake up in the middle of the night and cry to Allah Ta’ala for guidance and for you to see the light.I know that for some people it is their EGO and they are simply promoting this issue because of EGO and not out of sincerity.
Finally, let’s discuss the issue of upliftment, when you visit the ISNA (mixed gender event) being around 5000 Muslims will give you a boost and you can see review after review and Interview after Interview stating that.
P.S: I am not implying that Maulana Saad or Hazrat (Maulana) Yusuf Motala Saheb (DB) need guidance so DO NOT TWIST MY WORDS! I am saying that it is entirely possible for Allah Ta’ala to not reveal the full facts to a few individuals. Sunnah tells us to have the best of intentions of our elders BUT not blatantly and blindly defend everything they stand for in opposition to clear and manifest facts.
Whenever you are confused about issues, fall into prostration and cry to Allah Ta’ala to open your heart and mind to the truthand not go from one place to another to read more and more. Truth is the divinelight of Allah Ta’ala which comes from Allah to those who have TALAB (genuinedesire). This is the Tableegh which our elders in Nizamudden taught us and notthe Tableegh of today which is done on WhatsApp! HazrajJee (RA) and others taught to keep silent on matters which are not the truth BUT don't defend it and we asked about issues like this again and again and again.
For youngsters! As Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) has instructed that when you have physical ailment you go to the best Doctor then you go to another Doctor and then another Doctor. If your heart and your soul is confused sit down with Ulama and discuss each and every aspect of it and dissect this issue in excoriating detail but seek a cure to your misunderstanding.
THIS IS NOTHING! TOMORROW DAJJAL IS COMING. WHAT WILL YOU DO WHEN CONFUSION IS 100 TIMES MORE? THERE WILL BE ULAMA WHO WILL ENDORSE DAJJAL SO WHAT WILL YOU DO? DEFEND AND FOLLOW DAJJAL?
P.P.S: For the fair minded I am not equating Maulana Saad or Hazrat (Maulana) Yusuf Motala Saheb (DB) of being confused about Dajjal at all, neither am I saying that they will ask you to follow Dajjal, I am making a point. For those whose heart and mind Allah Ta’ala has sealed, do and assume whatever you wish as Allah Ta’ala will counter your evil machniations.
We are close to the emergence of Dajjal so if you are confused about simple matters and CANNOT defeat your ego when your heart and mind has accepted the truth THEN may Allah Ta'ala protect you when Dajjal emerges because matters will be 100 times worse!!!
Discussions about this post is occuring in WhatsApp groups:
Anyone can pivot to "Muadh" instead of the issue but remember, the day is coming when Dajjal will emerge and Fintah will be 100 times worse. Will you be able to blame "Muadh" on the day?
Maulana Saad (HA) is a scholar and we should not insult, disparage or disrespect him personally in anyway. Nevertheless, his error and the position of (global) bodies of scholars on the matter is clear, manifest and unambiguous. If you choose to ignore that and go with Maulana A, Shaykh B, Mufti C with their individual positions it will cost you in the Akhira.
Mufti Zarwali Khan Saheb (HA) is a huge scholar of epic magnitude and knowledge BUT we will NOT follow his opinion on 6 fasts of Shawwal or Strawberry. We will not insult, disparage or disrespect him but we will NOT follow his personal opinion BUT we will follow the opinion of the BODY OF ULAMA.
History of Islam is filled with examples of individuals whom group (or body) of Ulama warned against and some MAJOR ULAMA supported this individual. May Allah Ta’ala have Mercy on all of them (Ameen).
DO NOT play games with your Eemaan. LIVE an upright, honest, truthful and dignifed life.
You will ALWAYS find certain Ulama backing certain positions.
If we begin to defend individual opinions just out of sheer loyalty, we have a problem. Our loyalty is to Allah, His Rasool (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) and ISLAM.
Defend individuals based on your loyalty is to Allah, His Rasool (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) and ISLAM.
I am surprised that nobody has picked up these words by this poster, crazy what this guy is writing:
Many Ulama across the world including Mufti Naeem Saheb and Mufti Zarwali Khan have also spoken out against Darul Uloom Deoband's Fatwa
Nobody except Allah Ta’ala’s Taufeeq can cut through hatred and poison.
I will continue to monitor this thread and will be happy to answer any questions which are not previously address OR newer questions.
So far all the technical details have been answered in great detail about Dr76 including the statements of Hazrat (Maulana) Yusuf Motala Saheb (DB) which are being asked by this poster and others.
www.muftisays.com/forums/55-members-research-group/11351-...
P.S: I am explicitly denying that Maulana Saad (HA) Hazrat (Maulana) Yusuf Motala Saheb (DB) have hatred and poison. My statements (of this nature) are not directed towards them at all. …CLEARLY AND UNAMBIGOUSLY
This cannot be undone and I am sure it will be greatly appreciated.
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