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#916 [Permalink] Posted on 16th December 2019 00:27

15DEC2019: JF-17 Block III Maiden Flight

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Mubarak to all Pakistanees

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#917 [Permalink] Posted on 16th December 2019 02:29
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Bismillah.

I am confused did'nt you post an entire thread on the predictions of Niamatullah Shah Wali , On Sunniforum.

Well would be kind of bizarre if his entire existence is fiction. From his biography to his shrine to his Qasidas.



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#918 [Permalink] Posted on 16th December 2019 05:08
Please read the following predictions :

بعد آں شود چوں شورش در ملک ہند پیدا
فتنہ فساد برپا بر ارض مشرکانہ

(After that, there will occur a turmoil in India, the country of ‘Mushrikeen)

در حین خلفشارے قومے کہ بت پرستاں
“بر کلمہ گویاں جابر از “قہر ہندوانہ

(During that situation of anarchy, the idol worshipers would persecute Muslims, because of their anger of ‘Hinduthva’)

* I could not find any better word for “Qahr e Hinduwana” than the anger of ‘Hindutva’ :(

Is that what we are seeing today ? The predictions are unauthentic or totally fake, I don’t know, but reading those two couplets and watching the situation on the ground in India, it does make some sense....

Please note, it is NOT about 1947, as that had been dealt separately before those couplets in the predictions.
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#919 [Permalink] Posted on 16th December 2019 09:54

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I sure did.

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#920 [Permalink] Posted on 16th December 2019 14:59
Personally i have been very skeptical about the naimatullah predictions and the person itself, its authenticity. I had concluded in my mind as well that it’s a fiction.

However something recently caught my attention regarding this and didn’t get a chance to look deeper into it. Apparently Shah Ismail Shaheed has written a book called Al-Arba'in fi Ahwal-al-Mahdiyin ( refer: description available on Wikipedia)

The book is published 20 years after his death and the publisher added naimatullah’s ode there at the end. And it is said this is the Oldest copy available of the ode. Which kind of makes this the available source???

Now i wonder whether this book was really written by Shah Sahab r.a to begin with? And whether if this ode is a fraud and through this book it has been spread?

This book shouldn’t have been a problem for ulema to trace back to shah sahab , but i am not aware if they have authenticated this as his writing. And then on top of that the publisher appending this ode with it. If Ulema lets suppose are aware of shah sahab’s book as his own, then have they also accepted the Appended ode as authentic?

Would love if someone can unearth this mystery.
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#921 [Permalink] Posted on 16th December 2019 18:17

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyani has used the book to back his (false) claim of prophethood and this book is indeed published by Qadianees and indeed has a section on Naimatullah Shah Wali

archive.org/details/ArbaeenFiAhwaalUlMahdiyyeein

Note the stamps at the end of this book.

Mufti Saeed Ahmed Khan has done a refutation of Naimatullah Shah Wali and his prediction.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUUtB9yx92c

Mufti Saheb's Shaykh was Shaykh Abul Hasan Ali Nadwi (RA) and his students can be reached on +92-321-5162189. Since you are in Pakistan, please make a phone call and ask to be put in touch with Mufti Saheb and they will direct you and then put the question to Mufti Saheb and the questions are as follows:

  1. Is "اربعين في احوال المهدين" correctly ascribed to Shah Ismail Shaheed (RA)?
  2. If so then are you aware of the addendum at the end of Naimatullah Shah Wali and what is your opinion on it?

Mufti Saheb was not well a few weeks so keep that in mind. The reason this question needs to be put Mufti Saeed Khan Saheb is because not only he is thorough Academic but his Shaykh wrote about Shah Ismael Shaheed (RA) and Syed Ahmed Shaheed (RA) in detail so he is aware of the topic.

Let us know the answer too.

Jzk

P.S: Mods, the mobile number is public and on their facebook page so please don't delete it.

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#922 [Permalink] Posted on 16th December 2019 19:35
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Yeah i know Mufti Sahab well. Not at a very personal level, but otherwise. I will reach out to him.

But the links you sent are making it all pretty obvious, i am almost certain this is not authentic.

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#923 [Permalink] Posted on 17th December 2019 08:13
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#924 [Permalink] Posted on 21st December 2019 12:02

21DEC2019: Zaid Zaman Hamid & Fake News

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#925 [Permalink] Posted on 21st December 2019 16:32
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#926 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd January 2020 07:40
Maulana Manzoor Mengal


(Sarcasm Warning) My heartiest congratulations to Maulana Manzoor Mengal Sahab for getting Mufti Tariq Masood Sahab and Maulana Tariq Jameel Sahab in an absolutely worthless, futile, unproductive and uninspiring controversy.
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#927 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd January 2020 08:46
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Alhamdolillah, we are not even aware of that :)

It is a blessing that majority of common people don’t get a chance to know about such : “worthless, futile, unproductive and uninspiring controversies”
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#928 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd January 2020 12:55

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23DEC2019: Challenge from Mufti Mengal (HA)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=D73D-OjBr4g

01JAN2020: Response from Mufti Tariq Masood (HA)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l8kowjEmAA

Those who follow the Akabir of Deoband and NOT the "Deobandi" cult can listen to both and easily arrive at the necessary conclusions, no comments necessary.

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#929 [Permalink] Posted on 9th January 2020 18:30
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#930 [Permalink] Posted on 15th January 2020 18:21
Maulana Manzoor Mengal Again! Oh God! Have Mercy on Us


youtu.be/QPJOrTxQT-0

Someone knowledgeable may translate the video for our English speaking audience.
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