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#151 [Permalink] Posted on 28th December 2017 14:20

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The world that we live in, is heavily documented with the eye of the camera. Never did we fear the watchful eyes of the Lord as much as the camera! It is a shame.

To be honest, if you are out of your four walls, expect any and every disgraceful act of yours to be bolstered on some social media. It will happen sooner or later. 

So the fault then, is not in the tasheer of such act, but the act itself. 

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#152 [Permalink] Posted on 14th February 2018 16:41
It seems now even mazahere uloom shahranpur supports sh saad against darul uloom deobands verdict. A cold war is going between deoband-shahranpur and nadwa.....
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#153 [Permalink] Posted on 14th February 2018 19:19
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(salam)

Do u have any proofs to back that up..

Last known was Madrassah Shahi of Muradabad attesting and acknowledging the latest stand of Darul uloom Deoband on Maulvi saad sahabs rujoo..

As far as i know all the Institutions in India back Deoband's stand on the issue..

Since his deviant ideologies are so clear.. none would support this man..

wa Assalam..
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#154 [Permalink] Posted on 19th February 2018 10:14
Please provide more information on what is the current situation in your country regarding the new world Shura and Amir issue

Correct Information such as the following would be helpful

Country of residence or country you providing information on
Are the Zimidaars of the country following the Shura or Amir and are they unanimous on this
Is there is a difference of opinion in your country and what are the ramifications of this.
If the world Shura is being followed, are Jamaats still being sent to Nizamudin by those following the Shura
Are Jamaats being sent to Bangladash and India
Do you have any information on what is Haji Abdul Wahap Sahabs view on Nizamudin and his view on Jamaats going to Nizamudin
How did your country handle this situation and what mistakes can others learn from?
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#155 [Permalink] Posted on 19th February 2018 15:57

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Please find attached answers to your questions.

Country of residence or country you providing information on

USA (United upon Sunnah, Absolutely)


Are the Zimidaars of the country following the Shura or Amir and are they unanimous on this

Our Zimmidaars are not united on Donald Trump and they miss the previous Ameer (Barack Hussain Obama). There is hope that in the upcoming elections (Nov 2018), the Akabireen will put forth the right candidates who can win. Once we have the congress, we can go ahead to impeach the current Ameer (Donald J. Trump) elect someone who is sincere.


Is there is a difference of opinion in your country and what are the ramifications of this.

O Yes! The situation has become so bad that our children and women are marching on the streets against the Ameer. Make dua!


If the world Shura is being followed, are Jamaats still being sent to Nizamudin by those following the Shura

The World Shura (UN) is not being followed. Its funding has been cut and every day our current Ameer (Donald J. Trump) abuses the world Shura using something called "Twitter". Millions are following his tweets. We think that our our current Ameer (Donald J. Trump) is a manifesation of Dajjal as we see millions are blindly following him!


Are Jamaats being sent to Bangladash and India

Russia!


Do you have any information on what is Haji Abdul Wahap Sahabs view on Nizamudin and his view on Jamaats going to Nizamudin

His views are of sadness and great regret but he says to make Dua because as times are bad. He can offer no solutions but says to stay away from another person named Vilamidir Putin.

We are confused because Vilamidir Putin is welcoming our Jamaats with open arms


How did your country handle this situation and what mistakes can others learn from?

Our country is regretful over their actions and those who supported the current Ameer (Donald J. Trump) and did not support the World Shura (UN) regret their opinion but it is too late

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#156 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2018 06:31
Saad Kandhalwi's bayan in Aurangabad Ijtema

The ijtema was held on 24-26 feb in Aurangabad which was supposed to be state ijtema turned into aalami with people nearing 1 crore in numbers coming from all over India according to reports.

Saad Kandhalwi arrived a day before on 23rd and with the exception of a few and in between speakers, all the bayans from Jummah uptil dua on monday was made by him.

Any person having knowledge of the whole Saad saga will understand the dangerous territory he is driving the jamat into from listening to his speeches in these 4 days.

The hijacking through " Muntakhab Ahaadith "book he is carrying out at the expense of " Fazail e Amal " and "Hayatus Sahaba" has been quoted by dr76 in earlier posts in detail. In his speech he has mentioned several times that every home should have "Muntakhab Ahadith" and that everyone should daily read it.

He has also stated in his speech to read Muntakhab one day and Fazail e Amal one day in masjid.

Does not take much to realise his conspiracy to gradually move out both the books of elders and replace them with Muntakhab which is printed with his name in bold.

The following which he has among masses (who are generally semi literate and many illiterate and all ignorant to his antics and conspiracies ) and for whom their "Hazratji" is no less than an angel is massive and only seen to be believed.

The ulema here are silent against him because they fear that the issue will be disruptive to the people at grass root level and affect the work of tabligh.

But thats clearly short sightedness. With a little insight it is crytal clear that in long term this neglect and being afraid to stand up against the deviancy of an influential personality is going to have severe repercussions which will lead this blessed effort away from the path of Ahle sunnah wal jammat.

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#157 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2018 09:05
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1 crore (10 million) attendees is exaggeration. Tongi or hajj doesnt get anywhere near that
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#158 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2018 09:21
Maybe. Thats the figure people who attended have come up with
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#159 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2018 09:54

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Please insert the title "Maulana" in front of Maulana Saad Saheb (HA)'s name.

I also disagree with him but he is a Maulana and you should not lose sight of that.

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#160 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2018 12:04
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As-salam-alaykum:

Colonel Sahab makes a good point. Maulana Saad Sahab is still an Alim of Deen. And, has the ummah attained the status of ijma regarding his deviancy?

We witnessed similar acrimony earlier also, for example, between the four schools of jurisprudence, and, closer to home when Hadhrat Thanavi differed with Hadhrat Madani on the issue of creation of Pakistan, and when there was a split in Darul Uloom Deoband, Mazahirul Uloom, and Jamiat Ulema e Hind. In all the above, it is clear that Haq was with only one of them, while the other's mistake is attributed to an error of ijtehad. And in all the above cases, we were taught that the one on Haq would reap dual rewards, for his ijtehad and for his being correct, while the one in error would still attain a single reward, for his ijtehad.

Hadhrat Thanavi gave us a criterion to put ourselves at ease in such situations. His simple solution was if there are Ulema e Haq on both sides, then take some time out and spend it in the company of the elders of each group. Then, after this, align yourself with the one that your heart attests to, and hold your tongue against the other.

My two cents.

Was-salam.
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#161 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2018 12:20
May Allah have mercy on us...

This is probably the best of our Deeni efforts at present. May Allah SWT save it and make it even more vibrant than before. Amin
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#162 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2018 13:52
The effort of Tabligh is one of the best work available currently, but some improvement needs to be done for reducing the extreme approaches taken by some workers. In my opinion, below are some points which will help if followed by Tablighi brothers

1) Occasionally read some books related to Tafseer, hadith, history written by our elders. This will help in increasing your understanding of deen.
2) Occasionally Spend some time and listen to Ulema of non-tabligh also.
3) Spend some time in understanding and appreciating other works of Deen. Without this you will think that "This is the only work.."

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#163 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2018 15:14
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I would remove the word "Occasionally"
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#164 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2018 16:52
*Hazrat Maulana sayyad Muhammad Shahid Sahab DB* (hazrat shekh zakariyya rh Ke nawase aur hazrat ji Maulana inaamul Sahab Rh Ke damad)
ki likhi huwi kitab Ke Chand safhat .....

Aankho dekha Hal......is kitab me ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿ‘‡

*Maulana sad ka aik malfooz "is Kam Ke do dushman hai 1)hazrat shekh zakariyya rh 2) hazrat ji Maulana inaamul Hasan Sahab rh*.....al-iyazu billah

*Aur bhi bahut kuch*


*Zaroor padhe sari haqiqat Bayan ki gayi hai.*

This is book written by Maulana Shahid Saharanpuri (grandson of Hazrat Shaykh Zakarriyah and Son-in-Law of Maulana Inaamul Hasan)

One of the Malfooz of Ml Saad "There are are 2 enemies of this effort 1) Hazrat Shaykh 2) Maulana Inaamul Hasan

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#165 [Permalink] Posted on 27th February 2018 19:07
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