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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2016 15:46
AoA,

It has been abt four months that I have been in contact with a shaikh back in Pakistan, and this shaikh has attained multiple khilafat some of the key silsila go back from hzt lahori (rah) via hzt ml ubaidullah anwar (rah) and hzt ghulam rasool (rah), hzt zakariya (rah) via hzt sufi iqbal madani (rah), and also other khilafat which goes back from naqshband line...I can not remember clear as they are not common.

The experience has been good, wherein I have dreamed of shaikh multiple times such as in cases where I kissed his hand, another where I came into his khanqa and asked for his duas etc etc also had other good dreams such as vision of rasoolal Allah (saw)...

Being that I have not done any specifiz zikr of any silsila apart from small wazaif for my specific personal reasons.

Another thing to keep in mind, most of the shaikh's own shaikh are also alive but they are old...

Is it advisable to do bayyat with him after experiencing all this span of few months time?
Because there are other great mashaikh as well such as raipuris, even including his own shaikhs who I can visit and do Islah?

I have also seen the criteria of what a true peer should be like, such as observing sunnah, purdah etc etc

it is a matter of few days time I will be going to visit Pakistan, and I am really unsure if I should take bayyat in his hand, I am also doing istikhara...

What will be feasible advice in this situation?

Jzk

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2016 16:02
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وَ عَلَيكُمُ ٱلسَّلَام وَ رَحمَةُٱللهِ وَ بَرَكَاتُه

Please check out this book.
asic-sa.co.za/images/books/SHARIAT%20AND%20TASAWWUF.pdf

Relevant to your situation I recommend reading from pg 33 (of the pdf, which is labelled pg 32, exclusive of the title page)
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2016 18:06
salaam

why dont you just post his name? that way people can tell you what they think about him.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 18th January 2016 02:57
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 18th January 2016 06:53
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(salam)

Appreciate ur quest to seek a Spiritual Mentor, Masha Allah.

The first thing to understand is why u need a Shaikh.. Question ur own inner self..

If by bayat to a very high Nisbat shaikh (with Many Khilafats) u aspire to fly on a magic carpet or do karamat the next moment the Shaikh sees u.. the Purpose of Bayat is certainly wrong..

Our Motive for Bayat is nothing but Islah - Character Building.... and even Bayat is not mandatory but appreciable..

A Muslih (Mentor/ Shaikh) should be one who has a degree in his field.. who has been in the company of Saliheen and got his Islah done..

The way we attend a Specialist's clinic.. to treat our physical ailments.. The same applies to a Shaikh of Tasawwuf... that we do Taubah.. make resolve to lead our remaining life on the noble Teachings of our beloved Prophet (saw) .. a life of Taqwa..

We keep an eye on our Character.. shortcomings... habits.. dealings with people.. rectify them.. taking guidance from the Shaikh..

And to think that our Islah will only be done by someone like Hazrat Nizamuddin Auliya (rah) (that he is known globally with thousands of followers.. etc) is also a sign of kibr.. That we are such big people.. We only need a doctor who can understand our illness and treat us.. if the one across the street is legit then why fly to London to get the same treatment..

Now a Sick person needs Medicine.. the shaikh prescribes according to the need of the Patient .. and for that Connectivity is needed.. not just a random visit .. Bayat can come later..

So do istikharah.. see if u find connectivity with this Shaikh u mentioned.. and if yes.. then go ahead إن شاء الله ..

May Allah سبحانه وتعالى be with u.. Ameen..

duas..

wa Assalam..





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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 18th January 2016 06:57
i never heard of any such thing in the sunnah...
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 18th January 2016 07:05
An interesting post i received on whatsapp few days back..thought i would share..
By Hazrat Maulana Younus Patel sahab (rah)

QUESTION

I would like to know about Sufism. Is it a part of Islam or is it something which has just been made up by fraudulent people who are marketing it as religion ? What I hear sometimes makes me think this is a “hoax” – a money-making racket. Many talk about shaykhs, peers, taking bay`ah with such people, Islaahun nafs, etc. I would appreciate a correct understanding of the ideology. What is the purpose ?


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Bismihi Ta’ala

Respected Sister in Islam,

Wa-alaykumus Salaam wa-Rahmatullahi wa-Barakaatuhu

1.) “Sufism”, or Tasawwuf / Tariqat is very much a part of Islamic teachings. Shariah is knowledge and Tariqat is acting upon that knowledge. It covers all aspects of Deen, by following in the footsteps of Rasulullah (sallallahu alaihi wasallam), and revolves around the purification of heart and soul, the reformation of the nafs (self / ego), developing intense love for Allah Ta’ala and a connection with Him, such that we submit to Him, with heart, mind, soul and body. The Qur`aan Sharief alludes toTazkiyya and Islaah a number of times.

2.) Unfortunately, many have spoilt the good name of “Sufism” or tasawwuf by introducing actions which are not in conformity with Islamic teachings. Some people have made Sufism appear like another religion, or they have brought into Sufism, the ideas and rites of mysticism from other religions. Moreover, there are many bogus ‘peers’ that are just in it for money. Therefore caution needs to be exercised in choosing a spiritual mentor.

3.) Bay`ah is a practice (Sunnah) of the Prophet (Sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa-Sallam), which has been carried down, through the ages, by our Spiritual Guides.

It is through the barakah (blessings) of Bay`at that a person is able to easily and steadily traverse and progress through the different stages in the spiritual world. The seeker is constantly drawing direction and guidance from the spiritual guide who has proficiency and expertise in the field.

Bay`ah is choosing a spiritual doctor (a Shaykh) for your spiritual ailments. The Shaykh must be one whom you are most compatible with, and whose teachings, you readily accept and follow. Of course, the Shaykh must be on Haq. There are many fraudulent people in the guise of the pious. The Shaykh must be learned, experienced, pious and wise – for such a person must have your best interests at heart.

The objective is Islaah (reformation), and complete Obedience to Allah Ta’ala and Rasulullah (Sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa-Sallam). The mureed (disciple) should therefore inform the Shaykh of his or her spiritual weaknesses – whether it be hasad (jealousy), kibr (pride), riyaa (ostentation), hirs (greed), Hubbud-Dunya (Obsessive love for the world) – or whatever it be, missing out his Salaah due to laziness, casting lustful gazes, listening to music, being involved in an illicit relationship, etc.

The Shaykh, if he is ‘Kaamil’, will not look down upon his mureed when informed of such sicknesses – just as a doctor will not look down upon his patient, because his patient has cancer, or a brain tumuor, etc.

The right of the mureed over the Shaykh is that the Shaykh then makes Islaah of that spiritual malady – thus the Shaykh prescribes some remedy and also makes dua. For the mureed to experience the benefits and curative properties in the Shaykhs treatment and dua, it becomes absolutely necessary to now follow the Shaykh’s advice. This is the mode and manner to restore spiritual health.

As an example : The mureed considers and thinks himself to be pious and great, and better than other people. He looks down upon those who do not do good deeds as he does, who do not dress in the Sunnah libaas like he does or who do not have a beard as he does… He considers himself better and superior, and considers others as sinful, immoral and condemned to hell-fire. This then is ujub (conceit) and takabbur (pride).

He should thus explain his condition by informing his Shaykh : I think of myself as great. I look down upon those who do not do what I do. I consider myself, an accepted servant. I consider my piety to be my achievement and effort. I think of others as evil and despicable. …I don’t keep their company because I consider them as evil, and think of myself as too pure and pious to be with them, that it is below my dignity and honour to sit amongst such people …. etc. etc.

So then the Shaykh will prescribe some suitable remedy – depending on various other aspects of the mureed.

If the mureed has a problem in controlling his anger, then he should inform the Shaykh: I am very temperamental – and I lose my anger when my wife does something wrong, even if it is something small. I sometimes slap or kick in that anger. I swear her and I threaten her with Talaq….

The mureed must spell out his weakness by giving an example of his behaviour.

Just saying that I have anger, pride, hasad is not very helpful to the Shaykh. …What makes you feel that you have pride or hasad ?

The more specific you are in informing of your sickness, the more specific and exact will be the remedy.

4.) In this journey of love, the mureed will experience different spiritual states and conditions. However, this is, as I generally describe, the scenery enroute, as we travel to reach our destination. The scenery, no matter how beautiful, is not the destination. …But this also requires much explanation.


May Allah Ta’ala fill our hearts with His Love and guide us all on the Path of Divine Love, and grant us the crowns of His Friendship. May Allah Ta’ala grant taufeeq of obedience and protect us from anything that is displeasing to Him.

Was-Salaamu alaykum wa-Rahmatullahi wa-Barakaatuhu

(Hazrat Maulana) Yunus Patel sahab (rah)


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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2016 08:15
AoA,

JazakaAllah for those who gave precious advice, I have read the pdf which was sent by br ibn ismail and it came out useful...
and then dr76's posts were also handy to make myself realise the purpose

If I mention the name, no one would recognize in the first place. As he is not famous or known person out there...
it is simply a shaikh within my locality which I had a sudden encounter, personally I have never known him anywhere even on the net

iA the outcome of istikhara have also been good, as usual good dream but I will still remain cautious about it...
and I will keep things updated on my blog wherein I have mentioned how I encountered him etc etc

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2016 08:36
Brother where is your blog?
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2016 11:07
Here under is the blog which I at time to time write and update...
eikchiraaghkisuhbat.wordpress.com

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2016 11:08
The last post had the link...
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2016 15:38
Brother with all due respect you are too much into mystical stuff and dreams. These things happen to some people on the way of sulook but you seem to attaching too much importance to it. Your blog is also interesting but it also shows your obession with such details. I would suggest you don't focus on these things as I have seen many saliks led astray due to this. All the best inshallah.
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2016 16:22

(salam)

May i know why the name of the Shaikh is not mentioned even in the blog..

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2016 18:08
Jzk brother london for giving me advice, I will always try to be cautious now in regards to any experience...
and brother dr76 for privacy reasons I would like to maintain anonymity for now, as I am not even bayyat yet so there is time
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