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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 30th July 2015 10:09
Last night has been nerve wreaking because of the last moment drama unfolding in case of the hanging of Yaqoub Memon.

Inbetween that exhausting roller coaster ride there was a series of posts from semi-official type of American publication called the Foreign Policy. These posts were about Turkey's stand on Kurd and ISIS issues. The headlines were contradictory to one another and one after another.
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 30th July 2015 16:37
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 13th August 2015 04:59
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Turkey is part of NATO.
NATO is actively engaged in war with Muslims.
We heard the news recently that Turkey has joined other NATO countries in bombing Syria.
The pretext certainly is to bomb the Islamic State but howdo any one ensure that civilians will not be killed?
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 13th August 2015 05:22
Frustrated by Erdogan

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Luke Harding’s report (11 August) considerably underplays the extent to which Turkey has sought to reverse Kurdish gains in Syria and Iraq on the pretext of confronting Isis. Far from being embroiled in a two-front war, Turkey has carried out hardly any attacks against Isis and has instead focused on bombing raids on PKK camps in northern Iraq. Almost all the jihadis entering Syria did so via Turkey. There are an estimated 12,000 jihadis. That’s a lot to miss. In 2014, when the al-Qaida affiliate al-Nusra captured Kassab, it was clear they’d been allowed to mobilise from within Turkey. Ankara initially opposed the movement of Iraqi Kurdish peshmerga to lift the siege of Kobani by Isis. So far as Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is concerned, the PKK represents a greater threat to Turkish interests than Isis.

Moreover, ditching the peace process has domestic benefits for Erdoğan. The 2015 electoral success of the Kurdish left party, HDP, left Erdoğan without a mandate. Cracking down on “terrorism” now gives him a chance to target the “terrorist- supporting” HDP. In all of this the west colludes, on the basis that a war on Isis is “promised”. As they were in Iraq in 1991, Kurdish and democratic interests have been sold out to expediency once again.
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Clearly the idiots are frustrated by Erdogan.
In 1991 they had promised the Kurds that they will chop off a portion of Iraq and serve the Kurds their homeland.
Doesn't that sound familiar?
That is balkanization part two. Or simply a continuation of it.
The west divided, secretly, the Ottoman Empire amongst themselves while you still thought that the two world wars were European turmoils.
Once again they have promised rewards to Kurds at the expanse of other Muslims.
They will never think of rewards for British in US.
What about giving few states of US to British? Call it British America.
Then give few US states to the Spaniards. Call it American spain.
Then a state for Portugal, Netherland, France, India, Pakistan.
And a few states to the continent of Africa. Call it American Africa or African America.
And since you have killed nearly all the native Americans one state will be sufficient for them too.
You can call it native India.
Of course you will be terminally offended in case a Muslim country too is demanded.
From US population percentage they will get only half a state.
But America is the new world.
It belongs to the whole world.
Hence at least 12 states of US should go to Muslims.
How about that uncle Sam?
You see this division is an enjoyable task as long as it is done at the expanse of Muslims.
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 14th August 2015 09:10
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shaykh the Quraan has told us they will never accept us and our legitimate demands. What hurts is when our own Muslim rulers and brethren betray us.
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 14th August 2015 11:00
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True.
But did you see the Shashi Tharoor debate at Oxford Union? When you talk they have no option but to listen.
They can deny and pooh-pooh truth only upto a limit.
After that truth takes over.

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 14th August 2015 11:23
I spoke to a kurdish brother recently that I met on a job, even though majority of his family now resides in Turkey. However he had a strong dislike for Erdogan and even went further to say that there is no difference between Daish and the Turks. He didn't like Erdogan either and said a lot of Asians he has met love him but they hardly know anything about him. I said he's somewhat loyal to Islam on the global scene in comparison to other Muslim nations, his reply was Islam teach you to kill your fellow Muslim brother? Is this Islam? He was also quite disgusted with Turkey targeting the Kurds recently and said it was at fault for letting in so many fighters into Syria why didn't it go fight Assad or Daish? Why the Kurds whom all of a sudden are a threat now to national security?

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 14th August 2015 12:08
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Jazakallah for this info.

Since there is this long standing problem between Turkey and kurds therefore we can understand his sentiments.

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 4th July 2018 08:35
I suppose by now we have a near definitive answer to the original question.

RT Erdugan again won the presidential race. He had already acquired more powers earlier. This has not gone down well both the west as well as the so called liberal, democratic, moder, modernist and progressive crowd the world over.

Why? Because he suppressed the nice, rolly-polly, cutie, cudley coup against him.

The forces that hate him might end up doing what they had earlier done to Saddam Husain, , Muammar Qaddhafi and Muhammed Mursi. In the process Istanbul might be taken away from Muslims.

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 12th May 2019 08:05
I have recorded elsewhere that Sheikh Imran Hossein many times gives me goose pimples by his stupidity and his conspiracy theories leave me in the cold.

But there are things in which he has no parallel.

Here is his take on abolition of Khilafah.
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 12th May 2019 10:16
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The ‘recapture’ of Istanbul has become a puzzle for us,because we have somehow assumed turkey will be physically ‘captured’ by kuffar first and therefore become a kafir country.It may still happen that way,but there are other ways Turkey may side with kuffar against ‘the khilafat of Mahdi’ and may then be defeated by the forces of khilafat.

It is possible that Turkey will still be counted amongst ‘Muslim’ countries in those days,majority of its citizens will be muslims by birth,some of them even practicing muslims,their names will be muslims BUT their system,their laws,their ways of life.their political allegiances ,their economic interests and their military alliances will be with kuffar. It is also possible that the ‘the regional headquarters of the enemy forces’ would be based in turkey,hence making them a prime target for the armies of khilafat.

It has happened before in turkey and may happen again....

We have seen a similar phenomenon in Pakistan after 9|11.It is an overwhemingly muslim majority country and the masses had complete sympathies with the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan,but those who ruled the country sided whole heartedly with kuffar and helped bombing the innocent muslims across the border.If the Islamic emirate had the force to retaliate,they could have captured Islamabad after defeating the kuffar....that could have been ‘similar’ to what may happen to ‘Constantinople’ near the end times.
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 12th May 2019 14:19
There is one clear statement in the Hadeeth going against my previous post, that is,mujahideen will be dividing spoils after victory,which they are unlikely to do had they defeated ‘Muslims’...

I don’t have an answer to that...
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 13th May 2019 12:03
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Haven't read rest of the replies yet. However, I will repeat here the comment I made some time ago. Europe will not tolerate an "Islamic Extremist State" among them. Mr.Erdagon is inviting the wrath of the west.
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 13th May 2019 12:33
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True! There is not even a single Muslim country on the face of this planet. I don't know that why the ulema or even the intellectuals are not realizing it. Or maybe they are silent purposefully. There are only secular countries in this world. The first Islamic country to emerge Insha Allah soon will be Islamic Emarate of Afghanistan under the leadership of Afghan Taliban who will implement Shariah. As soon as this happens, the rest of the secular world will then cease to exist once Malhamatul Qubra and Ghazwa e Hind happens.

TALIBAN WILL RULE THE WORLD UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF IMAM MAHDI AND SAYYIDINA EESA IBN E MARIYAM. THE MADRASSAH PEOPLE WILL RULE THE WORLD. THE ASHIQOON WILL RULE THE WORLD. THE AULIA WILL RULE THE WORLD. THE MUJADIDEEN WILL RULE THE WORLD. THE MUJAHIDEEN WILL RULE THE WORLD. THE SIDDIQEEN WILL RULE THE WORLD. THE ABDALS WILL RULE THE WORLD.
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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 13th May 2019 12:51
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